Masons. It's time to decide which Temple you are building?

reply to post by getreadyalready


Yes, but the only way it can "miss" an electron, is when its caught in a molecule? And then its really a "neighboring" atom, that is "loaning" an electron?
God damn it my physics are rusty
l2google!

reply to post by Schrödinger


It doesn't have to just loan, they can actually give up the electron completely. Ions are extremely common in nature, but they are very short-lived because they're highly reactive. Something in a molecule sharing electrons is not technically an ion, although they still act pretty much the same.

Didn't mean to get off on a chemistry tangent anyhow, I was just trying to poke holes in his 666 theory. 666 is such a stupid thing for people to get caught up on. I don't know if it was this thread or another, but I used to make a lot of sales quotas by knowing how much of a discount would get a bill to come out to 666, and then people would always be willing to buy more to change the total. People are so easy to manipulate, and they know they are being manipulated so they latch on and accuse the totally wrong people. Just like this thread, a combination of religion paranoia and the feeling of manipulation, so they blame the Masons instead of looking at their own actions and own decision making and marketing that has shaped that decision making.

Yea I know, it is mybad to be honest.
I was curious, and not 100% certain..
Thank you for clearing it up, I cross-referenced when I read your reply, and you are spot on

Originally posted by cry93
EnochWasRight,

I have quick questions for you that may seem odd and a little off topic. I see you shared the 666, 777, and 888 and related them to carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen. I find the number 9 very interesting, including 999. Do you have an opinion on 999 aka fluorine? It gets a bad rap with what mainstream conspiracy theorist because fluorine is used to make fluoride. Also elemental fluorine was essential in the Manhattan Project.

Fluorine is the most electronegative element. The symbol for electronegativity is "X" aka Chi.

edit on 15-6-2012 by cry93 because: (no reason given)

Yes. Already did a thread on it. Fluorine refines uranium, is fluoride in toothpaste and water, calcifies the pineal gland, and is fluorocarbon when mixed with carbon. 999 is 666 mirrored. Satan rises above God, then is burned.

Of all people on earth, the Masons should read my words and understand they are true. I have arrived at them independently. I am just now reading Apollyon Rising and am astonished at the confirmation of my own findings. On the testamony of two or three, we see truth emerge. God authors both sides of the symbolism. A person is attracted to the side they see by desire. Paganism is Osiris/ Apollo / Nimrod and True faith is Abraham, Issac, Jacob, David and Jesus. One takes and the other gives. The fruit tells you the one that is true.

In the end, if you see the false reflection, repent. Both reflections point to Jesus. Satan can only reflect and twist in a mirror. The miracle is that we have time to make the right choice and gain peace and joy over pain and misery.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Schrödinger

 

It doesn't have to just loan, they can actually give up the electron completely. Ions are extremely common in nature, but they are very short-lived because they're highly reactive. Something in a molecule sharing electrons is not technically an ion, although they still act pretty much the same.

Didn't mean to get off on a chemistry tangent anyhow, I was just trying to poke holes in his 666 theory. 666 is such a stupid thing for people to get caught up on. I don't know if it was this thread or another, but I used to make a lot of sales quotas by knowing how much of a discount would get a bill to come out to 666, and then people would always be willing to buy more to change the total.

People are so easy to manipulate, and they know they are being manipulated so they latch on and accuse the totally wrong people. Just like this thread, a combination of religion paranoia and the feeling of manipulation, so they blame the Masons instead of looking at their own actions and own decision making and marketing that has shaped that decision making.

If God were to symbolize Carbon, the common number would be the best, straight from the periodic table of elements. 666 is the common number, as 777 and 888 are the common numbers for nitrogen and oxygen. Why not just be truthful? Deception is so easy to see through. Inverse squares is on the side of truth. The closer we get to the light, the clearer it is. This doesn't end well for darkness. Allow truth to set you free.

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by Schrödinger
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I am pretty sure that electrons and protons will never change in a neutral carbon atom. Only thing that will change is the neutrons, this is what we call isotopes, but it really means nothing in regards to how the atom reacts.

Protons never change, the Protons determine the Atomic Number. The Neutrons will have natural variations, such as Carbon-14 that you've probably heard of. The Electrons change easily, readily, and often, but it does change the charge of the atom. Reactive atoms like Carbon,Oxygen, Flourine, etc, will often have extra electrons or be missing electrons creating Ions, and Ions are very common.

Is it irony that Hydrogen is 1 proton and 1 electron in a balanced state of unity? HydroGenesis would be a good word to describe life from water and light as described in Genesis. Would God be after this process or before? Among the elements or separate?

If good and evil are two balanced states, which side does God move creation toward? Which side of the story demonstrates the lesson of free will and proper choice to keep nature in harmony? Can Paganism bring harmony?
Romans 1 says we are without excuse if we don't notice.

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Hydrogen forms hydrogen bonds, easily forming compounds with other elements including carbon. Science does not prove, and logic can not demonstrate the immortality of the soul or even it's existence.

