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BREAKING: Former Marine Brandon Raub Just been "Taken" by Feds for Facebook Posts?

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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 07:45 PM
reply to post by squidboy

Proceeding posts included Pentagon 9/11 photos, firefighters discussing explosives in the world trade buildings, American Civil War possibilities... He posts a ton of stuff, that would usually be the norm on ATS. On Facebook though... I have no idea why anyone would post such things on facebook...

Well it shouldn't really matter whether it is posted to ATS or FB... why is one better than the other? Why can I be critical of the Government on ATS but not on FB? Well I can tell you why actually... because FB is not anonymous, they can easily track us down if we write something they don't like. Our name and picture is plastered right there next to everything we write on our "wall" or "timeline" or what ever the hell they call it these days. And now you can see why they are constantly trying to remove anonymity from the internet. They claim if "you don't have anything to hide then why would you need to be anonymous". Well now we god damn know why don't we... because of # like this, because of totalitarian control freaks who can't stand the fact we can question what they do. I have read so many different stories of people getting arrested for something stupid they posted on FB... when are people going to wake up and realize FB is a total intelligence gathering hub. The U.S. Government really is getting out of control, this is slowly reaching the breaking point... if we are so accountable to them why aren't they so accountable to us? WAKE UP.
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 07:49 PM
reply to post by seeker1963

Thankyou...people like that have a self-righteous opinion about most things... Take the part where they condemn the guy w/out knowing ALL THE FACTS!! To me it's like a sense of bullying. As you said..3 mins to post their already bloated opinion w/out the facts.

Atser's I could do w/ out!

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 07:56 PM
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

I agree. I remember when the Internet was a baby....we started out wanting to be anonymous. That's why we came up w/ a different on-line name. I remember 20yrs ago almost when people like me were trying to warn the Government/ Feds were trying to take away our rights on-line...regulate their will on-line.

I also remember before FB came out and we were trying to warn that it was a government operated site! We warned about privacy and how they wanted to gain intell from user's.

The best way to stop all the FB crap....delete your account. It's already came out about face recognition software for FB. They claim it's for advertising....hahahahahahahahaha

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:00 PM
You guys act like being able to be detained in a psych ward is something new. If someone reports you are making threats against yourself or others, the police have to check it out, or they could be held accountable if you go shoot up a bus.

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:01 PM
reply to post by Jakal26
" he looked a bit "deranged" "
only to mention it was 07:30 AM.., i think they picked him right out of his bed

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Welcome to National Socialist States of America the 4e REICH!!!
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:15 PM

Originally posted by hadriana
it was his note that was of concern as I understand it, not his posts really.

did everyone see that note?

What concerned me was that he did seem potentially psychotic in that note - the talk of machine hearts and they are putting computer chips in our brains raised some red flags.

Yes I just took the time to read it. And I must say it is 100% fact and truth. The part about men with machine hearts is clearly a reference to the famous Charlie Chaplin speech. He makes many references to that speech actually: "They fear human progress", "This life can be free and beautiful", "There are enough resources on this earth to feed everyone". His words are far from insane, they are the cold hard truth of reality, and you would hardly claim them to be insane were you to hear them spoken by Charlie Chaplin. He didn't say anything about putting chips in our brain, he just said "They want to put computer chips in you", and that is 100% true, they already have the RDIF chips being manufactured and several hundred people voluntarily have those chips planted under their skin. It is quite obvious to see the psychopaths in control are going to eventually require all people to be implanted with these chips, it is a very common conspiracy theory actually and there's a lot of evidence to suggest it is true, and it's certainly not a postulate which would indicate any sign of insanity.

