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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jmdewey60
Here.. let me address Legalism.
1. Do you eat shrimp, lobster, clams, scallops, or mollusks?
2. Do you wear blended clothing?
3. Do you cut the hair on your sideburns?
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Ah, but Jesus performed those miracles by himself, which implies that he and the Father were separate. Similarly, the Holy GHost cannot be both THE Father and WITH the Father. WITH implies beside, separate from.
On the other hand, if they really are separate, then Christians are polytheists. And if they are monotheistic, that means they worship three-in-one, something that many members here have been arguing against for a while now.
So which one is it? 'Fess up.edit on 21-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
...God is One.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by truejew
So what are you, and how does that make you NOT polytheistic? Because obviously, if they follow the Holy Bible and that makes their faith polytheistic, you're following something else.
Care to explain in further detail?edit on 21-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
That's legalism? Okay, I want to say something here.
The Bible is the Word of God. The Holy Scripture. All of it. You cannot pick and choose, because it is all equally valid, yes? So if you follow one rule but ignore the other, that means one of two things: either you are allowed to break rules and not have to repent, or there are parts of the Bible that are invalid.
So, if you can break rules and not repent, how do you decide that? Who has the authority to deem that appropriate? Who figures that out?
And if there are parts that are invalid, how do you know which parts are and which parts aren't? How do you know any of it is valid after all?
And how can you choose between legalism and something else? How is there any choice at all? Either you follow the Word, or you don't. There shouldn't be any gray area. How do you figure that out?edit on 21-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by truejew
NOTurTypical is not known for making sense, True. Don't even bother trying to get logic out of him. It's against his... religion. *rimshot*edit on 21-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
I am a Christian/Jew/Apostolic Jew/Apostolic Christian...
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
...God is One.
In your previous post you said He was three. 1 does not = 3. So which is it?
Secondly, the Law was fulfilled in Christ, we are no longer under it's yoke.
And thirdly, if one wants to keep the Mosaic or Levitical Law one must do so on all points and at all times.
Christianity isn't about rules, it's about relationship with God on a personal daily level through His Son Jesus Christ.
And secondly, Christ gave two commandments, He said His yoke was easy and His burden was light. We are commanded to love God with all out strength, might, and heart and to love our neighbor as ourselves.
The real question is were Gentiles ever a party to the original covenant in the first place, that's the number 1 question we need to answer first. Then the second question is when Gentiles become Christians do the need to become Jews first? And that was answered at the Jerusalem council in Acts 15.
The difference between Legalism and Holiness is motive and application. The same way the difference between making love and rape is motive and application.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by truejew
I am a Christian/Jew/Apostolic Jew/Apostolic Christian...
This alone shows why the Bible is no longer valid. People will remove half of it, then put a prefix and call it a new religion.
This is what I call political spirituality. It's a crock, especially when you proceed to quote the Bible like you actually care what it says (considering you mutilated it in the process of building your church).
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
...God is One.
In your previous post you said He was three. 1 does not = 3. So which is it?
We have 3 parts to us, body spirit and soul.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Then why the hell are there ten commandments?!?!?! God didn't think to simplify?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I have never said HE was three. You keep saying I said that.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And don't ask me any more questions until you answer the ones I already asked you on the previous page.