Originally posted by no1smootha
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Hydrogen forms hydrogen bonds, easily forming compounds with other elements including carbon. Science does not prove, and logic can not demonstrate the immortality of the soul or even it's existence.

I simply suggest that the story; the psychology behind the story; the physics; the laws and the end goal all match. Going against this is the aim of paganism. The purpose is impenetrable. Two objects cannot occupy the same space. The stronger overcomes the weaker. Good and evil are a choice. In the end, we are separated back to equilibrium. God separates the light and darkness. This life is our chance to do the same. Fire comes to those who fail the task. Water puts out fire. Failure is a product of effort and awareness. Time allows for both by trial within the error. Embracing the error is foolishness. We light the fire we burn by.

Taking a hidden reward creates a debt. Suffering for truth creates reward. One is easy and the other hard. One requires no responsibility or accountability. The other suffers for correct choice. In the end, lasting reward comes to the ones who suffer first. The last already take their reward. No lasting value comes from stealing the fruit of knowledge.

God projects both into the image. We choose. He already has. Make the best choice possible.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


Your arrogance never ceases to amaze me. anyone who does not agree with you, is falling victim to the Paganism trap. I wish that one day, when you realize how incredible insignificant you really are, you come back and read your threads and responses.

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Your arrogance never ceases to amaze me. anyone who does not agree with you, is falling victim to the Paganism trap. I wish that one day, when you realize how incredible insignificant you really are, you come back and read your threads and responses.

I never point to myself. I point to Jesus. We will all look back on day and only see Jesus from the reflecting point of life. Apollyon the destroyer is not your savior. Jesus is. Both are in the reflection. Link

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Your arrogance never ceases to amaze me. anyone who does not agree with you, is falling victim to the Paganism trap. I wish that one day, when you realize how incredible insignificant you really are, you come back and read your threads and responses.

The book, Apollyon Rising seems to suggest that the Pagan Societies are opening a gateway to the center of the galaxy (abyss).

II THESSALONIANS 2:6 And you now know the thing [the Abyss] that is holding back [Abaddon], that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only the thing [the Abyss] which now restrains [Abaddon] will continue to do so until out of the midst [of the Abyss] he comes. (literal)

Don't bet on this being a good thing. Jesus has a promise for those who repent and turn toward him.

II THESSALONIANS 2:1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. (NKJV)

Only a friend would tell you the way out. Paganism is a trap.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight


Only a friend would tell you the way out. Paganism is a trap.

no offence, but a friend would take the hint when he was told to leave it alone. We get it. You think we are all doomed unless we follow your narrow path to Jesus Christ. Understood. In fact, I think that everyone who has read this thread understands your position. You have done a fabulous job. Jesus will be very proud of you and he will reward you. Now, please go find someone who wants to hear your message. Because after 20 or 30 times, it starts to get really, really, really, really, really old.

Now, God bless you, go in peace, and most importantly, just go.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Going against this is the aim of paganism.

To be quite frank if becoming a Christian means I end up acting like you I think I would rather be a Pagan if I had to pick one or the other.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


I was an atheist in my youth, then I became a Pagan, today I am a Christian (Though with a pantheistic none-literal interpretations of scriptures) And I cannot recognize anything of the drivel that comes from this person claiming to be a Christian!

He is judging, accusing and forcing his point on view on others.
All three things are directly talked about by the person he claims to point towards.
And all three of them, are explicitly said to be things, we should not concern ourselves with, and leave to it (read: God/Jesus/Holy Ghost)

I've been following these church vs. Masons threads for a while now and I don't understand why there is so much arguing over individual rights.

The Masons choose their path; the religious choose theirs. What's the big deal?

Why do the religious feel the need to preach the gospel to others? Why don't you mind your own business? Live and let live.

I don't see why you have to rabidly pursue an organization that benefits the community and harms no one.

Who made the religious the arbiters of the truth? No one, not even God. He didn't come down out of the clouds and say, "Only my people speak the truth."

Maybe the religious should tend their own garden. After all, we don't hear reports of Masons raping children and covering it up.

You don't believe their are some one out their who worships the devil?

Then take a look this

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by rtyfx


sadly, the religious zealots that preach here won't shut the hell up long enough to understand that a large portion of the "evil masons" that they are trying to convert are already Christians. They are just not the "I've been indoctrinated into a mind control cult" type of Christian. I think instead of converting people, they are just driving them farther away due to their obnoxious behavior.

Low Level masons don't know the truth, High Level masons are the only one knowing the truth.
No one is being invited to this cult, and to be invited you must be ready to be against GOD.

Masonic is against any religious believe.

Originally posted by Fightthefight
Low Level masons don't know the truth, High Level masons are the only one knowing the truth.
No one is being invited to this cult, and to be invited you must be ready to be against GOD.

Masonic is against any religious believe.

So you must be a high level Mason since you know what high level Masons know or don't know ?

ETA : Care to name exactly what in Freemasonry that goes against any "religious believe" ? Not secondhand information , but because you are/were obviously a high level Mason since you claimed only they know the truth .

reply to post by whenandwhere

and quite obviously, he is the anti-christ. Right here on ATS!