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Originally posted by Siberbat
So, what will it be? Do we continue to help our allies and other nations across the world, or become isolationists?
Be careful what you ask for...for if your hatred is that strong for the USA, you just might get it.
Originally posted by trysts
reply to post by sonnny1
Ummm...what about the fact that the U.S. government keeps murdering people by the millions around the world? Some of us are upset about that....
Originally posted by ToneDeaf
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This is why :
An American police officer complains about not being able to carry a gun during a trip to Canada.
The culture in u.s. seems to think that everything can be
solved with guns.
This is a sick mental disorder. americans lack respect,
respect is earned not coerced by a gun barrel.
The globe is watching,
history will not be re-written, the world will not forget.
en.wikipedia.org...
u.s. gun culture has not changed, same atrocities as usual
en.wikipedia.org...
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Originally posted by binkman
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by binkman
Lets get this straight the left of that era cut and run from Vietanam the battles were won by America but like I said already the Us has not fought any "War" with its full military might since ww2 the micro managing of Johnson is the same thing with the micro managing and stupid rules of engagement that we current saw in Iraq and Afghanistan and the left true to form cut and ran from Iraq and sure the hell doesn't know what it doing it Afghanistan.
YOU LOST THE VIETNAM WAR. YOU WERE RUN OUT OF VIETNAM BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE DESPITE BRINGING ALL OF YOUR MILITARY ¨MIGHT¨ TO BEAR.
Stop trying to rewrite history, it´s a disgusting trait you Americans have.
Originally posted by neo96
But that isn't the military's fault that is the asinine,stupid civilian leadership to get straight to the point the US military has never lost a war.
Your troops could not fight in the jungle.
Funny, because at the same time, this thing called the Malaysian Emergency was going on, picture if you will, the same scenario, but in Malaysia. Communist groups, looking to overthrow the government. Britain managed to succeed with less than half the number of troops the US had in less than half the time. And Malaysia remains a stable democracy, unlike the Communist state of Vietnam.
Originally posted by Antonio1
Don't talk about a country you clearly know nothing about.
Originally posted by ToneDeaf
Originally posted by Antonio1
Don't talk about a country you clearly know nothing about.
The rest of the people on the globe have a say,
and the stats say that u.s. is a threat to global security.
When you speak of "freedom" it designates corporate freedom.
The women and children murdered, raped, and indiscriminately
fired on by drones is not the definition of freedom.
Respect is not acquired by thuggery but earned. Respect will
NEVER be attained from a barrel of a gun, #2 to earn respect first you
must respect the sovereignty of others even if their beliefs differ from yours.
Hey Antonio, seems you missed out on the global consensus
(you DON'T need to be an american for that) :
more than half of the population in Spain holds the United States as the biggest threat to global security.
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Originally posted by Antonio1 LEARN YOUR HISTORY YOU IGNORANT BIGOT BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT IT. We can't fight in the jungle? So, how do you explain all of those succesful battles on TROPICAL JUNGLE ISLANDS during World War II against Japan? Do you think that was all canada or something?
Originally posted by spoogemonkey
reply to post by Antonio1
that response is part of the reason for anti US sentiment. You should really be giving more respect to a nation and culture you thought you could be toppled easily. You were wrong, they put up a good fight. And in their eyes, they won.. you left.
Originally posted by ToneDeaf
Originally posted by Antonio1 LEARN YOUR HISTORY YOU IGNORANT BIGOT BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT IT. We can't fight in the jungle? So, how do you explain all of those succesful battles on TROPICAL JUNGLE ISLANDS during World War II against Japan? Do you think that was all canada or something?
And you wounder why the rest of the globe stereotypes american
culture, case and point. We're truly wishing that your demeanor is
the minority of americans. Successful ? by the blood of children ?
Diplomacy , justice and respect is not coerced by who has the biggest military.
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By the blood of children? What you don't seem to understand or care about is that it has never been U.S. policy to kill civilians. But, if there is collateral dammage caused by our military, the rest of the world acts like it was done on purpose. extra DIV
Originally posted by Antonio1. . . just that we propably could have won.
Originally posted by Siberbat
reply to post by My_Reality
You make it sound like the US is trying to conqure the world like Kublai Khan, Alexander the Great, and Ceasar. This is not the case. Many of our intanglements are due to treaties we signed, such as NATO, and other business and political interest. Is it wrong to protect our interests? Often times we are invited into the economic and geopolitical affiars of said countries. The truth is it goes hand and hand. To toute the moral highground of Arab nations is laughable. They slaughter women and homosexuals for violating cultural and religious edicts. Arabs practiced slavery for centuries, especially in Africa. Without american companies and equipment, thier oil would have remained in the ground for decades. It is the responsibility of government to protect those interests from threats. In fact, I work with several Iraqis, they are working very hard to not return to Iraq, and to become US citizens. They don't seem downtroden by american ideals, in fact, they are embrassing them.
As far as an adversarial government, ever seen the UK parlament have a heated debate? It looks like some kind of death match. Like a bunch of hooligans. lol. Makes our legislature look tame.
I'm sorry if I sound a little pointed, its not on you. Just a bit of passion on my part.
Originally posted by nighthawk1954
All I am going to say on this tread is one post. The hell with rest of the world...let's pull back all of our troops from every where and we protect our own boarders and people , we can strike anywhere if we have too.
That will keep our taxes down and we feed ourselves to keep prices down.
People of the world don't like us fine stand up for your selves if ever get attacked. A lot of people in this world would be speaking German today...Hello EU and other countries speaking Japanese or Russian. So rant and rave all ya like but the bottom line is when the crap hits the fan who does the world ask for help. Nope America is not perfect.
But you people talk a about our government, that's fine.
But do not talk about the average American citizen PERIOD. I have lost family members in WW1,WW2, ,Korea and Nam. Again Just bring everybody and everything home and let the rest of the world fend for themselves!
Originally posted by johneffendoe
What's even funnier is a Brit talking about us failing in Viet Nam -on the other side of the planet- when they couldn't even take care of business in Northern Ireland. A 38 year continual deployment that ended in dismal facepalming fail.