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Originally posted by Liquesence
Would ATS admin know for a fact if the website was being actively monitored by the government?
Does ATS admin know the identity of its members, if there WERE government monitors and disinformation posters?
Not that ATS would disclose if there were or if it were acting in collusion, anyway.
I think that unlikely, unless IPS could be traced directly an agency.
Of course, people believe a LOT of silly things
That said, i have no doubt it is monitored, to an extent, or that there are "agents" who carouse the boards, especially since A) people like Jared Loughner who were here, and B) they monitor TWITTER.
As far as posting disinformation. Possible. More than likely they just stir up stuff if they are active participants, to create discord and tension, the boiling point which seems to be nearing on this site and in society in general.
Originally posted by mf_luder
reply to post by leira7
Okay, let me throw some reason out here into the swirl of chaos you've stirred up.
I am a US Army Counterintelligence Special Agent.
I can prove that to you offline but not on here.
Under Executive Order 12333, we are prohibited from "spying" on US citizens or collecting information on you for any reason without your knowledge. The only time it becomes acceptable is when there is an official investigation underway on someone under suspicion of espionage or a similar crime. That being said, we do not canvas entire sites looking for people to target. That would be a horrible waste of time and resources for any government agency. Believe me. Especially on sites such as this.
Yeah, we like to pride ourselves as being among the best conspiracy sites on the net, but believe me - this place is barely even known by most of the agents I know - supervisors and subordinates. Since our job is extremely similar to that of the CIA, I highly doubt they're watching this place too.
No, the threads you mentioned probably shouldn't be on ATS. They should be on BTS, where they belong and you know what - they are interesting in their own right. Sometimes I see a crazy avatar someone has and wonder why they chose the particular symbology they did. Does that mean I'm an "OMFG UBER SPY FROM THE DARK MASONIC NWO GOVERNMENT"!!!?!?!??!?!? .... no. That means I was curious about an avatar.
So.
Yeah - we (government agents) are on here.
But not because this site is important enough to merit anything more than a curious pause or a good read every once in a while.
Enjoy your paranoia.
Originally posted by miniatus
"I think it would be silly to think that some branch of the government or CIA doesn't have a few people assigned to this site .
Besides, if someone posted a real fact that they some how managed, that was super top secret.. this site would be down for maintenance and the post ( and poster ) would be gone when it came back up."
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I agree 100% with you as quoted above,and just to add a little flash here is a likely Scenario in the event that the above quoted super top secret situation did occur.
Scenario: phone rings,whatever website owner/site server network administrator picks up the phone.
owner/admin:hello
caller:yes this is such an such agency,this thread #------------- window pops up on owner/admins computer screen is of concern to our agency and we will be helping you to remove it as we speak,any uncooperative behavior could result in the removal of your site.
While this phone call is taking place thread is being deleted and possibly leek-er of said super top secret info is banned from site permanently without the site ever having to shut down for maintenance.
Call ends Scenario over!
To me this seems the most likely thing to happen,its straight forward to the point and in line with how top intelligence agency's for government body's would handle a similar situation.
If i am way out in left field with this one let me no i can handle positive or negative feedback equally.edit on 5-4-2012 by Ghostcooler because: sepeeration of quote and comment.edit on 5-4-2012 by Ghostcooler because: seperation of quote and comment.
Originally posted by JohnCreed777
I'm sorry I couldn't resist, I had to crack a joke
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by JohnCreed777
I'm sorry I couldn't resist, I had to crack a joke
See? You are a proof of my point... the government agents can just post here and watch the fun... there are too many jokesters willing to supply disinfo for free
Originally posted by JohnCreed777
I will admit, I am an NSA agent, FBI special agents, and CIA covert operative, while holding a job as the CEO of SBS (silly brain syndrome) Institute. I am paid to act as a mole here on ATS, I monitor your behavior and use mind altering high frequency carrier signals to control you. Heres the bonus: Ufos are a distraction to lure you away from our own alien nature, 9/11 never happened it was a clip from an old Godzilla movie and was a distraction to remove your focus from a possible threat. Naturally you all cried over an old Godzilla movie and never noticed the 3,500 Inter continental balistic missiles flying in US airspace. But SHHHH this is a secret don't tell anyone.
I'm sorry I couldn't resist, I had to crack a joke
Originally posted by Christie
what a load of nonsense....all this stuff....aliens? come on kids....time to grow up, ya?
what's Israel's real game plan.
that's the only question the gubment cares about us talking about.
its the fraternal orders' big hairy deal secret.
do we ever actually get around to it on this forum?
could someone direct me to the actual threads please?
thanks
Christie.edit on 5-4-2012 by Christie because: (no reason given)edit on 5-4-2012 by Christie because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rickymouse
"I have noticed that the comments of everyone here have an influence on others weather they realize it or not. I also noticed that everyone has been influenced by others here. Sometimes the debate makes people more strong in their beliefs and other times it increases awareness in people. I think it's odd that some people can evolve while some can not. The basis of our personalities has already been formed. Distinguishing truth from fallacy is a wise mans trait. Deciphering the truth from Fallacy is another wise mans trait. All Fallacy has some truth in it somewhere."
I agree and would like to add.
Knowledge becomes wisdom only after it has been put to practical use.(Quotation by Source Unknown)
Wisdom is knowledge, rightly applied.(Quotation by Source Unknown)
Without wisdom, knowledge is more stupid than ignorance.(Quotation by Source Unknown)
Some students drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.(Quotation by Source Unknown)
Knowledge fills a large brain; it merely inflates a small one.(Quotation by Source Unknown)
And above all think outside the box ,look at things from all prospective's so as to form a broader understanding of your environment so the you can utilize your surroundings to the best of your ability's.
If you don't understand discernment, look it up get to understand it and apply it to your life.
Flex whatever it is that helps you tune into your inner self and use that combined with the above to untangle the truth from the liesedit on 5-4-2012 by Ghostcooler because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
If anyone had any doubts of Gov Monitoring ATS, look no further than the 911 Forum.
There are 3 members who have never posted outside the 911 Forum,and will address any issue of 911 within minutes.
If a thread is made discussing the "elephant" in the room, between themselves within a few postings, the thread will be no longer about the "elephant", but the colour of the carpet, amazing really, and effective.