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Originally posted by charles1952
One difference, for me, is that Satan is generally considered to be a fallen angel. They are a different type of creation from mankind. People are his "children," angels aren't. I don't know what the relationship is between God and the angelic sphere, but I think it's reasonable that His love for them would be different than His love for us.
I don't think that New Testament "love" passages should be automatically considered to refer to angels any more than they do to rocks, trees, jellyfish, or dolphins. For me, the question is "Does He love us?" I think so, and am a little less concerned about His feelings towards angels.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Dear NOTurTypical,
Thank you very much. I'd hate to go off on a wrong track. That was something I had taken for granted, but now I'm going to have to do some looking. Thanks again.
With respect,
Charles1952
No worries. The angels are "sons of god" we are all sons of Adam. We can be "adopted" as sons of God through Christ though. If you want scripture references just ask my friend.
Originally posted by oneness86
If they actually exist they are definitely business partners
And here's a little from Hebrews 2:
13 To which of the angels did God ever say,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”?
14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil — 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by charles1952
The writer of Hebrews was writing as a rabbi would to the Jews explaining among other things that Christ was higher than the angels as the God-man.
Originally posted by jhill76
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by charles1952
The writer of Hebrews was writing as a rabbi would to the Jews explaining among other things that Christ was higher than the angels as the God-man.
To expand on this further. Here is the hierarchy.
Father
Jesus
Fathers Seven Spirits
The Ark (Chief Angel)
6 Archangels
The remaining archangels
Elders
Regular Angels
Forgot the Cherubim. They are higher than Archangels. There are only two archangels mentioned in scripture. Gabriel and Michael. And Father, Jesus, and Ruach ha'Kodesh are One. (Deut 9:6)
Deut 9:6
Pardon me? "Mother" a.k.a. "queen of heaven"?
And yes, the shema. God is One. The Father, Son, and Ruach are co-equal, co-eternal Elohyim.
nd you still have no cherubim or seraphim for that matter. Only Cherubim guard the throne of God. 5 are mentioned in the Bible.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jhill76
Okay... do you realize you're bordering on heretical blasphemy? Your theology proper and Christology is seriously out of whack? I like you so I mean that with all due respect. You're making some claims that are basically anti-Biblical.