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Jesus, being a human, would have had a human nature, regardless of what he may or may not have inherited.
Im saying he inherited no sinful nature from Adam.
Jesus did not have to be "God" to be without spot or blemish. Now you do not agree but you are going against the clear word of the New Testament that said he was fully tempted, as we all are. You believe Jesus could not have fallen, so where was the temptation if that was true? Your goal (it seems like to me) is to provide yourself a ready-made excuse for your own failings and to pretend that Jesus was never meant to be our example to follow, to overcome evil in our own lives. You suppose that being cleansed of unrighteousness is just metaphorical and not something God can do in reality.
He was without spot or blemish, He was God incarnate.
The word here, homologeo, translated as confess, means to come to an agreement, where I believe this is different terminology by John from that used by Paul to mean the same thing as when he says justification, which is to come to an accord, meaning an alignment of your behavior, to the standard of acceptable behavior to the Lord.
1 John 1:9 is an absurd verse to have in the Bible if we can never sin.
Bearing fruit is not just a suggestion, it is actually demanded. That may be the difference between our views, where you think you have to show some buds, then after that any actual fruit is irrelevant since all you had to do is show that at any point you indicated an intention of bearing fruit.
We still make mistakes even as Spirit-filled Christians. Sanctification is not a snap of the fingers process. I know you're going to read that as a free pass to live like Hitler, but i'm not implying that. Admitting mistakes happen from time to time is not sanctioning that we can live as we used to live. We are called to bear fruit.
Things like you mentioned would be things that, if you based your righteousness on them, would make you a legalist.
Here.. let me address Legalism.
1. Do you eat shrimp, lobster, clams, scallops, or mollusks?
2. Do you wear blended clothing?
3. Do you cut the hair on your sideburns?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Things like you mentioned would be things that, if you based your righteousness on them, would make you a legalist.
Here.. let me address Legalism.
1. Do you eat shrimp, lobster, clams, scallops, or mollusks?
2. Do you wear blended clothing?
3. Do you cut the hair on your sideburns?
I think you are making a smoke screen to hide your true opinion, that no code is applicable for salvation and is only based on ones desire.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by truejew
That's how the game is played. Bury your answer amid a bunch of scripture and superficial details, then neatly dodge the next question and ask one of your own. The other guy mirrors the strategy and the whole process repeats.
It's just an assumption on your part to think I follow any Levitical laws.
You can't pick and choose which Levitical laws you follow, if you wanna follow it you gotta follow the whole thing.
Sure he was fully tempted. But being tempted isnt a sin, acting on that temptation is a sin.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Sure he was fully tempted. But being tempted isnt a sin, acting on that temptation is a sin.
I am very happy to see you have come over to the salvation by works alone side.
Originally posted by truejew
borntowatch,
Why are you afraid of answering if repentance is necessary for salvation? Is pride the reason? Or are you afraid of what your friends and family will think? Shouldn't your soul be more important than both?edit on 21-7-2012 by truejew because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by borntowatch
Jews must keep the law...duh, Christians are covered by grace not the law.
Paul disagrees in the following Scriptures...
"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." (Romans 2:28-29 KJV)
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Sure he was fully tempted. But being tempted isnt a sin, acting on that temptation is a sin.
I am very happy to see you have come over to the salvation by works alone side.
It's the opposite side from the Free Grace advocates.
What the heck is the "salvation by works alone" side? . . .
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by adjensen
It's the opposite side from the Free Grace advocates.
What the heck is the "salvation by works alone" side? . . .
"Works" is the idea that God wants the earth populated with good people.
"Free Grace" believes the state of the world is irrelevant, and all that matters is going to heaven, even if you are still bad.edit on 21-7-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
There is no such thing as "free grace".
Wikipedia
Free Grace theology is a soteriological view within Protestantism teaching that everyone receives eternal life the moment they believe in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Lord.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by adjensen
It's the opposite side from the Free Grace advocates.
What the heck is the "salvation by works alone" side? . . .
"Works" is the idea that God wants the earth populated with good people.
"Free Grace" believes the state of the world is irrelevant, and all that matters is going to heaven, even if you are still bad.edit on 21-7-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
I don't think that there is much of a case to be made for a Christian "by works alone" doctrine.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
No, the Son manifested as Jesus. The Holy Spirit is basically the wind/breath of God. The Hebrew word is "Ruach" and means wind/ breath.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And of course repentance is necessary for salvation, unless a person is born a believer.