A world without time.

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Do you know reality? Or do you think something that someone has written is reality?
Can reality be known? Or is it reality that is knowing?

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Well withing the realms of reality.

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Why hold on to this body forever? Let go of this body and this mind and be what you are.
Timeless and spaceless and everpresent.
You are here and now. And here and now never goes anywhere.

We know that everything exists all the time. Nothing really dies or is destroyed. It changes form, yes, but that's not consistent with our concept of death. If time exists always, there is neither future nor past *in reality* then, as the Buddhists are fond of saying, there is only the Now. Now is all we have and it encompasses everything.

When we consider energy in the same way - and we are energy, are we not? - we have to concede that there is again no reason that we cannot and do not always exist because all things are always present. They may reform and regroup. But simply because we cannot see it doesn't mean it no longer exists. It still *is* but it changes with our focus on it. So if we change our perceptions and with them our beliefs, we could in fact attain this immortality so many people feel is so very important.

The next question we have to ask is why we wish for immortality in the first place, but what does that have to do with time?

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I plan on letting go, I'm just saying it in practical terms for our friend he doesn't see things as we do.

Life and death is part of the illusion. The illusion is just a movie in 3D vision with supersurround sound, with smell and touch and sensation, it is sensational. The seer and knower of the illusion cannot die because it was not born.
It is void, in the beginning there was nothing and then the word made believe there was something.
How can void or no thingness die or be harmed by anything?

Until one enquires into their true nature the world of time is believed in.
Until you find your true nature all sorts of 'things' will be believed.
A world is believed to be true until you discover what is really true.

A world without time would be a world without you. Time is a belief based on your continuation. You 'think' you need time to continue. And this thought of you in time makes you believe there is a you - a you separate from this moment, or this nowness, isness, suchness.
There is only this isness, nowness, suchness. And the belief in time makes you appear to be separate from the whole.
You are not separate from 'this' ever. This just always looks different. This, isness, nowness, suchness always is.

The 'you' you think you are is only based on time. The 'you' you really are is timeless and spaceless.

There is NO TIME. It is merely a measurement. There is a concept in spirit/mind of progression, of events occurring, where one thing leads to another, so a sense of linear time, but in reality there is no linear time at all.

We're infinite beings, though not infinitely on each level of upgrade, and all things are infinite energies, though again, not always as they are, for universes are recycled.

We're in a system of infinity. There is a potential infinity within a grain of sand, and this universe could be an infinite inwards universe laying on a beach somewhere, and infinity cannot be measured. It is the same equal endless volume of infinity if it were within a grain of sand, as it would be within the "largest" star, as it would be outside of both of these. Your soul is infinite in size and volume, as well. If you place a dot on an infinite line, or in a landscape of infinite fractals, and tried to take a measurement, a percentage of infinity, you would find that the very same, = endless volume of infinity is in every direction from you placement. If you move the dot, exactly the same thing.

Time is a program in our heads, which is akin to saying a computer program that corporal suits are subject to, that relate to a planets particular orbit around a said star.

Mars does not have the same time program around the star as earth, so those from mars could be easily stealthed from us.

Because if you programmed a bot, or person's body suit, to experience time differently. For example, his day would take 15 minutes of yours say, then to him, you would disappear from sight, but to you, he would be moving in slow mode, or standing still, and getting reports on his progress would be like reading a a magazine with stationary pictures.

Even in our universe Hubble shows that stars are extremely varied in size.

The universe is NOT ONE SPACE TIME FABRIC, like science suggests. It is a COLLAGE of iinterwoven time-zones, and frequency zones, so a huge cosmic soup. Once you leave earth's orbit, in a sense you're entering No Time, though if you have a watch on you're still clocking your sense of it.

In No Time, your life is like an infinite roll of film, with all the scenes or clips infinite moments, that your Future Self (we often call this Higher Self) or others, could revisit or return to or watch, akin to watching an old Earth time DVD on the shelf.

There is no linear time, all your lifetimes and lessons and activities are parallel, occuring at the same time, as facets on the face of your infinite soul.

You are the DVD player playing the dvd's of this universe and the infinite universe is within you. There is nothing solid around us except as energy waves. Call it a matrix or a dream school, but our mind erects the signals and makes it real.

You're entering a story, and that story already took place, already had an ending, you cannot change the main outcomes, but you can change how you do the story, color the pages your way, and you can help free souls from it.

For the infinities nestled within each other, Horton Hears A Who.

For changing the coloring page, by your choices of colors, the movie Groundhog Day. Infinity like a circle until we make it a progression, spiral.

Until the sliver/facet of Soul, thought that is us, matches or alligns with the Greater aspect of Soul that is outside the universe, we can't go back home, so we need to become Love, Goodness and Equality,

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Ha I have seen your profile picture and a similar post on dmt nexus....would explain how this question came about I suppose.

measurement is a basis for the concept of order.

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I see a lot of people responding to this post who cannot seem to understand their true place in the universe. The reason people seem to believe in time is they are only realizing a small slice of their existence. In reality, the universe is a singularity. Meaning we are and occupy all points - we are one.

Time only exists if you choose to believe it exists.

If the Babylonians had an extra finger on their hand, we'd be measuring time and degrees much differently

Originally posted by straddlebug
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I see a lot of people responding to this post who cannot seem to understand their true place in the universe. The reason people seem to believe in time is they are only realizing a small slice of their existence. In reality, the universe is a singularity. Meaning we are and occupy all points - we are one.

edit on 8-6-2012 by straddlebug because: (no reason given)

How were you able to realize the whole pie of your existence?

If we were one, we would be.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

The 'you' you think you are is only based on time. The 'you' you really are is timeless and spaceless.

Perfect. Find out who you were before 'you' became, this is who you are and who you will be even after 'you' have disappeared.

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You can try to ignore time, but time is simply the measurement of change, and change cannot be ignored.

Originally posted by Th0r
So i'm on a 19 hour bus ride and started to think about the concept of time and why many philosophers refer to time as an illusion... let's see does a human baby have a concept of time? does a human baby have a conscious mind? does a 2 year old have a concept of time? does a 2 year old have a conscious mind? What if we raise children without a concept of time? 

What if with our technology we created an almost self suficiant utopian world with out concept of time? can you imagine? 

i can. 

Mayan calendar ending 21st Dec 2012 might not be the end of the world it just might be the end of time.

Thoughts? Comments? 

Love you all. 

So how do you propose we just 'forget' about the concept of time then?

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When you can physically eliminate (and not just effectively arguing against the notion of) NOW and THEN, along with the physical ramifications of what was NOW and has since become THEN, then you can eliminate time. Until then, you can dismiss the idea of time, again and again (ironically enough); as if it makes sense to think that you can dismiss it now, and dismiss it again when the discussion comes up in the future. As if that fact doesn't prove the existence of time in itself.

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope

Originally posted by straddlebug
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I see a lot of people responding to this post who cannot seem to understand their true place in the universe. The reason people seem to believe in time is they are only realizing a small slice of their existence. In reality, the universe is a singularity. Meaning we are and occupy all points - we are one.

edit on 8-6-2012 by straddlebug because: (no reason given)

How were you able to realize the whole pie of your existence?

I may check back to see how this question is addressed. I'm hoping for more than a limerick or a YouTube video link.