Originally posted by LifeIsPeculiar
Your rights are something YOU must defend.
Originally posted by shadoseer
reply to post by pshea38
I am new to ATS and am now wondering what is the average age of members here? This country changed drastically after 9/11, far more than after WWII and others where far more people died. We lost many of our rights with the advent of the Patriot Act. There are cameras everywhere, recording every move. You can be located via your cel phone even if it is off, your computer remotely searched. Police drive by houses using devices to check if excessive heat is radiating from a potential grow room. There are police departments with APCs and some of our cities have drones flying above them. We do not have free speech and now if one wants to protest anything often permits must be pulled or one must stay in the 'free speech zone' far away from media. Our media is corporate owned and controlled which is why CNN and others are losing viewers big time and people are turning to alternative sites to get the 'real news'. In most states if you have a certain weed rowing in your yard your could be looking at time in prison even though that plant has caused zero deaths and even the govt has taken a patent on some of it's healing qualities while claiming it has no medicinal value. We are living in an Orwellian world and to speak up or act out is to risk the wrath of big brother crashing down.
If a terrorist group wanted to take out a few thousand people it could be done with relative ease regardless of the so called security in place. Forgive me for not going into detail on that.
It seems many here have no memory of what it was like 30or 40 years ago when one could openly protest anything and the biggest worry would be the reaction of other citizens with opposing views, not getting locked up sometimes for weeks.Back then children went to schools hat did not have cameras taping their every move, but today such is commonplace so when everything is recorded (like in many major cities) people think little of it. Just about everyone I know has at least 1 gun and shots are heard in my suburban neighbourhood several days a week. No big deal anymore. We can say and do as we like as long as it fits into the agenda of whomever is in control at the moment. The elderly, handicapped and small children are groped at airports or anyone that doesn't want to be exposed to the scanners. Seriously, some crazy stuff has been found on board planes even with all of this security. All of this because of one attack that killed less than 5k people.
Now, how many countries does the US have bases in? How many countries have we invaded in order to bring them the gift of democracy at the cost of tens of thousands of lives? How many women and children were killed by mistake or just simply because they were there? How many countries have we imposed our will upon some more forcefully than others? How would any of you feel if the tide was turned and another country, say China, came here and bombed the snot out of us killing innocent people, because there was some natural resource they wanted to get their hands on? We spend more then most of the rest of the world combined on our military, imprison a larger percentage of our people than China and have a lower standard of living than many others yet we like to say we are world leaders???
Maybe it's time the blinders come off and we look at how things really are rather than seeing only some bits through the lens of the American Dream which vanished long ago. Maybe calling it a police state is too strong for some, do you prefer Animal Farm? We have become a living Orwellian novel. So sad,
Originally posted by Domo1
Do you guys have any thoughts on what actually needs to change, or are you just interested in complaining? What do you propose we do, take out all checkpoints?
Originally posted by TritonTaranis
LOL @the OP
Huh? it take hours does it?? well of course it does.. its abusy tourist attraction, in a city with over what 10 million people? its EXACTLY the same anywhere else in the western world,
Originally posted by MRuss
I'm a tour director.
I'm in DC, and New York and Boston a lot, and I do tours in Canada and the rest of the world, too. The past two weeks I've been on the road non-stop, primarily in New York and DC.
I've spent a majority of the time going through security checkpoints. At every attraction our bags are checked, we go through body scanners, we take off our shoes, our coats. You know the drill. Today alone I've been through six scanners. There are policemen everywhere. Eleven years after 9/11, I'm led to believe that terrorists are going to attack the bull on Wall Street?
Today we were touring Wall Street and you can't even walk up to the bull anymore and rub him for good luck. It's cordoned off and a policeman sits there all day in his police car two feet away to make sure no one hops the fence and touches the bull. Seriously? Even the bull----? Has someone made a terrorist threat against the bull? We've been walking by that bull on tour for a dozen years, but alas, it's been off limits for months now. It looks ridiculous behind its steel fences, like a bull in a zoo.
DC isn't any better----it's worse... and the truth is, there is no terrorist hiding behind the Jefferson Memorial or the Wall Street bull. TPTB are hoping to make life more difficult, more restricted. All under the guise of terrorism.
It takes hours to get in and see the new 9/11 memorial fountains. It takes hours to see the Statue of Liberty. It takes hours to see the Capitol, hours to see the archives, hours to get through security just about everywhere. It's the new normal. No one questions it. Most people think they are just doing their patriotic duty.
Out on the road so much, I really have a sense of what is happening to this country and how it plays out in everyday life.
So.....I'd love all of the people who are waiting for the aliens or the White Dragons or the Pentagon to come and save us to let me know when this might happen. Because everyday it gets worse and worse out here.
Everyday we look a little less like America and more like Amerika.