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Originally posted by guitarplayer
Originally posted by autowrench
Originally posted by guitarplayer
reply to post by autowrench
I for one am glad to see you have truly found out that it’s all a lie except that we all came from pond scum and to pond scum we will return. There is no higher self there is no God particle. Everything came out of chaos into order by its self, and everything will return to what it was. There is no spirit no soul. You are here for a short time and then you are gone forever to never be remembered. I am thankful that you have found this out and let us know how totally hopeless life is.
Friend, I must dispute you here, for that is not at all what I have discovered at all. All I really did is reinforce that which I already knew, but had no real way of convincing those who hold up the King James like it really is the words of the Creator that it really is something different....completely different.
There is a Spirit because I am a Spirit. I am, I know that I Am, so I am. I reside inside a human head for the time being, not by personal choice, be here, nonetheless. There are Higher Spirits, I have seen them. As for there being a God? I would say not as humans think of it, but the fact is, there lacks data either way. I have been told that I must have Faith, but I know what that means, and I believe what I can see, hear, and touch. I guess you could say I am a Deist when it comes to that. Also, I do agree about everything returning to it's original state, and Earth, this System, this Galaxy, has already done this before, three times that I know of, perhaps more. Everything runs in cycles in this universe, I am not certain how life is in universes other than our own.
How do you know you are a spirit? Any proof any pictures? I don't believe you, you have no proof. There is nothing afterlife, everything is a lie that has been spread by the PTB to keep you in chains. Spiritualism is the opiate of the masses. Ask any one in the scientific field and they will tell you there is no sprit no soul. You live you die that is it. Nothing else you have no proof that there is an afterlife or that life goes on after death.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by autowrench
Can't answer the one most important question ? Can't offer an alternate creation theory ? Within this one very important question rest the whole validity of your anti biblical position and process of logic .
Where did the aliens come from .
The winter solstice has been celebrated since ancient times. Throughout the centuries, the winter solstice has been celebrated with family gatherings, festivals, singing, dancing, and the burning of fires throughout this longest night of the year.
Look into the sky the night of the solstice, and you will see the three stars of Orion’s Belt aligned with the Sirius, the brightest star in the eastern sky, which points to where the Sun will rise in the morning.
Jacob's Rod or Staff; Peter's Staff; the Golden Yard-arm; the L, or Ell; the Ell and Yard; the Yard-stick, and the Yard-wand; the Ellwand; Our Lady's Wand; the Magi; the Three Kings; the Three Marys; or simply the Three Stars
1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
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9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by autowrench
Can't answer the one most important question ? Can't offer an alternate creation theory ? Within this one very important question rest the whole validity of your anti biblical position and process of logic .
I'd love to hear you inject the Biblical Creation story with some logic.
Clearly, you haven't read any of my posts, or you'd have already seen the Bible for exactly what it is...a temporary solution that has outworn its effectiveness.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by autowrench
Is that the best you could do? You actually read that all the way through ! Boy your really pulling at straws . Couldn't find science to deny creation by God as a superior being able to do the impossible ,
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by autowrench
Is that the best you could do? You actually read that all the way through ! Boy your really pulling at straws .
Couldn't find science to deny creation by God as a superior being able to do the impossible , so you try to pass off what ? What exactly is your point exactly ?
Do you hate the God of the bible so much that you would rather believe there are many gods . Neptune , Apollo, Venus.
I have also pondered the possibility that Yahweh did not want anyone to see his physical form because he was so extremely ugly and gross. Could Yahweh have been a Reptilian? After all, remember what Yahweh told Moses when Moses asked to see his face.....All Moses got to see was Yahweh's behind. could it be that Yahweh was a Reptilian, perhaps one of the Anunnaki, like Marduk? That would certainly explain why Yahweh refused Moses' request.
And whom has decided that the Sumerians tablets predate the biblical account .
Mesopotamian Eden predates Genesis
An example of a cylinder seal depicting a Garden of Eden story. A man and woman sitting under the seven branched Tree of Life. Note the snake on the right. Akkadian Cylinder Seal, 2330-2150 B.C.E.
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Virtually every human civilization in the Middle East, before and through Biblical times, practiced some form of female goddess worship. Archeologists have confirmed that the earliest law, government, medicine, agriculture, architecture, metallurgy, wheeled vehicles, ceramics, textiles and written language had initially developed in societies that worshiped the Goddess. Later the goddesses became more war-like with the influence of the northern invaders who slowly replaced the goddesses with their mountain male war gods. So why doesn't the Bible mention anything about the Goddess? In fact it does, but in disguise from converting the name of the goddesses to masculine terms. Many times "Gods" in the Bible refers to goddesses. Ashtoreth, or Asherah, named of masculine gender, for example, actually refers to Astarte- the Great Goddess. The Old Testament doesn't even have a word for Goddess. The goddesses, sometimes, refers to the Hebrew word "Elohim" (masculine plural form) which later religionists mistranslated into the singular "God." The Bible authors converted the ancient goddess symbols into icons of evil. As such, the snake, serpents, tree of knowledge, horns (of the bull), became associated with Satan. The end result gave women the status of inferiority, a result which we still see to this day.
There are a lot of areas of the bible that brings questions concerning the early times that we really don't need to know that is far beyond our pay grade .
We are in the image of the Father , Son (Lord) and the Holy Spirit . That is why they could never find the missing link .