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Originally posted by muse7
reply to post by neo96
Except that if you can't afford it, then they will help you pay for it.
Premium Subsidies Households with incomes below 400 percent and above 133 percent of the federal poverty line (FPL) who are enrolled in insurance plans offered through the exchanges are eligible for premium assistance financed by the federal government (Medicaid will cover families with incomes below 133 percent of FPL). In 2010, the FPL is $22,050 for family of four. The new law establishes a sliding scale of assistance based on limitations on required family contributions to the cost of coverage. For instance, at 150 percent of FPL in 2014, ObamaCare limits the amount that such households must contribute toward their health insurance premium to 4 percent of their annual income. At 400 percent of the FPL, households must contribute 9.5 percent of their income toward insurance premiums. Whatever portion of the total health insurance premium for their coverage is not paid by these households is covered by the new federal premium assistance program.
Forcing people to have access to healthcare...how evil of Obamaedit on 6/10/2012 by muse7 because: (no reason given)
funny, ppl already HAVE access to healthcare,
Forcing people to have access to healthcare
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
I haven't read the entire bill, so I don't know if what many are saying is true, although I did see some things that concerned me. The truth is that something needs to be done about the current healthcare "system" in the US. That's the bottom line. At least this bill is "something," even though it could make things worse in the long run.
and, which of those governments or healthcare systems even remotely resemble Obamacare ??
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by timetothink
How ignorant are you?
The best health care systems in the world are government run.
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by xuenchen
I'll admit I have not read the entire bill. *Shudders at the thought...sigh*
Yet, I have read plenty of write=ups on how Obamacare has already caused
the prices of health care plans to rise!
Originally posted by xuenchen
story from Western Center for Journalism
By Michael Connelly - June 8, 2012
The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.
Originally posted by xuenchen
However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated.
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by xuenchen
My doctor flat out refused to sign the Bill for Obamacare when it first came out because he didn't care for the idea of having some bureacrat regulate what treatments and medications patients obtained for their illnesses and conditions.
Is your Dr. a Senator?
Why would he need to sign a health care bill?
Italians and foreigners in Italy prefer to take private health insurance coverage over and above those basic state covers. With a private insurance, you can freely choose your own doctor and specialist and treated at private hospitals, thus avoiding for those long queues just to get an appointment for medical specialists. Private hospitals in Italy have the best accommodations, comparable to those five-star hotels. Although with the comfort and the quality of service from private hospitals, the medical care is very similar to those in public hospitals.
. Italian doctors are well trained and very passionate about their profession, and their private hospitals are comparable with any country. However, there are some state hospitals in Italy that are very patchy, providing comfort way below what most northern Europeans and Americans expect. These hospitals are normally found in southern Italy. To stay away with this, expatriates and Italians alike prefer to consider a private health insurance to generally cover the expensive costs of hospitalizations and surgeries just to have the comfort needed and to avoid waiting on long lists that are normally common on most state systems.
The Italian health care system is a decentralized version of the British NHS. Despite the high rankings by the WHO, Italians are dissatisfied with the quality of their care. Italians believe more patient choice will improve quality, but “given the general dysfunction of the Italian political system, and the entrenched opposition of special interest groups, substantial reform is not likely anytime soon.” Cost: Health care spending rose by 68% between 1995 and 2003.
Originally posted by babybunnies
Facts about Obamacare from someone who actually pays attention.
1) When people buy health care coverage under Obama care, they would be paying for it based on PRE TAX dollars.
2) When peopel buy health care coverage under GOP plan, they would be paying for it based on POST TAX dollars.
Hmm, this doesn't get much of a mention on FOX NEWS or at Romney rallies.