To the abductees

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by jaws1975

 

I'm not doubting that NASA are sometimes economical with the truth but they have expanded our knowledge of the Solar system and Universe and given us real verifiable information .... unlike Darryl Anka .

edit on 15-8-2012 by gortex because: Edit to add

Your right, and you may want to stay away from esoteric material then. Isn't it an exercise in futility to be constantly debating something that you won't even acknowledge to have merit? Surely you know that the type of physical evidence you look for will be in short supply in this specific area.

reply to post by jaws1975

Surely you know that the type of physical evidence you look for will be in short supply in this specific area.

And that's the problem , anyone can make claims but without some evidence to back them up they mean nothing and can be considered figments of his imagination at best , or more likely a cynical money making scheme using social media to spread his message to a target audience .
How are the claims of Darryl Anka anymore believable than this guys ?

reply to post by gortex


That's a fair point, I guess a message either resonates with you or it doesn't. As a side note, I have appreciated your contributions in the aliens and ufo forum. I don't alway's agree with you, but you have made me see the light on many a ufo video....so I thank you for that, you are a constructive debater, unlike another poster on this thread.

Originally posted by kauskau
can´t you sense his love? his integrativeness? his genius? His flow? his intuitive way of saying complex things in a simple way? Cant you sense that a lie can not flow like this for more than 4 minutes?

your senses must be destroyed...

Is anyone here who is awaken and can sense his buddha nature?

I post on that very subject alot. Though its not just being able to perceive more, for you still only exist in this set of limited time clips, in this universe for your earth time journey.

But there are infinite universes and beyonds, and you exist simultaneously on all these different timelines, all at once. And you can become aware of that as well as what you're not picking up here. But its not just a frequency, but an actual coding in your body suit, that sets your time and the limits you see. Those 2 dna strands for example.

While I think people should be careful on giving permissions and using imagination to picture how their contact may have occurred, until they are right in front of us.

I don't feel anything negative in or around him.

And yet this very same information was shared by ET_MAN as well, more or less.

Time is a really interesting subject by the way, and if you are conscious during an experience where it, and your realm/channel changes, its very difficult for the human body to adjust even in remembering it afterwards.

Had an experience with a time/channel switch, just recently, driving on the freeway at 100 km/hr. First of all, I know that they can do a lot. My brother and a fellow employee, were driving long distance for produce for the store, on a well known route. They saw a craft dart behind a cloud. Then a couple seconds later out the other side and sharp angle up and away. But, that "couple seconds" was a 2 hour shift, from 3 30 to 5 30 and in addition, the truck was roughly 2 hours ahead on the road. They both experienced this.

Now, for me, I don't know this area, but am aware of the interesting mountains, and what I call "markers", that signify bases, and old old ones, to me, this is mountains that have uplifted from a previous age, and in the native legends they have hot earth and mountain raising. A kind of sphynx like shape on a mountain top not to far away, 20 minutes up the freeway, that is not only raised, but angled back as if a thrust up and backwards occurred. It looks like a sculpture. Not a lion. Its dog heads I see alot, so Sirius?

Anyway, this is but one cycle of human, with only 2 strands of dna at that.

I was noticing an odd cloud. It was symmetrical and didn't look like a cloud. It is hard to describe but, it had this huge round ball like center, sort of planetoid shape, and then 3 or 4 equally spaced, perfectly symmetrical, starfish type arms, but they were long and thin and had a bend in them, literally a kind of star, didn't really look like a swastika,and it was big.

Suddenly, time changed, it felt like expanding as if an elastic band stretched and I said, there is a creek and moment later we went over a bridge only I was floating up the creek, and inbetween the hills, there was this valley, and it was all natural, a different realm, no pavement, no pollution, I knew a base was there, but felt as if floating, could sense as if I knew the whole thing, then the elastic band returned me to the driving. At 100 km/hr on the freeway.

And I want my memories back. And why?

