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The Immigration conspiracy. Something IS happening!

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posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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reply to post by NancyNeedles
 


I believe you and I appreciate your honesty.

My parents are not Australian either. But they darn worked hard all their lives to bring up me and my two older brothers.

I am so tired of people calling Aussies racist or whatever...it is utter b-sh*t. Majority of Australians embrace multiculturalism!




posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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reply to post by DaMouse
 


no worries mate


i think it must be really frustrating to be called a racist because you object to immigrants enjoying a free ride at your (and my) expense.

people are forever crapping on about human rights - seems a lot have people have forgotten about their human responsibilities.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by DaMouse
reply to post by NancyNeedles
 


I believe you and I appreciate your honesty.

My parents are not Australian either. But they darn worked hard all their lives to bring up me and my two older brothers.

I am so tired of people calling Aussies racist or whatever...it is utter b-sh*t. Majority of Australians embrace multiculturalism!


Majority of Australians do not, the majority of Australians in this thread have demonstrated this very inconvenient fact. The majority of them always start off with the "I am not a racist but..." dribble

The fact of the matter is, if you are not a racist, accept others and their ways, if you do in fact embrace multiculturalism, than accept the fact that there are going to be people who will live within their own communities and will follow their own customs within the restrictions of the law. If those people do no wish to have anything to do with Australian culture, than they have every right to stick with whatever culture they are comfortable with.


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posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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Majority of Australians do not, the majority of Australians in this thread have demonstrated this very inconvenient fact. The majority of them always start off with the "I am not a racist but..." dribble

The fact of the matter is, if you are not a racist, accept others and their ways, if you do in fact embrace multiculturalism, than accept the fact that there are going to be people who will live within their own communities and will follow their own customs within the restrictions of the law. If those people do no wish to have anything to do with Australian culture, than they have every right to stick with whatever culture they are comfortable with.


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Not wanting immigrants, of any race or culture, to come to your country and leech off it's taxpayers does not make you racist.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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First of all I am also very suspicious about the sudden mass immigration. I am also a 'culturist', someone who doesn't care about skin colour but cares about clashing cultures.
With his in mind, if we who take immigrants in are all welcoming and go out of our way to make them feel welcome [which we are], then it is not us that are doing wrong. It is the immigrants who seem to disregard our values. Therefore should immigrants not be more polite and try everything they can to preserve our culture?
However they don't.
Where are the outraged people demanding more integration from our guests?
I had enough, you can't just mix people together and expect them to get along. And we are not even allowed to have discussions about it without being called bigots or racists. Meh.




posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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As i said, you complain about members providing old links, yet you do so yourself. Case closed on that matter


IN CONTEXT. But that's something that escapes people with dwindling intellect.


Again, i created this thread to highlight the Sudanese immigration problem, the money problem, and the fact that the Government is keeping it quiet. Most of this has nothing to do with skin colour. The only thing is, the Sudanese people get more money than other immigrants, and they are immigrating en masse. That is it, nothing racist, nothing discriminatory.


WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SUDAN RIGHT NOW? WHAT STAKES DOES AUSTRALIA HAVE IN SUDAN?

Damn it, maybe caps work with you people...otherwise ...good luck.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Well, you obviously are a racist since there are enough good examples to focus on, yet you focus your attention on the negative aspects. Either you're a depressive pessimist or you're a racist. Either way, it doesn't look good for you. Enjoy being a political toy



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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reply to post by NancyNeedles
 


For people ignorant of history I have the most pity. And I rarely pity anyone. Carry on, you will understand what I'm saying when your eyes are opened.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by NancyNeedles
 


For people ignorant of history I have the most pity. And I rarely pity anyone. Carry on, you will understand what I'm saying when your eyes are opened.


would you care to elaborate or are you just being contentious



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by NancyNeedles

Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by NancyNeedles
 


For people ignorant of history I have the most pity. And I rarely pity anyone. Carry on, you will understand what I'm saying when your eyes are opened.


would you care to elaborate or are you just being contentious


Knowing what I know I'll stick with what you perceive as contentious. All the best



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel

Originally posted by NancyNeedles

Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by NancyNeedles
 


For people ignorant of history I have the most pity. And I rarely pity anyone. Carry on, you will understand what I'm saying when your eyes are opened.


would you care to elaborate or are you just being contentious


Knowing what I know I'll stick with what you perceive as contentious. All the best


just trolling then huh



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by SecretFace
 


...are you being serious?

