I Am A Little Angry Right Now At Obama Supporters

reply to post by khimbar


Homemade analogy. 100% organic.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Of course, the possibility always exists that you might end up being right, that Rand Paul will be the savior that Obama couldn't be. You might be right that Romney will "slow down" the fall of this country. But do you really, in your heart of hearts, believe that Romney or Paul would have any real control over that? You're basically painting a picture of America where there's a faction of evildoers made up of the rich and powerful who are trying to bring us down, and assuming that Romney----with his 250 million+ dollars and his decades of back-room deals cutting up companies and burning them at the stake-----is going to fight against them, single-handedly, against his own personal interest. You're actually arguing that Romney is a good guy in this equation? May I suggest, perhaps, you're one of the people holding on to hope that this political situation can work out, just like the Obama supporters holding on to the hope that he is going to make it right? What makes your hope any less misguided and naive than theirs? You have proof that Romney is not only willing to enact socialist programs but will also be a cheerleader of them. Where is your proof that he won't do the same if he's POTUS?

I think the biggest problem Obama has had in office is that his policies are a little too Socialistic even for some Democrats to swallow and that is why he had so much opposition even in a democratically controlled house.

On the same note I think the reason Bush and Obama have so much trouble with passing things is because the other party always does anything and everything to counteract anything the president of the other party pushes through. In this respect then yes they do have a resemblence to puppets as it was put earlier.

The sad truth of it all is that there were times when Bush Jr put forth more effort to get things done whether the opposition liked it or not that he actually made it happen. I haven't seen Obama pull something like that yet. Though being a sitting president through a national tragedy like 9/11 will help your popularity signifigantly as well.

However, I agree with the OP I truly don't understand how people can still have faith in Obama. The man has done nothing signifigant and he has done very little to improve he economy. They keep saying the economy is on the rebound, but then they lay off thousands of people at Yahoo and one other company that doesn't come to mind at the moment. No one in my organization has had a raise in almost 4yrs, and food and gas keep going up and up. Sure he got us out of Iraq, but seems to be chomping at the bit to get us into another conflict despite the anti-war sentiment in the majorify of America. So I truly cannot fathom why anyone still likes Obama. He changed nothing nor did he keep any of his promises other then the Obamacare crap which was a dumb move in the first place imho.

As for the next presidential election. I am making a prediction Hillary Rodham Clinton vs Female and/or Ethnic Republican candidate in 2016. Romney has no chance

reply to post by swan001


Blaine is totally correct, in my mind. Have you noticed throughout history there are always the slave masters, and by that I mean there is always a ruling class that seem to just exist depending on when you were born on the timeline. Understanding that humans naturally become corrupt as they gain more and more power is the basis of our constitution. It may not be perfect, but it is the reasoning behind the different branches of government or the seperation of powers.

I believe in conspiracies as much as the next guy on here, but I still believe our government is the ultimate power in this country. The plutocracy operates through it in order to get all it's power. If the government and politicians weren't the real power, why would all those giant corporations and the financial terrorists constantly be buying them out every single year? The plutocracy wouldn't care about our politicians if they actually had all the power. They rely on congress granting them their wishes in order to get away with all the theft and corruption. I really like the word plutocracy because it denotes a complex system of multiple parties all vying for power. It's pretty accurate in describing America, even from the very birth of the nation. Corporations have been buying our government for hundreds of years. Just look at the railroads for a little refresher. Nothing Ayn-Randian altruistic about it or some mythical capitalist love story. They bought the government in order to get their subsidies and special treatment. They lobbied to basically fix the market in their favor, and every single family dynasty like the DuPont's, Rockefellars, or companies like GoldmanSachs could not have gotten as big as they are without the government giving them unfair advantages and letting them get away with fraud and damaging processes. They are just crooks who can't exist in a real democracy. I see no reason why the government isn't still the ultimate ruling power. Just my point of view on the matter. Sorry the post is a bit off-topic, but I wanted to respond to what you said.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I think actual numbers are helpful..

President Obama talks to the White House press corps far fewer than his predecessors, but he gives more interviews to a variety of folks, ranging from news anchors to late-night comedians to members of the public via social media.

This is the conclusion of a study of such interactions by political science professor Martha Kumar of Towson University. Kumar studies how White Houses interact with the media; her numbers were first reported by The Hill earlier this week.

Kumar says that President Obama has held 17 solo White House news conferences at the White House so far, more than President George W. Bush (11) at this point in his presidency, but fewer than President Bill Clinton (31), President George H.W. Bush (56), and President Reagan (21).

The total of solo press conferences he’s had anywhere — such as on foreign soil after a summit – is 29. George W. Bush’s total is 11 — he didn’t hold any solo press conferences outside the White House up to this point. Bill Clinton held 40 solo press conferences in his first three years; George H.W. Bush held 72; Reagan held 21.

President Obama has been far more reluctant to engage in impromptu back and forth with reporters, at photo sprays and the like. President Obama has taken questions at 94 such events.

For Bush Jr. that number was 307; for Bill Clinton, 493; for Bush Sr., 263; for Reagan 120.

