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A couple who had an adulterous relationship has been stoned to death in the town of Aguelhok, says a spokesman for the radical Islamic group controlling northern Mali.
Sanda Abou Mohamed, a spokesman for the group Ansar Dine, told The Associated Press on Sunday that the couple was executed according to Sharia law.
A resident of the northern city of Kidal, who had spoken to witnesses in nearby Aguelhok, said the man and woman were buried up to their necks and were then pelted with stones until they died earlier on Sunday.
The resident requested anonymity because he feared for his safety.
In Britain, The Union of Islamic Students' Associations in Europe issued a statement offering its services to Khomeini...
Meanwhile in America, the director of the Near East Studies Center at UCLA, George Sabbagh, told an interviewer that Khomeini was "completely within his rights" to call for Rushdie's death
According to Bernard Lewis, a death warrant without trial, defence, etc. violates Islamic jurisprudence. In Islamic fiqh, apostasy by a mentally sound adult male is indeed a capital crime. However, fiqh also:
... lays down procedures according to which a person accused of an offense is to be brought to trial....
Muhammad Hussan ad-Din, a theologian at Al-Azhar University, argued "Blood must not be shed except after a trial [when the accused has been] given a chance to defend himself and repent". Abdallah al-Mushidd, head of Azhar's Fatwā Council stated "We must try the author in a legal fashion as Islam does not accept killing as a legal instrument
The greatest misinterpretation of the recent times has been the Iranian Ayatollah’s fatwa to behead Salman Rushdie. Funny how Shia-Sunnis never unite, but they are united in their support for this coward and ghastly act.
A man using the alias Mustafa Mahmoud Mazeh accidentally blew himself up along with two floors of a central London hotel while preparing a bomb intended to kill Rushdie in 1989.
Hitoshi Igarashi, the Japanese translator of the book The Satanic Verses, was stabbed to death on 11 July 1991. Two other translators of the book survived attempted assassinations.
Ettore Capriolo, the Italian language translator, was seriously injured in a stabbing the same month as his Japanese counterpart.
Aziz Nesin, the Turkish language translator, was the intended target in the events that led to the Sivas massacre in July 1993, which resulted in the deaths of 37 people.
William Nygaard, the publisher in Norway, barely survived an attempted assassination in Oslo in October 1993.
In Belgium, two Muslim leaders who opposed Rushdie's death penalty were shot to death.
Two bookstores in Berkeley, California were firebombed.
Five bookstores in England were firebombed.
Twelve people died during rioting in Bombay.
Very interesting wording. Almost, if I may say so, cunning and sly. Which individual is being held accountable for a suicide bombing, or stoning, or church destruction, or killing? No one is, outside the actor. You're defending something that isn't being attacked. I predict you'll win.
I hate to be repetitive, so I'll try to streamline this. People are concerned about a group, a society, a culture, a religion. A religion dedicated in large part to conquering, in whichever manner is most effective, the world for Allah. We have seen murderers of families celebrated in the streets, governments rewarding the families of suicide bombers. Religious rules which would be unspeakable anywhere else, are imposed on populations. African countries are invaded with Allah's name being the prominent battle-cry.
Forgive me, for I may be a little emotional. But where are the efforts to prevent this? Where is the compensation for the victims? Why is this not condemned from every mosque in the world? Why are other Muslims not turning the violent ones in? Why aren't the killers and destroyers punished, ostracized, something?
You speak about an individual's soveregnity. You mean, if they subject themselves to all of the Islamic rules, don't you? Are they free to leave, say what they want, scrawl a cartoon on the ground, criticize their leaders, criticize their religion, date who they want, when they want to?
I may have said too much. I'd love to have a discussion, but a discussion requires something from both sides. I don't care to be so upset and I would love to have it explained why I shouldn't be. But no more condescension, insults and evasions, please.
Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by FlyInTheOintment
I will be happy to properly explain the nature of the spiritual warfare at some future point in some future thread.
For now, suffice to say that the demons of Hell are not happy when their works are being called into question publicly.
** redacted - because any talk of spiritual warfare is likely to be misinterpreted. **edit on 30-7-2012 by FlyInTheOintment because: (no reason given)
That is why I am concerned. Regardless of what Islam techniquely says, a large group that claims to be operating in the name of Islam are doing some things that I find quite appaling. And many people claim we need to respect these cultures that advocate this.
It appears they have given up. Too bad.