Go ahead, double the negative stats...no wait, quadruple them. And halve the positive stats. You'll see it's still being blown WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of proportion.


InfoKartel, reading through your posts you are someone that is sure that you stand for good and for what is right, even though it is all subjective when you stand by opinion (or so called factual stats) rather than fact. You shout racist whenever you can and believe truly what you say to be fact. What amazes me is that you seem to have no insight in to the effect that uncontrolled levels of immigration has. This leads me to assume, rightly or wrongly, that you do not work in such a position, or may be you don't work at all, may be you are a student, may be you are a foreigner yourself, may be in a realtionship with one. May be you live in an area where the reality of such conditions are non-existent. May be I am wrong and you are just completely ignorant of the real world in which many of us live. Either way, this is not about race, this is about sustainability. I see public services in chaos, housing shortage, NHS and Police falling apart and an ever increase in people coming here, many who do not have any intention to contribute or be anything other than from their country of origin. When the SHTF, these people can head home, we can't.

I never believe a published stat, ever. I have seen first hand the manipulation of stats and data to create the required result. You think its way out of proportion? What evidence do you have to suggest this? As I said, without giving too much away of my current and past occupations, I have seen raw data and the published results and believe me when I say that what is published is simply an electorate friendly version.

I certainly don't blame the people that come here, it is in no way their fault. I blame the government and although due to the spread of immigration, more and more are waking up, I fear its too late for Britain. If you all knew exactly the extent of damage that this has done, the majority of British people would become far right over night. There is no benefit from this, not for the average working Brit, only for major share holders that exploit this and encourages such conditions for the sake of profit.

I don't believe what I read, but I beleive what I have seen, what I have lived through and what I have experienced from which what I know to be fact. InfoKartel I admire your conviction, but I can never believe you opinion as it is totally contrary to my facts.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by daaskapital
 


Again, i created this thread to highlight the Sudanese immigration problem, the money problem, and the fact that the Government is keeping it quiet. Most of this has nothing to do with skin colour. The only thing is, the Sudanese people get more money than other immigrants, and they are immigrating en masse. That is it, nothing racist, nothing discriminatory.


WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SUDAN RIGHT NOW? WHAT STAKES DOES AUSTRALIA HAVE IN SUDAN?

Damn it, maybe caps work with you people...otherwise ...good luck.


If you wish to conduct yourself on the same level of maturity as us on this thread, then you should stop spouting the race card everywhere. You obviously have not been subject to these situations, in which are occuring internationally. As for what stakes Australia has in Sudan - i wouldn't know as that information may be withheld from public scrutiny.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by QQXXw
The fact of the matter is, if you are not a racist, accept others and their ways, if you do in fact embrace multiculturalism, than accept the fact that there are going to be people who will live within their own communities and will follow their own customs within the restrictions of the law.


Did you miss the memo?

The PM of the UK, the Chancellor of Germany and the President of France have all stated that multiculturalism has failed.


Nicolas Sarkozy joins David Cameron and Angela Merkel view that multiculturalism has failed


French president Nicolas Sarkozy has joined David Cameron in condemning multiculturalism as a failure.

Cameron launched a scathing attack earlier this months on 30 years of multiculturalism in Britain warning that it fostered extremism.

His damning verdict came just months after German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that multiculturalism in Germany had failed.

Daily Mail


Australia's former prime minister John Howard and former Spanish prime minister Jose Maria Aznar have also said that multicultural policies had not successfully integrated immigrants.

You stated that if you are not racist, you must embrace multiculturalism.

I admire your exaggerated self-opinion and hubris in effectively calling the UK PM, the French President, the German Chancellor and former Spanish and Australian PMs racists.

It does however mark you out as being a left wing extremist with an extremely acute case of political correctness rather than a person who represents a mainstream opinion.



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posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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InfoKartel, reading through your posts you are someone that is sure that you stand for good and for what is right, even though it is all subjective when you stand by opinion


Oh sure, it's my opinion alright.


You shout racist whenever you can and believe truly what you say to be fact.


Not whenever I can, I always shout it. Duh. That's how us here intellectuals win debates in there 'dem hills, didn't you know that?