Mr. Obama has given more interviews: 408. His predecessor at this point had given 136 interviews, while Bill Clinton had given 166. Reagan gave 164. (Numbers for George H.W. Bush are still being researched.)

As Brian Stelter of the New York Times points out Mr. Obama’s interviews have been with myriad inquisitors, from ABC News World News anchor Diane Sawyer last week to users of Google+ this week. Mr. Obama was the first sitting president to come on “The Tonight Show,” for instance.

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I truly believe he is trying to appeal to the lowest common demoninator ...dumb.

reply to post by Blaine91555



STAR!!

Give me a politician who does not need a party of gangsters to tell him which way the wind blows and what he believes in.

Give me a politician who stands on his own two feet and makes up his own mind.

Give me a politician who is not beholding to corporate shysters for his election.

Give me a politician who represents the people instead of ruling over them.

Give me a politician who loves America more than he loves power and money.

Originally posted by Germanicus

reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

Malcom X would tear him a new one.

Anyone that votes for Obama is a chump and a traitor.

Malcolm hated Democrats and he saw them for what they are.

edit on 26-4-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

I have never liked you. . Alan you’re a ungodly democrat and umm, your choices for democrats that you support are.. you’re are just a total. kicking the bronze globe of the Vatican up the stairs.

Where is the dialogue in this country? How about Glass-Steagall, maybe there is something to the parties all being the same, selling themselves out to the highest bidder.

Originally posted by Phantom28804

On the same note I think the reason Bush and Obama have so much trouble with passing things is because the other party always does anything and everything to counteract anything the president of the other party pushes through. In this respect then yes they do have a resemblence to puppets as it was put earlier.

As for the next presidential election. I am making a prediction Hillary Rodham Clinton vs Female and/or Ethnic Republican candidate in 2016. Romney has no chance

Wouldn't matter, Sarah palin or Hugo Chávez for president our government has gone dark. “A plague on both your houses. The insane derivatives bubble is what blew up the global financial system, bankrupted the U.S. banmks. Remove the corn from the cob and throw the cob away so we can have an efficient and more human and truthful means of self-government (Blot up the excess polish.)

This guy is like an international mobster

Yeah, whatever. I don't care if someone somewhere is asking Obama tough questions, I can read about his policies and actions anytime day or night online, so why do I need to see someone interviewing him antagonistically?

reply to post by ModernAcademia


ModernAcademia, I feel your frustration in your post, now keep an open mind to what I am about to say.



Modern Presidents and presidential candidates, are not longer the fatherly figure and pose that we were thought through history to be, like Washington, Jefferson or Lincoln.

Those where the true leaders.

What we have right now is nothing but impostors, the true power that runs this nation is no in this impostors hands.

They are like actors, novelty, to be look at, laugh at, they are groomed to be charismatic, appealing, to do propaganda to make the people "think" that they have a good candidate depending of political affiliations.

This impostors and Hollywood type of actors are here to make you feel cozy, welcome and wanted they are to make you feel that your vote count, that they are what you want.

But deep inside ModernAcadamia, you know the truth, that is why you feel so angry and frustrated.

We the people have been taken for a ride by those that runs our nation behind the actors.

Politics has always been an art of lying. They are so practiced at it that they believe themselves. If you step back and really look at the big picture though you can see a big difference. Our current situation is an administration that is cheering the collapse of our economy and using the increased percentage of poor as a vote for the Democrats because they promise them entitlements. Buying the vote.
If you look at the other side they promise an American comeback in the economy and jobs. You either believe Obama will fix the economy in the next 4 years and save America, or that the entitlements can't be sustained and America will fall. Personally i think Romney has the business experience required to get America back to work and Obama is just enlarging the democrat base by destroying our economy. What any President will actually do once in office is unknown. Obama did not do what he said he would do. They both lie, i just don't see Obama making America better. His biggest mistake was not fixing the economy first when he had Congress. That should have been job one. He surrounded himself with inept people. Big mistake. You are the company you keep.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Obama is funded pretty generously by George Soros. Numerous threads on here about him, one has his Carlyle group buying out America gun manufacturers. So he is with the scope of taking down our freedoms and civil liberties. I liked Bill Clinton until I just read he was headlining an event that George Soros was at to donor money for Obama's campaign. And that lying facet is there, a billionare like Soros gives millions for Obama, but is appalled by the Romney campaign which is openly soliciting the money of the rich to starve the state of the money it needs to provide social services. Soros sent Jews to concentration camps during World War II, he knows how to work the lies, and he starved Malaysia's economy with speculation the Soros "Quantum fund" and broke the economy of the Ukraine with doing the pitting two sides against each other. You've got like negative 101, He is a crook and a scoundrel billionaires can be crooks and get away with it without getting punished. But then have the depleted consciousness to say the other side are crooks and scoundrels.

Obama, obviously the enemy of civilization: not qualified.