He is also completely correct about the Federal Reserve and the dismantling of the constitution. That note is a brilliant piece of writing actually, a very insightful and intelligent piece of writing clearly written by a man who understands what is happening to the United States. If such a note were posted onto ATS it would receive countless flags and stars, especially if we were aware that it was written by a Marine veteran. I suggest you really take a hard look at your reasoning and logic if you believe any part of that note indicates any sign of insanity. I would argue that people who deny the facts he is stating, people who wish to label him crazy and insane for writing such things, are in fact the insane and delusional people who refuse to acknowledge the true state of reality.
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:18 PM

Originally posted by RealSpoke
You guys act like being able to be detained in a psych ward is something new. If someone reports you are making threats against yourself or others, the police have to check it out, or they could be held accountable if you go shoot up a bus.

1. Being detained to a psych ward for making certain comments on Facebook is certainly something new.
2. There is no indication he wrote anything threatening towards others or himself.
3. They didn't just "check it out", they arrested him without just cause. What law did he break?

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:19 PM
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

What's the difference. One I can think of it's easier to find out who are you on FB rather than ATS. Not impossible, but clearly the harder route verse reading your profile

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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:24 PM
And for those people who can't see the note we are talking about because they don't have a FB account, here is the note in question:

America has lost itself. We have lost who we truly are. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. This is the land of Thomas Jefferson. This is the land of Benjamin Franklin. This is the land of Fredrick Douglas. This is the land of Smedley Butler. This is the land John F. Kennedy. This is the land of Martin Luther King. This is the land where the cowboy wins. This is the land where you can start from the bottom and get to the top. This is the land where regardless of you race and ethnicity you can suceed and build a better life for you and your family. This is the land where every race coexists peacefully. This is the land where justice wins. This is the land where liberty dwells. This is the land where freedom reigns. This is the land where we help the poor, and people help eachother. This is land where people beat racism.

The federal reserve is wrong. They have designed a system based off of gread and fear. They designed a system to crush the middle class between taxes and inflation. This is wrong, and it is unjust. It is wrong.

We have allowed ourselves to be devieced and seduced by the powers of the printing press. It is not a good system. It discourages saving: the foundation for all stable economic activity. The federal reserve is artificially manipulating interests rates and creating phony economic data. This thing has decieved our entire nation.

They created it 1913. They also created the income tax in 1913. They encouraged the growth of debt so they can tax you on it. There is interest on the debt. Your government is in bed with these people. They want to enslave you to the government so that they can control every aspect of your lives. It is an empire based on lies. They operate of greed and fear.

There is a better way. It's called freedom. Freedom is called a lot of things. But there is a true meaning. It means very simply that you have the right to do whatever you want as long as you are not infringing on the feedoms of other people.

I firmly believe that God set America apart from the other nations of the world. He saved a place where people could come to to escape bad systems of goverment. This system we have created works. It really works.

There is evil going on all around the world. The United States was meant to lead the charge against injustice, but through our example not our force. People do not respond to having liberty and freedom forced on them.

Men and Women follow courage. They follow leadership, and courage. Our example has paved the way for people all around the world to change their forms of goverment.

Force is not the way because liberty is a powerful concept. The idea that men can govern themselves is the basis for every just form of government.

We can govern ourselves. We do not need to be governed by men who want to install a one world banking system. These men have machine hearts. Machine and unnatural hearts. They have blocked out the possibility of a better world. They fear human progress. They have monopolies on everything.

This life can be free and beautiful. There are enough resources on this earth to support the world's population. There are enough resources on this earth to feed everyone. There is enough land for everyone to own their own land and farm, and produce their own energy.

These people have been hiding technology. There are ways to create power easily. There is technology that can provide free cheap power for everyone. There are farming techniques that can feed the entire world.

They are controlling your media. They have dumbed you down through your school systems. They have systematically dismantled the constitution. It is in rags.

The bill of rights is being systematically dismantled. Men have spilled their blood for those rights.

Your sons and daughters, your brothers and sisters, and Americas best young men and women are loosing their limbs. They are loosing their lives. They are loosing the hearts. They do not know why they are fighting. They are killing. And they do not know why.

They have done some extroadinary acts. Their deeds go before them. But these wars are lies. They are lies. They decieved our entire nation with terrorism. They have gotten us to hand them our rights. Our Rights! Men died for those rights!