What amazes me is that you seem to have no insight in to the effect that uncontrolled levels of immigration has.


What amazes me is your ignorance about history. Your non-experience with life or the balance of life. Yet your insistence on making a point when there is none to be made.


This leads me to assume, rightly or wrongly


Wow, you must be a psychic to make all of those assumptions!


May be I am wrong and you are just completely ignorant of the real world in which many of us live.


"Real world"? Which world is that?


Either way, this is not about race, this is about sustainability.


Race doesn't exist, I don't understand why you guys keep bringing it up. Also, where were you guys when your country went to war, depleting millions of dollars, for no apparent reason?! NOWHERE?! Where were you guys when the banks got bailed out?! NOWHERE!!! Yet here you are, arguing about sustainability...How's that cognitive dissonance working for you?


I see public services in chaos, housing shortage, NHS and Police falling apart and an ever increase in people coming here, many who do not have any intention to contribute or be anything other than from their country of origin.


BLAME THE FOREIGNERS!!! ow wait, no, that's too see-through! BLAME THE GOVERNMENT!!! Sorry, not buying it.


When the SHTF, these people can head home, we can't.


Is that really what you think?


I never believe a published stat, ever.


O_O


I have seen first hand the manipulation of stats and data to create the required result.


Well DUH.


You think its way out of proportion? What evidence do you have to suggest this?


ERMMMM 6500 refugees compared to a population of 4.6 million. And of all places on Earth, it's AUSTRALIA! You guys have more empty space than occupied space, get to work will you!


As I said, without giving too much away of my current and past occupations, I have seen raw data and the published results and believe me when I say that what is published is simply an electorate friendly version.


Of course, the masses are ignorant. So ignorant that they can't even think reasonably without hatred for a few moments.


I certainly don't blame the people that come here, it is in no way their fault. I blame the government and although due to the spread of immigration, more and more are waking up, I fear its too late for Britain.


Britain has raped and pillaged for HUNDREDS OF YEARS. It is only natural there is a time of tribulation before it finds it rightful place. Jump up and down, scream all you want, there is a natural balance we humans cannot escape.


If you all knew exactly the extent of damage that this has done, the majority of British people would become far right over night.


If people worldwide knew and fully understood the facts and consequences about Britain's involvement in many of the atrocities, there wouldn't be a Britain left in the morning. Correct me if you can.


InfoKartel I admire your conviction, but I can never believe you opinion as it is totally contrary to my facts.


I would say the same for some of you peoples conviction when sticking to ignorance, sadly, I don't like commending people with their ignorance.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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The PM of the UK, the Chancellor of Germany and the President of France have all stated that multiculturalism is dead.


And that has nothing to do with their voter base?



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
Race doesn't exist, I don't understand why you guys keep bringing it up.


Have you told the Jews, the Chinese and Africans?

This news will come as a shock to them.

Really, what sort of politically correct lala land would someone need to be floating in to claim that race doesn't exist?

Major fail.




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posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by SecretFace

Race doesn't exist, I don't understand why you guys keep bringing it up.


You are the one who keeps on claiming that we are all racist. you are the one bringing it up.
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posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by InfoKartel
Race doesn't exist, I don't understand why you guys keep bringing it up.


Goodness me. Have you told the Jews, the Chinese and Africans?

This news will come as a shock to them.

Really, what sort of politically correct lala land would someone need to be floating in to claim that race doesn't exist?

Major fail.


The notion of race is nearly as problematic from a scientific point of view as it is from a social one. European physical anthropologists of the 17th and 18th centuries proposed various systems of racial classifications based on such observable characteristics as skin color, hair type, body proportions, and skull measurements, essentially codifying the perceived differences among broad geographic populations of humans.


This is where your thoughts of race stem from. This is the start of when people started perceiving race.


many cultural anthropologists now consider race to be more a social or mental construct than an objective biological fact.

dictionary

You see, you belong to the old breed that's dying out.

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You are the one whi keeps on claiming that we are all racist. you are the one bringing it up.


How can you even say that is beyond me.



posted on Apr, 24 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Dude, you compared my thoughts to that of Hitler and Nazi Germany. How is that not bringing up racism? You essentially classed me the same as Hitler due to my ideologies. That is pretty much racism. You have played the race card in many of your posts in this thread.




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