Funny (or sad). Someone digs up an old thread (5 months old), and Obama is still doing the same thing. He 'doesn't have time' to meet with world leaders who are on the brink of war .. but he has time to go sit on 'the view' to be 'eye candy' (his self description) and to chat it up with Whoopi Goldberg.

So .. 5 months later ... nothing has changed.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


You are exactly right. Obama supporters explain away all his actions and excuse everything saying he inherited such and such and can't be expected to fix it all in one term.....blah blah blah blah blah

I don't get it either.

Hes a criminal. War criminal with a kill list.


How anyone can support him, beats me.

Originally posted by CB328

This guy is like an international mobster

Yeah, whatever. I don't care if someone somewhere is asking Obama tough questions, I can read about his policies and actions anytime day or night online, so why do I need to see someone interviewing him antagonistically?

Or how about just interviewing him objectively without an agenda?

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

I think actual numbers are helpful..

President Obama talks to the White House press corps far fewer than his predecessors, but he gives more interviews to a variety of folks, ranging from news anchors to late-night comedians to members of the public via social media.

This is the conclusion of a study of such interactions by political science professor Martha Kumar of Towson University. Kumar studies how White Houses interact with the media; her numbers were first reported by The Hill earlier this week.

Kumar says that President Obama has held 17 solo White House news conferences at the White House so far, more than President George W. Bush (11) at this point in his presidency, but fewer than President Bill Clinton (31), President George H.W. Bush (56), and President Reagan (21).

The total of solo press conferences he’s had anywhere — such as on foreign soil after a summit – is 29. George W. Bush’s total is 11 — he didn’t hold any solo press conferences outside the White House up to this point. Bill Clinton held 40 solo press conferences in his first three years; George H.W. Bush held 72; Reagan held 21.

President Obama has been far more reluctant to engage in impromptu back and forth with reporters, at photo sprays and the like. President Obama has taken questions at 94 such events.

For Bush Jr. that number was 307; for Bill Clinton, 493; for Bush Sr., 263; for Reagan 120.

Mr. Obama has given more interviews: 408. His predecessor at this point had given 136 interviews, while Bill Clinton had given 166. Reagan gave 164. (Numbers for George H.W. Bush are still being researched.)

As Brian Stelter of the New York Times points out Mr. Obama’s interviews have been with myriad inquisitors, from ABC News World News anchor Diane Sawyer last week to users of Google+ this week. Mr. Obama was the first sitting president to come on “The Tonight Show,” for instance.

abcnews.go.com...

Talk about vulgar, open, out in the plain view of the world gross and arrogant, nasty and disgusting, that is babylon. The two parties are constantly conspiring against, and both against us. Busted.

No wonder all of our jobs are going overseas and people are lucky to get a job at a grocery store. And you have to give Mr. Obama gold star credit for cancelling the Space program. No one would have thought that is what the United States is going to have to do, bum rides to space from the Russians, eesh our former enemies. I can see that happening real well. The Russian Soyuz. Yup.

Pretty soon we'll have to outsource our dentist jobs because we don't know how to fix a tooth!

Things are bad when church elders and pastors are talking about the Jeremiah end times, when things are so discouraging in our system that two candidates we have are the best, and both are for war with Iran. Lincoln's earliest writings are more like biblical seems to talk about the system we have now.

I will believe the outrage in the OP when I see outrage developed over both parties. OP's message has one major glaring fault and that is giving the impression that a President Romney would be any better.

I see that if he were to win the very same people here will DEFEND the very same acts done by a President Romney they decry against President Obama. Anyone that was paying any attention to the last election cycle would have noticed the same shifts when another political party took "control"

Patriot Act, Warrant-less Wire Tapping, War, Rendition, Czar's, Executive Orders and the laundry list goes on and on. It is defensible up until the "other" guys are doing it. Then it is, "You shouldn't have anything to hide", if you don't like this nation you should leave, you are unpatriotic if you don't support the POTUS ESPECIALLY in a time of war. The same old crap gets run through the masses so they can chatter and argue and blame one another while the real hidden power behind the throne just makes sure those shackles are tighter, outright purchasing our government then ramming through laws not written by elected representatives vacuuming wealth straight out of wallets and partitioning off our commons for later sale.

WE THE PEOPLE are the government and in reality the most powerful force in our society yet we are lead to believe that it sucks and is a bad thing when in reality it is the only power we have against multinational interests and the corruption of nations.

Enemies foreign or domestic... Pffft.... we are overrun by BOTH.

For those talking about the next election, it's really going to be to late. Our economy is doomed, even the perfect candidate being elected this election could only somewhat contain the damage, and that is if he could get congress and the country to understand the dire state we are already in - which feels impossible.

I really think this is going to be the last election as we know it - whatever comes next I think will be radically different.
There is absolutely no way in hell they can keep the economy from collapsing for 4 more years - its practically a miracle Obama has made it through this term. Think about how people are going to react when their welfare, Social security and food stamp money dries up - it won't be pretty.

When the Fed says it is going to create 85 billion a month out of thin air for as long as it takes - and then people complain that is not enough. That should tell you all you need to know about how close to the edge we are now.