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Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by groingrinder
You have a point - but that coin has an unfortunate other side...
If you don't have insurance you'll get your habeas corpus back way too quickly and not get the care you need.
~Heff
Originally posted by MDDoxs
Originally posted by jtap66
He was arrested for "Patriotic" posts? Come on.
I'd bet dollars to donuts his "patriotism" involved threatening the life of our President, or other politicians.
One man's illegal terroristic threats are another man's patriotism.
Seems probable and with the new bills declaring anyone can be arrested and detained without just cause because there is a belief he is a threat to national security....No one is safe, not even the Vets
edit on 17-8-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
If we have young men and women in our military that KNOW that Our Government is doing wrong and Says that they will Fight against any government that wishes to harass, spy on, TAX TO DEATH,, and of course when you are spent of usefulness,, KILL YOU,, then I SAY,, DAMN RIGHT. We need more young and able men and women to wake up an help regain control of a Monster that is eating us all ALIVE.
We are told to stay in our place. We are Forced to make a line, stay in line,, don't rock the boat,, and of course,, NEVER EVER GO UP AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT,, they have the BIG GUNS.
Well,, if some of us SEE that the current system is Slanted, crooked, corrupt and holding us ALL UNDER WATER,, if not on Waterboards or with hovering Drones over our Homes,, and SAYS ENOUGH,, I am with them all the way.
Are we Not HUMAN FIRST!! WE Have certain HUMAN RIGHTS,, and are born with them,, either if you believe God bestows them or not,, we could all agree on that,, correct?
In America,, well the story is more difficult because Now so many have different views of what Our Government is supposed to be, well it might be time for another Continental Congress to decide which way America is to go, but as I see it,, They KNOW we are getting to this point.
They are preparing to fight against AMERICANS by Pitting Americans against each other,, weather it is black against white, white against brown, straight against gay, or Rich against the poor,
They Want Us to HATE OURSELVES for Our Diversity and that is the real point.
It makes their job so easy.
Because this young man, now will already be painted,, either as another 'white supremist' or homegrown terrorist who thinks they are fighting their part of the Tribulation it will not matter,,, they will soak him in dirt to appease at least a portion of Americans who will accept what the Government does as Just and done in Accordance of LAW.
This is the real sad part of this,, how we will be duped into hating this young man,, and others who will come after him,, because it is just a News Blip that is interrupting our ability to watch CSI uninterrupted!!! We Know It is FUTILE because they Have SHOWN US ON TV it is FUTILE.
They want that sense of helplessness and hopelessness to do anything diminished and push out of ordinary Americans minds.
I don't really know enough about this case yet,, so I am still holding myself in reserve,, but I stand by my comments even if he turns out to be a nutjob,, because that is what they WANT,, us to think all things such as this ONE MAN REVOLUTION is Not the way to go,,
instead,, make sure you vote,,
(For One of Only Two, who they have Handpicked for you to 'consume')
make sure you pay your taxes
(Or they will come and take everything you have worked your whole life ,,,AWAY,, and toss you in jail to boot)
Let ,the ''professionals' ''protect'' you,, you don't need that gun,
(doesn't matter anyway,,, we will get yours,, and we have the BIG GUNS)
and so on and so on.
This Might Be OUR LAST CHANCE TO DO THIS AS BLOODLESSLY AS POSSIBLE
so,,, if you do Vote,,
WRITE IN A RADICAL,,,, that is what we need right now,,,
A Radical move away from this Corporate Owned and Elite Government of the Corporations, By the Corporations and for the Military Industrial Complex.
But,, unfortunately,,
I KNOW MOST OF YOU WILL DO NOTHING.
too scared.
Originally posted by jtap66
One man's illegal terroristic threats are another man's patriotism.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Howard Zinn
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Is there anyone here who is afraid of calling out the American government for what it's done wrong, and is still doing wrong?
Is anyone here afraid to stand up for their rights, and the rights of future generations? Is anyone afraid to take their place in a revolution if need be?
This is a serious question. Answer honestly, if you would.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
If we have young men and women in our military that KNOW that Our Government is doing wrong and Says that they will Fight against any government that wishes to harass, spy on, TAX TO DEATH,, and of course when you are spent of usefulness,, KILL YOU,, then I SAY,, DAMN RIGHT. We need more young and able men and women to wake up an help regain control of a Monster that is eating us all ALIVE.
We are told to stay in our place. We are Forced to make a line, stay in line,, don't rock the boat,, and of course,, NEVER EVER GO UP AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT,, they have the BIG GUNS.