Originally posted by kauskau
can´t you sense his love? his integrativeness? his genius? His flow? his intuitive way of saying complex things in a simple way? Cant you sense that a lie can not flow like this for more than 4 minutes?

your senses must be destroyed...

Is anyone here who is awaken and can sense his buddha nature?

I'm all for believing in whatever you want but there has to be a time when you STOP the MADNESS.

Can you feel his love?


Or how about his?


Maybe their love too?


And lets not forget him...I'm sure he's got a lot of love to give for the right amount... but he's dead


You're not in N. America and you're probably a little too young anyway to know who these people are so I'll fill you in. They are TV evangelists and they make millions and millions more than Bashar does. Why do you say? Because they can talk and talk and talk for more than 4 minutes at a time for years and years and years. They get pretty good at it after a while.

Care to know what makes these people so special? They have been spreading the word of God for decades. But that's not all. They have all been involved in some sort of scandal.

Let's start with the first one. Swaggart.

Jimmy Lee Swaggart, 52, was the charismatic maestro of high-energy salvation. In the course of each sermon, the fired-up preacher would rant, weep, thrust his Bible high in the air and strut the stage this way and that, whipping his followers and himself to a devotional frenzy. An acute businessman as well as a spellbinding performer, he built an electronic empire with hundreds of millions of viewers worldwide and an income from contributions of $150 million a year.

He made a booboo and bought a prostitute, a few times. So he does a little cry on tv and begs for everyone to forgive him.

Next we have Oral Roberts

In 1977, Roberts claimed to have had a vision from a 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to build City of Faith Medical and Research Center, and the hospital would be a success.[30][31][32] In 1980, Roberts said he had a vision which encouraged him to continue the construction of his City of Faith Medical and Research Center in Oklahoma, which opened in 1981.

Later in '87 Roberts does this...

Roberts announced to a television audience that unless he raised $8 million by that March, God would "call him home." [37][38] Some were fearful that he was referring to suicide, given the impassioned pleas and tears that accompanied his statement. He raised $9.1 million.

Then we have Jim and Tammy Bakker, who could forget??

PTL's fund raising activities between 1984–1987 underwent scrutiny by The Charlotte Observer newspaper, eventually leading to criminal charges against Jim Bakker. From 1984 to 1987, Bakker and his PTL associates sold $1,000 "lifetime memberships", which entitled buyers to a three-night stay annually at a luxury hotel at Heritage USA. According to the prosecution at Bakker's later fraud trial, tens of thousands of memberships had been sold, but only one 500-room hotel was ever completed. Bakker "sold" more "exclusive partnerships" than could be accommodated, while raising more than twice the money needed to build the actual hotel. A good deal of the money went into Heritage USA's operating expenses, and Bakker kept $3.4 million in bonuses for himself. A $279,000 payoff for the silence of Jessica Hahn, a staff secretary at the church, was paid with PTL's funds to Hahn through Bakker associate Roe Messner, who later married Tammy Fay Bakker.

Not to mention all the sexual scandals related to his debauchery.

And finally, Jerry Falwell.

When officials searched Falwell’s home, they found not only homemade pornographic videos in Falwell's video cabinet, but they also discovered several pornographic movies saved on Falwell’s computer. According to officials, the content of the videos ranged from everything including, sexual acts performed on animals to “underage boys

BTW, Jerry Falwell took over after Bakker's world collapsed around him.

"So what" you ask. "What do these people have in common with Bashar"? The answer is simple. They are all great talkers and collect millions from people who never question their integrity. But the problem is, they have no integrity. They will

Rob You Blind

.

"Ok ok", you say, but he doesn't profess to be talking the word of god and it's ok if he breaks a few commandments now and then. No, but he does claim to be talking to an alien so the commandment "thou shall not steal" doesn't apply to him. Seems like a pretty safe religion to be peddling.

My advice to you would be to stop spending anymore money on this guy immediately!! Fraud is huge business.

reply to post by gortex


Oh brother.
2nd

reply to post by FlySolo


Thanks for the rehash of fraudulent televangelist of yesteryear, but I'm still waiting to see the scandal that involves Bashar!

