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Originally posted by Enemyc0mbatant
Ok... I'm only writing this thread to put the op in his place for asking such a dumb question. If eating meat is ethical. Back in the hay day around ten thousand years ago, there were hunters and there were gatherers. And all throughout history, there were people who enjoyed eating meat. Meat has been on the menu since the dawn of man and will continue to be on the menu until the fall of man. However... I do totally agree with the Muslim way of slaughtering animals. They bless and thank the animal for the sacrifice it is about to make in order to fill the stomachs of the populace. I personally think the rest of humanity needs to adopt this concept.
The WHO protein figures translate into 56g of protein a day for a (75kg) man, and 48g for a (64kg) woman. The recommendations of the UK Department of Health and Social Security (DHSS) are slightly higher, at about 68g a day for sedentary or moderately active men, and 54g a day for women (2). Both these official recommendations suggest that eating 10% of our daily energy as protein will provide an adequate amount. The NACNE report (3) proposes a protein intake of 11%. National and international recommendations for protein intake are based on animal sources of protein such as meat, cow's milk and eggs. Plant proteins may be less digestible because of intrinsic differences in the nature of the protein and the presence of other factors such as fibre, which may reduce protein digestibility by as much as 10%. Nevertheless, dietary studies show the adequacy of plant foods, as sole sources of protein (see Combining Proteins below), as does the experience of healthy vegans of all ages.
The level of Immunoglobulin A (IgA) in breast milk remains high from day 10 until at least 7.5 months post-partum. Human milk contains 0.8% to 0.9% protein, 4.5% fat, 7.1% carbohydrates, and 0.2% ash (minerals). Carbohydrates are mainly lactose; several lactose-based oligosaccharides have been identified as minor components. The fat fraction contains specific triglycerides of palmitic and oleic acid (O-P-O triglycerides), and also quite a large quantity of lipids with trans bonds (see: trans fat) that are considered to have a health benefit. They are vaccenic acid, and Conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) accounting for up to 6% of the human milk fat.
Originally posted by Shagga
The last thing you want in a survival situation is to vomit, it dehydrates you and causes you to starve quicker, yet how would a vegan collect the plants they need to survive?? Most Vegans have no idea what plants are ok to eat and what is toxic, not only that but by the time you collect enough food you would have used a substantial amount of calories that is almost impossible to regain on plants alone..
reply to post by QQXXw
Personally I would eat anything to survive, but given the choice I would pay a price premium for free range or wild meat
It's not about Ethics... It's about evolution and survival. We wouldn't be the people we are today without the vitamins we gained from eating meat.
Whether it is right to eat animals in the first place, at least when human survival is not at stake.
Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Ericthenewbie
I'd like to remind the VEGANS that not eating meat makes your brain shrink, proven scientific fact. So in reference to your question I eat meat to support the high protein content of my body and when something else can sufficiently do that... which soy and other vegetables can't since the composition isn't the same, maybe just maybe I'll get on board.
A number of reliable vegan food sources for vitamin B12 are known. One brand of nutritional yeast, Red Star T-6635+, has been tested and shown to contain active vitamin B12. This brand of yeast is often labeled as Vegetarian Support Formula with or without T-6635+ in parentheses following this new name. It is a reliable source of vitamin B12. Nutritional yeast, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, is a food yeast, grown on a molasses solution, which comes as yellow flakes or powder. It has a cheesy taste. Nutritional yeast is different from brewer’s yeast or torula yeast. those sensitive to other yeasts can often use it.
The RDA for adults for vitamin B12 is 2.4 micrograms daily (1). About 2 rounded teaspoons of large flake Vegetarian Support Formula (Red Star T-6635+) nutritional yeast provides the recommended amount of vitamin B12 for adults (2).
It is not meat persay that is the issue, rather it is a lack of B-12.
Vegans can get B-12 from nutritional yeast.