Anonymous might actually have some decent info...., page 1


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Topic started on 14-5-2012 @ 07:48 AM by robhines
There's an interview I just found a link to that's between a journalist and someone called Christopher Doyon, an American member of Anon that went over to Canada as a fugitive to avoid an over the top trail and possible sentence. The interview linked will explain enough about who he is and his situation anyway, but this part is amazing if true :

Q. What’s next for Anonymous?
A: Right now we have access to every classified database in the U.S. government. It’s a matter of when we leak the contents of those databases, not if. You know how we got access? We didn’t hack them. The access was given to us by the people who run the systems. The five-star general (and) the Secretary of Defence who sit in the cushy plush offices at the top of the Pentagon don’t run anything anymore. It’s the pimply-faced kid in the basement who controls the whole game, and Bradley Manning proved that. The fact he had the 250,000 cables that were released effectively cut the power of the U.S. State Department in half. The Afghan war diaries and the Iran war diaries effectively cut the political clout of the U.S. Department of Defence in half. All because of one guy who had enough balls to slip a CD in an envelope and mail it to somebody.

Now people are leaking to Anonymous and they’re not coming to us with this document or that document or a CD, they’re coming to us with keys to the kingdom, they’re giving us the passwords and usernames to whole secure databases that we now have free reign over. … The world needs to be concerned.


Source : Insider tells why Anonymous ‘might well be the most powerful organization on Earth’

We're due for some crazy stuff going down if this is true. Am obviously wondering what they've got related to this area, if anything, but if they have got info it's probably assured that we'll find out as time passes. I just hope he stays safe and gets out of Canada if things start looking dodgy.

So what do you think?


reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 08:09 AM by The Sword
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Sounds too good to be true.

Anonymous? More powerful than the CIA, KGB and M15 combined?


reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 08:09 AM by miniatus
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The problem with Anonymous is there is no leader, there is no "group" ... they come in two main flavors .. the sub-groups that form from the dark underbelly of the net in chatrooms.. those are the hacker geeks that gather and plan things.. A lot of them come and go.. there's no leadership structure, just people who group up .. sometimes it's just one person, could be 5 .. Some people will take part in something and never take part again, some may take part in as much as they can do .. especially if they are passionate about a particular topic.

The second are the trolls .. or wannabes.. I tend to think the Anonymous alien videos probably fit into that latter group.. it seemed not very well done, and didn't stick to the normal feel of "anonymous" .. it just felt completely off like some young kid decided to screw with people to get hits on youtube.

You also have to ask yourself this... lets say I'm some guy who's an admin for super top secret information .. how do I know who to contact to give that information to? .. it's not like Anonymous has an address, or contact information for that matter.. there's no one person in charge of the PR department .. I don't know.. sounds fishy! .. until I start seeing some information coming out, I'm going to stay skeptical of the claims.. and no I don't think THIS interview is related to the alien videos in any way..

Anonymous is an idea, it's not an organization.. there's no president or leadership structure.. no constant membership, it's fluid.
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reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 08:34 AM by robhines
Originally posted by miniatus
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The problem with Anonymous is there is no leader, there is no "group" ... they come in two main flavors .. the sub-groups that form from the dark underbelly of the net in chatrooms.. those are the hacker geeks that gather and plan things.. A lot of them come and go.. there's no leadership structure, just people who group up .. sometimes it's just one person, could be 5 .. Some people will take part in something and never take part again, some may take part in as much as they can do .. especially if they are passionate about a particular topic.

The second are the trolls .. or wannabes.. I tend to think the Anonymous alien videos probably fit into that latter group.. it seemed not very well done, and didn't stick to the normal feel of "anonymous" .. it just felt completely off like some young kid decided to screw with people to get hits on youtube.

You also have to ask yourself this... lets say I'm some guy who's an admin for super top secret information .. how do I know who to contact to give that information to? .. it's not like Anonymous has an address, or contact information for that matter.. there's no one person in charge of the PR department .. I don't know.. sounds fishy! .. until I start seeing some information coming out, I'm going to stay skeptical of the claims.. and no I don't think THIS interview is related to the alien videos in any way..

Anonymous is an idea, it's not an organization.. there's no president or leadership structure.. no constant membership, it's fluid.
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Yeah I get what they're about to a decent degree, have researched them and also protested with them in the past too (offline.) so I know a bit about how they operate. Some of them will have a lot of connections though, and I just hope they use them wisely and stay as safe as they can do.
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reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 08:42 AM by Wrabbit2000
Well, I note they reference Julian Assange. He's not Anon and he's delivered. I can't recall something he said he'd do that he didn't, actually. Anon on the other hand, has threats or decrees coming from every goober with a keyboard and a cause to use the name. I'd love this to be true...but I have an obvious question. Why would he brag about this if it were true? He's not saying they raped the databases and are sitting on the files. He's saying they HAVE ..currently..HAVE access. I'd move that to the past tense in short order after that interview.

If TPTB believe that statement, they'd cut their own nose off their face to stop the leaks. That means to me, if they have to change everything, they'd do it. Someone with access to things like they claim would know that by reading about other instances by now. You'd think they'd know better than anyone that bragging before the deed is already done is just suicidal.

I'd also note something else. He's not being real specific about things on who they have access to. Following the death of the Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko, I recall reading in papers that the Russians were working to pass a law clearing them to kill 'traitors' (read: critics and dissidents) inside and outside of the Russian Federation. It'll be interesting to see what happens for testing that if he's openly saying these things and someone actually takes him at his word for having that capability.


reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 08:53 AM by steelwidow
Originally posted by miniatus
reply to post by robhines


Anonymous is an idea, it's not an organization.. there's no president or leadership structure.. no constant membership, it's fluid.
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Well said... fluid indeed!


reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 10:08 AM by purplemer
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The problem with Anonymous is there is no leader


Its not a problem.. They are all leaders...


reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 10:09 AM by StringTh
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Wikileaks and Anon are partners. They work together and not on their own.

____________________________

All this talk about a leadership-less organization is just naive. Its network is free to join for any1 that really brings something to their plate, but trust me, there is most certainly a leadership in place.

StringTh
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reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 10:35 AM by nightbringr
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by miniatus




The problem with Anonymous is there is no leader


Its not a problem.. They are all leaders...


Which is an organizational nightmare for any kind of movement.

Again, all this means is the most immature, spoiled brat with a hate on for all society has as much authority as a well organized, focused individual who actually has mankinds best intentions at heart.

Anon frightens me more than the most corrupt government out there.


reply posted on 14-5-2012 @ 10:53 AM by purplemer
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Which is an organizational nightmare for any kind of movement.

What makes you think Anon is composed immature, spoiled brat with a hate on for all society... Really its a type of on-line democracy in which peeps can choose to partake in operations or not... If you want to trust your government more go ahead. The governments have been bought out by the bankers..

Iit is not a nightmare. It is a lesson well learnt. Activism in the late 80s and 90s got infiltrated by government and leaders harassed or arrested. Now there is a beast with many heads and the left hand knows not what the right hand is doing. It is social evolution...
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