The guy doesn't sell fear porn, he has never had a negative thing to say, to the best of my knowledge there is no failed predictions (cause he doesn't really make predictions), 99% of his fan base has learned everything they know about Bashar for free, I really don't understand what the issue is with Bashar. Make the world a better place, go after the real bad guys out there.

reply to post by FlySolo


Compared to Orrel Roberts or whatever tv evangelist that is, what this guy has to say is Real and Interesting. If you take that information into meditation and ask for answers, for a few nights and start writing down your dreams or paying attention you might just get shocked when your Soul/HS/Spirit answers.

Because seeking really really really gets results.

By the way, if I had to choose which one to attend, this guy wins out over any of the others.

Even though I cannot verify this, just don't feel anything negative in him except for a certain flash on greys around him. But nothing negative.

Not so with the one in your photo by the way, I do sense negative there.

reply to post by Unity_99


If what this guy says resonates with you, then why does he need to personify himself as as Bashar? Just be himself. The Bashar thing is just a gimmick like a stage prop for his act. Just like those evangelists when they use god. Be honest, how would you feel about him if he was exposed as a fraud? Does the message still ring true? Then perhaps it's because his message has nothing to do with Bashar.

reply to post by FlySolo


For all I know about the guy, he could be one of those I suspect is sent out of black operations to reveal some of the truth, for it seems they have to put the truth out and make the prophecy come true, all things will be revealed. Or some such thing. But I flashed on real greys connected to him so suspect he is getting some truth out, above and beyond his job, if he is on assignment.

However the evangelists are liars and thugs.

This guy isn't really lying, he is giving out of the box thinking and has nothing negative feeling about him. He is a likeable human being.

So yes, I prefer listening, FOR FREE, to him, versus the example you gave.

reply to post by Unity_99


But that's just it. He's managed to ride the coat-tails of new age thinking since the 80's. Only difference is, he hasn't pigeon-holed himself like the others to do no wrong. Everything he says as been the new age mantra for years so all of what he says is the general feeling among new agers anyway. If he wanted, he could drop the act and just speak normally. Problem is, he's gained notoriety from the act so in a way I guess he did pigeon-hole himself.

The "happy vibe" you get from him is no different than the "love vibe" all those millions of tv viewers and attendees get from those evangelists. I certainly don't reciprocate the same feeling you have for the guy. I get the "you're a sucker" vibe. No disrespect.

I've looked through the material and the OP is a total hoax.

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

Originally posted by kauskau
can´t you sense his love? his integrativeness? his genius? His flow? his intuitive way of saying complex things in a simple way? Cant you sense that a lie can not flow like this for more than 4 minutes?

your senses must be destroyed...

Is anyone here who is awaken and can sense his buddha nature?

Just reading what you posted here, the only thing I sense is that you have been duped. ah....did the buddah charge money to channel aliens? Seriously? From history, who else had a way with words? Hitler maybe? You do understand people get taken in all the time every day....but not you and this guy is for real?

YOu will not be able to show me ONE person in the whole world...that can answer to questions like bashar does...he never gets out of the flow and never "memorises"....his answers are always integrative and "wise"....and he never stumbles or is in stress..show me one person.. Only one..

hitler? are you kidding me. i will not even adress that.



you sceptics....tsss

Originally posted by jaws1975


I was very leery of Bashar when I first started listening to him, let's be honest he sounds funny. I have watched dozens of his videos for FREE, and this guy is either the real deal or he is the most convincing fraud I have ever witnessed. His ability to talk for 10 to 15 minutes on the fly without hesitation, without having to pause to think of what he is going to say, to field every question with answers that simply amaze should be enough for even the most skeptical to at least be slightly impressed.