September Eleventh was an inside job. They blew up a third building in broad daylight. Building 7.

Your leaders betrayed you.

You elected an aristocracy. They are beholden to special interests. They were brainwashed through the Council on Foreign Relations. Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one world banking system. They want to put computer chips in you.

These men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate facism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic.


posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:31 PM
He did sign the 911 petition.

But if the Secret Service was there when he was arrested I would say it has to do with the gold and silver coins he was selling in a pyramid scheme.
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:51 PM

Originally posted by JBA2848
He did sign the 911 petition.

But if the Secret Service was there when he was arrested I would say it has to do with the gold and silver coins he was selling in a pyramid scheme.
edit on 17-8-2012 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)

So? What, are they going to arrest all the architects and engineers at AE911 now too?

And no, it wasn't that at all, cause otherwise that's what the FBI would have told his mother. It was for specifically making supposedly "terroristic" threats. Now stating that "I am going to start a revolution," and "I'm tired of waiting" is enough to get you hauled off to mental institution. Sure glad they didn't haul off George Washington for that- though they tried.

The bottom line is unless they have actionable evidence that he was making a move towards a violent act, when his mother has clearly stated that he has never been violent, then this is total BS.
And he's being used as an example of what the Fourth Reich will do to any dissenting veterans. To send a message. Obama did it with Terry Lakin. And now they're doing it to Raub. While the "brothers" do nothing but yap.

Nope, it won't EVER be "time." Don't kid yourselves. This country is screwed. Cause it was "time" to defend against domestic enemies long ago. LONG ago. And instead they defended lies and propaganda. And still are, all just "doing their jobs."

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:51 PM
Many of you are being awefully placid about this.

I've said time and time again,

You are at civil war! Its no good sitting there waiting for some "spark" or event, the longer you wait to accept the fact, they more they are creeping in around you, while you let them sit there and sign your rights away with new bills!

He was targeted because he's part of an organized resistance.
Unite in numbers.
Its already begun.

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:17 PM
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

You don't know what he was detained for, nor do you know he didn't threaten anyone.

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:21 PM
For extra emphasis, where do you see us in 10 years?!?

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:22 PM
I am saddened that most who have posted a response to this are just simply blind to the fact that unfortunately, this guy IS a threat.

If you read his posts dating back to July, it is clear that he was about to do "Something."

The Feds, CIA, FBI, and DHS all have word tracking capabilities in every bit of data that transmits throughout the web. They look for key words, combinations of key words, timing of certain key words, etc. This specialized software, for scanning all data on the net, was implemented by the Clinton Administration. I am drawing a blank to its name, though. It was like Condor, Falcon, or some other bird...I just am unable to remember its name. Basically, everything you email, post, or speak via wire / wireless can be heard and translated and then analyzed.

Write the word "OBAMA" and you are going to get flagged and looked at. Sorry, that is the plain truth of it.

Combine that word with other words, like "Revolution" and you are now twice likely to get looked at.

The NSA, for example, listens to every voice conversation and pulls out patterns of speech, and has an algorithm for speech recognition.

Yes, this guy has a 1st and 4th amendment right. I am not disputing that.

But he was either PURPOSELY seeding his posts to get noticed, or was simply just plain old stupid.

I think there is enough evidence to dictate that he was not stupid.

So the other statement must be true. He wanted to get noticed, and that he did.

He was a "bomb" waiting to go off. Plain and simple. Being that he is in a psych ward is the best place for him, IMHO.

He was a danger to someone. He would not certainly pull off a "revolution" without violence. Sorry, he just doesn't have that type of connection.

Do I feel bad for him? You bet. Did the authorities cross the line? NOPE.

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:22 PM

Originally posted by judydawg
Everyone needs to see the movie Section 8. It is what I think about on every post like this one of these post. John Travolta is in this movie must see. "Section 8"

You could have given the actual name of the movie!
Here I am searching all over for "Section 8" , finding nothing but rubbish..
and discover the movie is not even called section 8!