But, if we get into the spiritual warfare side, I'm sure we'll be led down some side track. Unless, of course, they've given up and we can have the thread to ourselves.
That last is the significant point. Any law of Islam may be broken to make Islam dominant in the world.
Islam strictly prohibits homosexual behavior, with penalties in some Middle Eastern countries ranging from imprisonment to death. But according to one Muslim cleric who cited a sheik’s fatwa, jihadis who want to smuggle explosives in their rectums can — and should — accept being “sodomized” to make room for the mini-bombs.
In a video originally broadcast on the Shia Muslim Fadak-TV channel in Great Britain, and posted on YouTube in June, a cleric refers to a Yemeni al-Qaida terrorist named Ibrahim al-Asiri who helped his younger brother Abdullah prepare for a 2009 suicide bombing aimed at Saudi Crown Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz.
The older brother’s chosen method of attack: a small bomb inserted into the younger Abdullah’s rear end. Abdul reportedly passed security checkpoints after persuading Saudi police that he was a repentant militant who wanted to surrender to the prince personally. Once inside the prince’s office, he blew himself up. But the prince — then the Saudi interior minister — survived until his June 2012 death of natural causes. He was 84.
In the video, as first reported by the New York-based Gatestone Institute, the cleric tells the story of a Wahhabi student who asked a sheik for permission to follow in Abdul al-Azira’s footsteps and carry out a rectal suicide mission.
“Sodomy is forbidden, and not permitted,” the cleric replies on video, according to a translation The Daily Caller has obtained, “but jihad takes priority because it makes Islam dominant. And if the dominance of Islam cannot be achieved except through sodomy, then it is OK”
‘’…give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.”
‘’Show respect for all men; love the church brotherhood. Reverence God. Honor the Head of State.’’
[The last bit, re: honoring the authorities – this is not a commandment to be adhered to if you live in a place like North Korea, or the ‘democratic’ Republic of Congo. In such instances, civil disobedience, peaceful protest & especially argument in favor of religious freedom is a moral obligation, wherever possible. Sadly, in almost all such instances, martyrdom for the sake of Christ – and many other religious principles - is a common occurrence…]
Towards the downtrodden:
[from the parable of the Good Samaritan]
…‘’Which was a neighbor to him?’’
…’’The one who displayed kindness?’’
…’’Go and do likewise.’’
[IE – Show kindness to all people who are in need, regardless of ethnicity or creed, and act charitably without self-interest, as far as it is within your power to do so…]
‘’If possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone’’
[Christians are not, as many misunderstand, called to face brutal oppression of either their community or their city/ region/ nation with endless turning of the cheek. It is permissible to act in warfare as an absolute last resort, in order to protect the inherent and fundamental right that any human being has to exist, to live, and to continue in the pursuit of progress – by procreation, social advance, technological development & spiritual refinement - so long as they do not, in turn, seek to oppress others following a victory. As Lao Tzu said, the attitude of a victor in battle should be that of a person attending a funeral; by that he meant ‘dignified, respectful, and supportive to those who mourn’.
Turning the other cheek, therefore, is most applicable in the microcosmic disputes that afflict all folk from time to time (petty arguments, unjust treatment by officials, etc). At the macrocosmic levels of human experience, turning the other cheek can be specifically inspirational when individuals or groups are enabled to ‘triumph’ in the spiritual sense, defiantly & yet forgivingly gracious in the face of goading, harassment, torture and even death, when facing instances of persecution specifically relating to their cherished beliefs.]
The Birth of Jesus Foretold
26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a village in Galilee, 27 to a virgin named Mary. She was engaged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of King David. 28 Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you!”
29 Confused and disturbed, Mary tried to think what the angel could mean. 30 “Don’t be afraid, Mary,” the angel told her, “for you have found favor with God! 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus. 32 He will be very great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David. 33 And he will reign over Israel forever; his Kingdom will never end!”
34 Mary asked the angel, “But how can this happen? I am a virgin.”
35 The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby to be born will be holy, and he will be called the Son of God.
22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things..!
Originally posted by The Old American
Originally posted by samsamm9
Did ATS become a haven for Anti-Islamic propaganda ?
This is getting really old dude.
No more so than it has anti-Christian or anti-Jewish propaganda. I would submit that it's time for an honest discussion about Islam, what it is and isn't, and not be afraid to speak out against, or for, it, since people have no problem in ATS slamming Christians and Jews, while singing "Kumbaya" about Islam, who is currently responsible for quite a bit of murder and mayhem in the world right now.