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Did Jesus ever experience or go through periods of doubt?

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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If we take a look at this verse:



About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).


and



“If it is possible, let this cup pass from Me”


So, the question is: Did Jesus ever experience or go through periods of doubt?




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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No one would ever know since Jesus didn't write his own scripture for whatever reason.


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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
No one would ever know since Jesus didn't write his own scripture for whatever reason.


edit on 15-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


Would you say some of his sayings are flawed, since he didn't write it?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76
If we take a look at this verse:



About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).


and



“If it is possible, let this cup pass from Me”


So, the question is: Did Jesus ever experience or go through periods of doubt?


I think you already answered your own question.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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I think you already answered your own question.


But, we have these:


“aYou of little faith, why did you doubt?”




“So do not fear; ayou are more valuable than many sparrows.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Did jesus spend time in tibet?.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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I believe the second one would be fear... not doubt.

This is why he sweat blood... its possible during periods of extreme stress




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Taking the "God in the bod" as literal, then yes.

You cannot be human without running the gamut



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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I believe the second one would be fear... not doubt.

This is why he sweat blood... its possible during periods of extreme stress



Is fear not doubt?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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How can one doubt physical pain?

He feared what was to come...




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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How can one doubt physical pain?

He feared what was to come...



Not using that verse, could fear be doubt? For instance. Father says I will be alright, I walk into a lions den, but yet I fear the lions. Am I doubting Fathers word, by being fearful?
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76
If we take a look at this verse:



About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).


and



“If it is possible, let this cup pass from Me”


So, the question is: Did Jesus ever experience or go through periods of doubt?


Fear, yes. Doubt, no... because He knew what He was going to go through, and knew why.
Regarding the first - you'll find that Jesus was quoting Psalm 22... and He did so precisely because He WAS forsaken by the Father. Hanging on the cross, bearing the sin of the world, completely cut the Son off from the Father. This is what films like "The Passion" miss: the fact that the greatest suffering of the cross was not physical, but spiritual. Christ endured something totally alien to Him up to that point: the separation of God from God, Father from Son.

...and regarding the second quote, again, I wouldn't put that down as doubt, but a logical response to what Christ would have to endure. He knew what was written about Him in the Scriptures (and made this known to His disciples also)... Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 are common examples of what Christ knew would occur... so the question isn't whether or not the cup would be taken from Him, but whether there was any other way. Revelation hints at the same question... where nobody was found that was worthy to open the scroll and read its contents. John wept over this fact, until the "Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world" was revealed, and the angels cried out that he alone was worthy.

It's the same principle. This is a form of validation - that Christ alone was capable of bridging the divide between man and God... and not a form of doubt.

Hope that helps!



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by Akragon
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How can one doubt physical pain?

He feared what was to come...



Not using that verse, could fear be doubt? For instance. Father says I will be alright, I walk into a lions den, but yet I fear the lions. Am I doubting Fathers word, by being fearful?
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of course...

but fear of pain is natural to one that can experience it...

Jesus was tested here just like everyone else, was he not? Perhaps God wanted to find out how far is trust in him would go?

He took what he knew to his death, never wavering... until the end.




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Jesus was tested here just like everyone else, was he not? Perhaps God wanted to find out how far is trust in him would go?


If Jesus is God, why would God need to test himself?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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This is what films like "The Passion" miss: the fact that the greatest suffering of the cross was not physical, but spiritual. Christ endured something totally alien to Him up to that point: the separation of God from God, Father from Son.


This makes sense. So, his spiritual side was fearful of the separation.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76
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Jesus was tested here just like everyone else, was he not? Perhaps God wanted to find out how far is trust in him would go?


And here comes the arguement.... :bnghd:

If Jesus is God, why would God need to test himself?


Jesus is not God...

He is Gods son...




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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So this shows, that not only man, but all are tested?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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Sounds good to me...

i can only speak for what i know... and that is man




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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Sounds good to me...

i can only speak for what i know... and that is man



From your quote:


Jesus was tested here just like everyone else, was he not? Perhaps God wanted to find out how far is trust in him would go?


Could you expand on this. Why do you think Father would test his son, whom others say he is perfect?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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He learned to be perfect... but he made his mistakes as far as i've found...

If you read the infancy gospels you'll see what i mean...

He was subject to the same presures that every man was, but he had a purpose... as we all do. His was greater then all though... To show us how God wants us to be...

But he had to learn as well... He was once a child, and needed to learn like all of us...

The difference is he remembered where he came from... no one else does.

This is that veil i told you about...




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