The title is "Basic". lol

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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:22 PM
reply to post by TokiTheDestroyer

Wow my town on ats in the first week I registered. I don't know if I should smile or be ashamed. Well at least they didn't shoot him that's a plus. And I'm kinda sure I use to live in that neighborhood crazy huh.

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Gatorman3
I don't condone the arrest in any way but this being a quote from one of his posts on FB may be the straw that broke the camels back, so they decided to move in:

"Sharpen up my axe; I'm here to sever heads." in combination with"Do you know why the American people will win the civil war that is coming? Because we are Americans."and"I'm starting the Revolution. I'm done waiting."

I copied this from YT. IT's one of the comments below the video.

"Pettyofficer30, what threats were made? Does everyone realizs the "axe" comment on brandon's fb were mudic lyrics from a song called, "bring me down"....yeah, didn't think so! Stop assuming and lets unite not divide"
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:24 PM
reply to post by TrueAmerican

His pyramid scheme seems to tie into his diferent rants he does. A rant the world is going to end buy gold here some that im selling. Elan Pfalzgraf is tied into this gold scheme and is also a fraud investigator. Seems strange to me.

Elan Pfalzgraf's Summary
I am a mortgage underwriter (DE) with seven years experience in underwriting. I have worked for Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Freddie Mac.

I have experience with conventional, manual underwriting, DU, LP, and even loan forensics and fraud investigation. I worked on Non-performing loans with Freddie Mac - analysis and fraud determination on previously purchased non-performing loans.


Executive Numis Network (Self-employed)
Self-Employed; 51-200 employees; Marketing and Advertising industry

January 2010 – Present (2 years 8 months) Riverton, UT

Also another person tied to this gold pyramid scheme seems to have started erasing his data.

Kevin D Stroud

Seems like there is something going on with the gold and silver coin pyramid scheme.

posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 09:29 PM
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

I have read his posts, I just read his "note" I see nolthing in any of them other than the fact he is a easy target to further push their anti Veteran agenda. I don't necessari?y agree with all he said, but I do agree with most of it whole heartedly.

We do need to out these rats in office, including the POTUS. He is a worth less piece of....what's that stuff that falls from your posterior? I agree with most od his charges.

Our president has intentionally ruined the lives on many here at home with his croney capitalism, he does support a known. Terrorist, and proud to admit it mill aires, he has close ties to many types of revoluting people, every member of his cabnet are guilty of many crimes that would find us regular joes in jail. Millions in tax eveasion for many years, voter suppression,justice department giving passes to many illegal activities, lying , cheating, stealing, ....god the liist is too big, I am not writing it all out, you guys already know.

Not to mention how our murdering POS...I mean POTUS, FLAT OUT MURDER, 2 americans without trial or any evidence presented at all! He simply pointed and said terrorist kill him! Even though, the same man was on our payroll for decades.

This entire .gov needs the be arrested tried and punished( some with life imprisonment, others with the death penalty)

Not to mention the fact they flat out admit they are imprisoning Americans witbout charge or trial for a unlimited amount of time.

I feel I have no choice but to believe the worst, that is all they show us, as the blatantly flaunt their disdain for the law right in front of our face, but we better follow it or else.

My question is or else what? I for one hope they try, I will enjoy watching the videos of their unfortunate demise at the hands of those they tried to trample yers from now at the old folks home.

This is AMERICA!! We will suffer no tyrants, so if they were smart they should stop now before they push to many to far, and find out the hard way why so many own and continue to purchase so many guns.

I personally only own a few, and don't keep them at home, as my wife doesn't appreciate them around the kids, so I respect her wishes and keep them away.

Having said all that, does anyone wander why so many keep snapping? I can tell you why. Our life is a lie and some can't live a lie, so they do their part to make a dent if possible in the facade pulled over mosts eyes. They are caged animals that have been given no choice but to strike out, mostly at the wrong people, but just like a trapped animal they only know they have no choice left but to fight back in anny way possible.
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