Daryl has been doing his thing for 30 years there should be plenty of smoking guns right? Where are they? Feel free to not believe a word he says, I could really care less! You make yourself look bad when you call someone a charlatan with no proof.

yeah his flow is awesome... one of the talent he has is when he talks about systems that we have, but they dont...listen to how he first describes our concept of astrology and than puts it in an integrative whole...its just genius to be able to talk like that

...its pure and precise and just flows..i never heard even an astrologist talk like that...and Bashar is not even a fan of astrology..he rarely talks about it!! and just listen how he talks.

just wow. starts at: 6:24-----show me one person who can flow like that to almost all questions...

Originally posted by greyer
I've looked through the material and the OP is a total hoax.

convincing stuff

Originally posted by jaws1975

The guy doesn't sell fear porn, he has never had a negative thing to say, to the best of my knowledge there is no failed predictions (cause he doesn't really make predictions), 99% of his fan base has learned everything they know about Bashar for free, I really don't understand what the issue is with Bashar. Make the world a better place, go after the real bad guys out there.

bashar about a chance of a nuclear breach in japan.... (2004) 7 minute mark

www.youtube.com...=423s

... and the question still remains; if he knows how to win The Lottery, then, WHY DOES HE NOT?

He could give his message of love and light and joy and rainbows away for free then.

He's a fraud, that can't deliver, and the only way to win the "lottery" in his book, is to convince a bunch of gullible soft headed people to throw money at him for his oh so convincing mumbo jumbo.

Certainly if his message was SO important, he'd give it away for free, and I mean willingly, full time, not some old scrap floating around on youtube?

So, let's see this kook win the lottery, and let's see this kook win the lottery TWO TIMES IN A ROW.
He'll never have to charge anyone a spot or speck of money again, and can then ensure that everyone gets his message, not just people with money.

The proof is in the lack of what he does and has done compared to his claims.

Show us this fraud winning the lottery

I can show you a trickster that pick numbers:


He'll even help a man to actually WIN:


I don't see your special message of rainbow and light fraud even coming close to being able to deliver results like these.

NOPE.

Originally posted by Druscilla
... and the question still remains; if he knows how to win The Lottery, then, WHY DOES HE NOT?

He could give his message of love and light and joy and rainbows away for free then.

He's a fraud, that can't deliver, and the only way to win the "lottery" in his book, is to convince a bunch of gullible soft headed people to throw money at him for his oh so convincing mumbo jumbo.

Certainly if his message was SO important, he'd give it away for free, and I mean willingly, full time, not some old scrap floating around on youtube?

So, let's see this kook win the lottery, and let's see this kook win the lottery TWO TIMES IN A ROW.
He'll never have to charge anyone a a spot or speck of money again, and can then ensure that everyone gets his message, not just people with money.

edit on 16-8-2012 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)

you dont get it. Bashar is not darryl...only because bashar says something does not mean that darryl has to know that. And darryl does not need to win in the lottery..its not is goal..not his joy. and its not as easy as you think for any human to BELIEVE...

Bashar can tell you a lot about quantum physics, while darryl has no clue about that. bashar can tell you what a proton is and how it works..darryl can not. (but of course you think that he is a fraud so bashar and darryl are the same person....thats why its even hard for you to have the right beliefsystem to even handle bashar)

It seems you did not even watch the whole video..he even says: you can win in the lottery if that is your highes excitement und you focus in the right way BUT for many winning in the lottery ISNT even the hightest excitment. (of course you would deny that because you seem not to be able to really watch what happens for many people that are playing the lotery)..
..the highest excitment for them is just to DREAM about what they WOULD do with the money....
the thing about resonance is: it does not work with wishes..THe resonance principle is not a genie..Its much more direct than that: When you wish something the universe reflects to you that YOU NEED SOMETHING not that you will get something.....thats the whole point.
The resonance principle is "blind"....

watch the video.you clearly didnt ..

Just go play somewhere else if you are sceptic about something which you dont even KNOW .

my god..that sucks.

i really can understand that you want to be sceptic about bashar..its the end of your WHOLE beliefsystem!!!!