Israel Loves Iran campaign says "Give Peace A Chance", page 5


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reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 06:48 PM by votan
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The only people who can stop war are soldiers not people. The government will just override anything we try to do to stop them and if we fall out of line they will just use homeland security on us.

how many people were not opposed to the iraq war?


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 07:15 PM by Blaine91555
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It's a wonderful dream and if it were possible it would be great.

How is a Facebook page going to get Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran to change his religious and cultural beliefs? Not only does he believe that the Jews are the product of men mating with animals, he believes it's his destiny to wipe them off the face of the planet. Will a Facebook page change his mind?

Those things don't come from me and Khamenei has never made a secret of his beliefs. Propagandists like to pretend otherwise, but that is the reality. Khamenei believes he is serving God if he commits genocide against the Jews and he has absolute control over Iran.

Wonderful idea, but as naive as I was in the sixties and seventies when I protested for world peace without a clue what the world was like. We can call for peace all we wish, but that won't change the facts, nor will it change the minds of radical Islam or Khamenei. They want the Jews dead and that's the end of subject for them. They also want to place the whole world under a Theocratic Dictatorship under their rule. That is their goal and they don't care much about Facebook pages.

A person can live in a fantasy world where it's all peaches and cream or live in reality. If we live in a fantasy world it makes it easier for evil people to destroy us. Look what they have done to the Muslims for hundreds of years.


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 07:21 PM by g2v12
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Many Israelis have gone to prison for refusing to serve in the IDF which often shoots stone throwing school children. There are groups of former IDF soldiers who have gone public with art and movies and even a war museum, documenting the atrocities and genocide that has been done for the sake of the state.

I applaud them for the courage and honesty it takes for a real human being to make peace which himself, his country and his brother-the enemy.

I pray that all of the good that there is left in Israel will rise up with one voice to say-STOP the killing.


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 07:33 PM by g2v12
Originally posted by Blaine91555
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post by sonnny1



It's a wonderful dream and if it were possible it would be great.

How is a Facebook page going to get Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran to change his religious and cultural beliefs? Not only does he believe that the Jews are the product of men mating with animals, he believes it's his destiny to wipe them off the face of the planet. Will a Facebook page change his mind?

Those things don't come from me and Khamenei has never made a secret of his beliefs. Propagandists like to pretend otherwise, but that is the reality. Khamenei believes he is serving God if he commits genocide against the Jews and he has absolute control over Iran.

Wonderful idea, but as naive as I was in the sixties and seventies when I protested for world peace without a clue what the world was like. We can call for peace all we wish, but that won't change the facts, nor will it change the minds of radical Islam or Khamenei. They want the Jews dead and that's the end of subject for them. They also want to place the whole world under a Theocratic Dictatorship under their rule. That is their goal and they don't care much about Facebook pages.

A person can live in a fantasy world where it's all peaches and cream or live in reality. If we live in a fantasy world it makes it easier for evil people to destroy us. Look what they have done to the Muslims for hundreds of years.



I think the article was quite clear in defining the difference between the multifarious agendas of governments and the unfettered ideals of "people" in general.

Also, there are plenty of radical Jews with extremist views, propaganda and agendas just as there are Khameneis.

There are many institutions, civilian and governmental that seek to usurp whatever freedom and wealth there is in the world.

Why stereotype the conflict and the constant struggle we all have by focusing on one of many conflicts between parties?

It almost seems that your statement defines some justification for hatred.


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 07:43 PM by sonnny1
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I think many forget, that the Iranians, are also doing this too. Its not just a grassroots effort, on the Israel side.
Thats the best part. Both sides, are activly supporting this, and are risking their freedoms, at home, to do it.

I applaud them for it.




reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 07:56 PM by SyphonX
Originally posted by SLAYER69

Apathy



ap·a·thy [ap-uh-thee] noun, plural ap·a·thies.


1.) Absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement

2.) Lack of interest in or concern for things that others find moving or exciting.

What was this directed at exactly?

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post by sonnny1


Yea, well people generally don't want to be bombed, and I wager people are sick of watching other people getting bombed. So if people are waking up, then I say good. But what of the governments forcing war on their people, as is always the case in all wars.

A government can do anything to peddle fear, doesn't matter what side you stand, each government does it. I would like to finally see a populace immune to this.
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reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 09:33 PM by SyphonX
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I'm not being apathetic, or cynical to peace, or the want of peace from the populations of Iran & Israel.

I am cynical of the war-hawk political leaders and their demagoguing, instigating and other nonsense. Something needs to be done about this before we can truly live in peace. If all it takes is for all the people to rise up to share their want of peace with each other, I will sit back and be quiet and let it happen. But leaders and pundits will continue to spew, and there always needs to be a counter to it. Love thy neighbor, but you have to tell the other neighbor to stop yelling, first.


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 10:02 PM by neo96
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reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 11:28 PM by bluemirage5
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I'm a member of this site however many photos of Israelis and Iranians are in fact Israelis and Persian Jews!


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 11:31 PM by sonnny1
Originally posted by bluemirage5
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post by sonnny1



I'm a member of this site however many photos of Israelis and Iranians are in fact Israelis and Persian Jews!





Does it matter, Blue?

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reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 11:40 PM by bluemirage5
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Yeah it does, I'd like to see more Israelis meet up with Iranians of other faiths


reply posted on 19-7-2012 @ 11:47 PM by sonnny1
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to
post by sonnny1



Yeah it does, I'd like to see more Israelis meet up with Iranians of other faiths


Sorry, but there alot of REAL Iranians, sharing in this also.



You cant just paint a broad brush that the feelings are ONLY coming from "Persian Jews".

Unless, that's how you want to paint it. With a dividing line, by ethnicity.
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