So i'm on a 19 hour bus ride and started to think about the concept of time and why many philosophers refer to time as an illusion... let's see does a human baby have a concept of time? does a human baby have a conscious mind? does a 2 year old have a concept of time? does a 2 year old have a conscious mind? What if we raise children without a concept of time? 

What if with our technology we created an almost self suficiant utopian world with out concept of time? can you imagine? 

i can. 

Mayan calendar ending 21st Dec 2012 might not be the end of the world it just might be the end of time.

Thoughts? Comments? 

Love you all. 

Clock time was invented to as a means of control. How would you get to work without a watch?
Imagine a world without any alarm clocks.

Where you are it is always now. So you are actually timeless. You do not move through time, time appears to happen but really it is the image in front of you that is changing. You as the witness of change doesn't change. The image will constantly change but your presence is needed to see the changes.
Impermanence can only be known by that which is permanent.

We don't have to conform to the concept of time we currently use. We are free with every breath we take to change any and all of our perceptions and the perspective from which we view it. We are free to reshape every concept our forefathers have conceived. We choose to accept these things as it gives us some warm and fuzzy feeling to live within a comfort zone that was very likely prescribed to us rather than being consciously chosen.

My daughter, though she is now 21 years of age, still has trouble with the concept of time. She has never understood it and probably never will. She now wears a watch for the first time in her life. It's a sort of chunky Seiko I had when I was doing office work and time was a rather important feature of each day. The funny thing is that I can't wear it. Watches stop working within two weeks when I wear them. The particular watch she uses has a perpetual calendar in it. When I wore it, I could go to bed on the 5th and wake up on the 21st. By noon it would be the 10th and two hours later it could be the 1st. It was sent to be repaired a dozen times in the three years I tried to use it. Each time they said there was nothing wrong with it. My daughter has been wearing it with no problems whatsoever for more than half a year now.

We also live in a place where the sun doesn't show itself for more than a few hours per day in the dead of winter and conversely in the summertime it "sets" only briefly. Our time is not even up here. It's not regular like more equatorial regions. The perception of time is best left to the body experiencing it. We might stay in better touch with our being if we slept when we needed to and not on some artificial schedule. If we ate only when, what and as much as we needed, we could eliminate a whole host of problems with our health. If we gave in to the whims of our nature (after we have achieved better balance than we currently experience now) in these ways, we would probably live lives of considerably higher quality. We would probably find ourselves improved on many levels.

With time comes age without it we could technically live forever, there would be nothing but the present. The way it was orignally intended to be.

I think we are already in a world without time, meaning eternity. The end of the Mayan calendar only points to the end of time, not the end of us. Fukishima was most likely the final sign. Put your drinks up and smoke if you got em, God is good and we will have eternity to let this sink in lol.

Everything that is seen has a beginning and an end. It appears and then disappears. Every time you blink your eyes the image before you disappears and then appears different, even if you don't blink, notice the sounds that you hear appear and disappear. The sensations, the thoughts, the appearance of your body, are all changing. It is not time that does this.
Sound does not come from the past. Sound comes out of now, just like color is also appearing now.

Now is what there is. Presence is what there is and presence always looks different.