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Originally posted by 29INFDIV
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Born in 1982, and nothing will break away my faith, nor my childrens faith.
29INFDIV
Originally posted by racasan
Well perhaps you missed the part where I said I don’t believe any of that
Do you have any kind of evidence or reasoning that doesn’t require me to be a christian all ready or need some sort of Christian decoder ring to work out what you're talking about ?
Originally posted by Annee
Yes! There are. Lack of belief in god/deity is the only requirement.
Lack of Belief is the correct definition.
If there is a "belief" it is individual and determined by the individual - - - that belief would lack belief in a god/deity.
Muslims believe in a God.
Originally posted by satron
You think two people sitting next to each other in the pews have the same exact beliefs? They don't. Religious people can have different reasons for their belief just like atheists.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by 29INFDIV
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Born in 1982, and nothing will break away my faith, nor my childrens faith.
29INFDIV
Born in 1946.
I once made the same statement.
Now Atheist.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by satron
You think two people sitting next to each other in the pews have the same exact beliefs? They don't. Religious people can have different reasons for their belief just like atheists.
The belief itself has a written doctrine for the group to follow.
There is no such thing as an atheist doctrine.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
How could a person have a closed mind about the existence of a supreme being? Wouldn't the only intellectually honest position be - I don't know?
How do they know there's no God, that's what I'd like to know. They must have unsurpassed genius to make such a claim with utter certainty.
Originally posted by satron
There's only atheists. Atheists are atheists.
Lack of Belief is the correct definition.
You are of the same mind as my desk I'm sitting at. Interesting.
If there is a "belief" it is individual and determined by the individual - - - that belief would lack belief in a god/deity.
Originally posted by racasan
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Carbon? – this is that 666 thingy christians believe has some significance?
Then you go on the mention Genesis and then revelation - riiiight
Well perhaps you missed the part where I said I don’t believe any of that
Do you have any kind of evidence or reasoning that doesn’t require me to be a christian all ready or need some sort of Christian decoder ring to work out what you're talking about ?
Truth is in the Word.
Originally posted by satron
Oh yeah? If I asked everyone what a true Christian was, how many response do you think I'd get?
We define "Christian" as follows:
We accept as Christian any individual or group who devoutly, thoughtfully, seriously, and prayerfully regards themselves to be Christian. That is, they honestly believe that they follow Yeshua of Nazareth's (a.k.a. Jesus Christ's) teachings as they understand them to be. www.religioustolerance.org...
If atheists have a philosophy like you say, then how can they apply themselves to it, it there is no such thing as an atheist doctrine?
You realize what you're saying doesn't make sense? I've asked this question to you before, and I think it needs to be raised again.
Originally posted by Bixxi3
reply to post by Annee
Note to go so OT but what I meant when asking that question was
if Atheism basically means agnostic then what cause such a big misinterpretation of what atheist means that seems so prevalent in many people who call themself atheist.
is it purely ignorance and bad information?
If that makes sense
Agnosticism is not a creed but a method, the essence of which lies in the vigorous application of a single principle. Positively the principle may be expressed as, in matters of the intellect, follow your reason as far as it can carry you without other considerations. And negatively, in matters of the intellect, do not pretend the conclusions are certain that are not demonstrated or demonstrable. It is wrong for a man to say he is certain of the objective truth of a proposition unless he can produce evidence which logically justifies that certainty. atheists.org...
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Truth is in the Word.
Originally posted by satron
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
How could a person have a closed mind about the existence of a supreme being? Wouldn't the only intellectually honest position be - I don't know?
How do they know there's no God, that's what I'd like to know. They must have unsurpassed genius to make such a claim with utter certainty.
The only people that have a closed mind about the existence of a supreme being are infants, Tarzan, Fred Flintstone, my carpet, and keyboard, and this broken guitar string.
You're right, if they do know, then they are hiding something very heavy from all of us.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by satron
There are no such things as hard/soft, negative/positive atheists.
Yes! There are. Lack of belief in god/deity is the only requirement.
You not liking the answer is not my problem.
Your definition of atheism - lack of belief in a god/deity - is deceptive, because it doesn't demonstrate what IS believed, which is that God doesn't exist.
Lack of Belief is the correct definition.
If there is a "belief" it is individual and determined by the individual - - - that belief would lack belief in a god/deity.
God can not be proven or dis-proven. It is incorrect to state God does not exist.
It's like saying "A Muslim is someone that doesn't believe in Christianity"
Muslims believe in a God.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
He can't be seen. He can be known. You can be seen and known.