Well,, if some of us SEE that the current system is Slanted, crooked, corrupt and holding us ALL UNDER WATER,, if not on Waterboards or with hovering Drones over our Homes,, and SAYS ENOUGH,, I am with them all the way.
Are we Not HUMAN FIRST!! WE Have certain HUMAN RIGHTS,, and are born with them,, either if you believe God bestows them or not,, we could all agree on that,, correct?
In America,, well the story is more difficult because Now so many have different views of what Our Government is supposed to be, well it might be time for another Continental Congress to decide which way America is to go, but as I see it,, They KNOW we are getting to this point.
They are preparing to fight against AMERICANS by Pitting Americans against each other,, weather it is black against white, white against brown, straight against gay, or Rich against the poor,
They Want Us to HATE OURSELVES for Our Diversity and that is the real point.
It makes their job so easy.
Because this young man, now will already be painted,, either as another 'white supremist' or homegrown terrorist who thinks they are fighting their part of the Tribulation it will not matter,,, they will soak him in dirt to appease at least a portion of Americans who will accept what the Government does as Just and done in Accordance of LAW.
This is the real sad part of this,, how we will be duped into hating this young man,, and others who will come after him,, because it is just a News Blip that is interrupting our ability to watch CSI uninterrupted!!! We Know It is FUTILE because they Have SHOWN US ON TV it is FUTILE.
They want that sense of helplessness and hopelessness to do anything diminished and push out of ordinary Americans minds.
I don't really know enough about this case yet,, so I am still holding myself in reserve,, but I stand by my comments even if he turns out to be a nutjob,, because that is what they WANT,, us to think all things such as this ONE MAN REVOLUTION is Not the way to go,,
instead,, make sure you vote,,
(For One of Only Two, who they have Handpicked for you to 'consume')
make sure you pay your taxes
(Or they will come and take everything you have worked your whole life ,,,AWAY,, and toss you in jail to boot)
Let ,the ''professionals' ''protect'' you,, you don't need that gun,
(doesn't matter anyway,,, we will get yours,, and we have the BIG GUNS)
and so on and so on.
This Might Be OUR LAST CHANCE TO DO THIS AS BLOODLESSLY AS POSSIBLE
so,,, if you do Vote,,
WRITE IN A RADICAL,,,, that is what we need right now,,,
A Radical move away from this Corporate Owned and Elite Government of the Corporations, By the Corporations and for the Military Industrial Complex.
But,, unfortunately,,
I KNOW MOST OF YOU WILL DO NOTHING.
too scared.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Is there anyone here who is afraid of calling out the American government for what it's done wrong, and is still doing wrong?
Is anyone here afraid to stand up for their rights, and the rights of future generations? Is anyone afraid to take their place in a revolution if need be?
This is a serious question. Answer honestly, if you would.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
reply to post by phantomjack
It would not take long at all if everyone quit Paying these bastards anymore money,,(YES
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Maybe they are using that new TW software in conjunction and they feel that between his patriotic postings and the TW software they can guess his pre-crime is to not agree with a certain faction any longer.
i’m not going to be pretend to have any facts or knowledge regarding this man’s arrest or look to take sides at the moment,but here are a few of his recent posts on FB that could potentially be read as threats by authority figures:
1) I feel like I am standing at a great crossroads. As if a storm of destiny is about to pick me up and take me to fight a great battle. A battle I could have never imagined existed. 7/24/12
2) We MUST rise up and take our country back. 7/30/12
3) I am standing against a great evil. I will do it all by myself if I have to. 8/4/12
5) This is the part where I tell the Federal Government to go # itself. This is the part where I tell Generals, training our young men to fight Americans, I am coming for you. The Veterans will be with me. 8/9/12
6) I’m starting the Revolution. I’m done waiting. 8/10/12
7) Sharpen up my axe; I’m here to sever heads. 8/13/12
8) The Revolution will come for me. Men will be at my door soon to pick me up to lead it. 8/14/12
9) The Revolution is here. And I will lead it. 8/14/12
a few FB screen shots here:
dont-tread-on.me...
we don’t know what kind of dialogue or messages, if any, that may have been passed between parties posing as liberty minded people that could have raised some red flags or have contained words that fell on the list of DHS ‘monitored key words’ that could have warranted an arrest.
list found here:
dont-tread-on.me...
Link
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Gosh, it is like it is getting to the point where a true patriot cant rant on facebook about breaking the law and attacking politicians without getting arrested. George Washington warned us about this!
sarc