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Originally posted by jhn7537
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Originally posted by jhn7537
Originally posted by grahag
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by grahag
About 90% of those negative changes in Obamacare only affect people making over $250,000 a year.
Don't cry when they change the laws, to apply to those making 20k or less a year.....That's the whole point of it. More Government. More intrusion.
I definitely won't.
I'd be happy to be making 250k per yer... Bring the taxes! I say!
Its easy to say that when you're not earning anything close to that... Everyone has a voice when its not their money... amazing...
Actually a lot of people are pretty consistent in their values... Whether they make 20k or move up to 250K... The ones who pinch pennies and care only about their own dollar do so regardless of their income. It's a cop out to say if you made more you would be upset by this. That implies that people are guaranteed to become selfish if they make a certain amount of money. Clearly this is the nature of the GOP followers. The GOP cries constitution to hide their own greed and their followers eat up every talking point and regurgitate it back... Its obvious to the entire world, but for the misinformed FOX News viewer.
It's not greed.. Its what fair is fair... And people who have less money are more likely to compromise those values you speak of, especially when push comes to shove... Wealthier people arent usually put in the desperate situations that a person who is making $15k a year are...
And why is it that all liberals have to resort to tossing out FOX news when ever they want to make a point? You act like we all believe every single word they say. Just so you know thats not the case...
And we cry out constitution because its BEING RIPPED AWAY FROM US, and YOU people dont seem to care at all...
edit on 29-6-2012 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
You really think the GOP care about whats constitutional?
No.
Do you think the Democrats care ?
If you do, your as drunk as those same GOP you are vilifying !
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Just look at what you know about the GOP and how hard they fought this and how hard FOX tried to vilify it...
WHO CARES ABOUT THE GOP !
FOXNEWS ? Really ?
This is about a forced penalized filled tax bill !
Is that too hard for you to understand ?
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
You really think they are fighting the good fight?
See above answers to ALL your questions .edit on 29-6-2012 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
I say, if I have to pay taxes for all this sh*t, give me healthcare.
Originally posted by sonnny1
Just remember.......
The financial penalty for failing to carry insurance possesses "the essential feature of any tax," producing revenue for the government ~ Chief Justice Roberts
(a) Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage An applicable individual shall for each month beginning after 2013 ensure that the individual, and any dependent of the individual who is an applicable individual, is covered under minimum essential coverage for such month.
(g) Administration and procedure (1) In general The penalty provided by this section shall be paid upon notice and demand by the Secretary, and except as provided in paragraph (2), shall be assessed and collected in the same manner as an assessable penalty under subchapter B of chapter 68. (2) Special rules Notwithstanding any other provision of law— (A) Waiver of criminal penalties In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure. (B) Limitations on liens and levies The Secretary shall not— (i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or (ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.
if you don't believe you should be paying for "all this sh*t", then stand up and put a stop to it.
I say, if I have to pay taxes for all this sh*t, give me healthcare
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
I say, if I have to pay taxes for all this sh*t, give me healthcare.
Sorry, but BIGGER Government IS the Problem.
I am against War also. I am against ANY intrusion into my private life, by Government. This is a forced piece of Legislation that says YOU have to,or else . Period. I am sad people are selling themselves short,selling their freedoms,for a supposed doctors visit...........
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by spiritualzombie
if you are an American patriot (even a passive one), then why aren't you demanding better ??
if you don't believe you should be paying for "all this sh*t", then stand up and put a stop to it.
I say, if I have to pay taxes for all this sh*t, give me healthcare
we have that power but all tooooo many are prepared to roll over and take it.
edit on 29-6-2012 by Honor93 because: typo
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by neo96
Obama care just killed the "progress" in the healthcare feilds.
You obviously don't work in the healthcare field.
The passed few years in healthcare have been booming...and guess why??? Yep...."obamacare".
Thanks Obama....for moving the healthcare field forward.edit on 29-6-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Has anyone found the section of the constitution that gives the federal government jurisdiction over individual citizens?
Especially when those citizens are living exclusively within one state?
Because I'm pretty sure that it's not there...
i could second this opinion except, what does healthcare have to do with health insurance ??
As soon as we become immortals I'll think of healthcare as optional.
Originally posted by openminded2011
Whats really funny to me, is that people are all up in arms about a tax penalty. Did any of them ever stop to think about the coast of a catastrophic illness when you have no insurance? We are talking about being wiped out for life. Try that one on for size. Have a heart attack when you have no insurance, look at that bill, and compare it to the tax penalty a small percentage of people might incur.