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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 11:05 PM
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I dont know him or her? but that person definitely seems more than a little childish and also seems to enjoy wasting band width spewing meaninglessness < is that a word? anyways,theres no reason for you to feel threatened by anything he or she might post thats meant for you to read and the more you react angry and threatened,the worse that person will become...

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
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A class-3 civilization would be indistinguishable from a class-4,there really would'nt be any difference at all,they would be the same and so i think a class-3 civilization would be the pinnacle,the apogee of the technilogical and psychological evolution of an intelligent species...

You display no discernible ability to comprehend the simple things such as 23,000 lbs on Earth only weigh about 4,000 lbs on or near the Moon. .
Do you know for sure,without any doubt,that the 23,000lb lunar module would only weigh 4,000lbs near and on the moon? or it that just more unprovable information that tptb want us to think and believe?


read this:
www.ajdesigner.com...

these are newtons equations not nasa's, these are the basic gravitational equations under ideal conditions.



posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by choos

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
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A class-3 civilization would be indistinguishable from a class-4,there really would'nt be any difference at all,they would be the same and so i think a class-3 civilization would be the pinnacle,the apogee of the technilogical and psychological evolution of an intelligent species...

You display no discernible ability to comprehend the simple things such as 23,000 lbs on Earth only weigh about 4,000 lbs on or near the Moon. .
Do you know for sure,without any doubt,that the 23,000lb lunar module would only weigh 4,000lbs near and on the moon? or it that just more unprovable information that tptb want us to think and believe?


read this:
www.ajdesigner.com...

these are newtons equations not nasa's, these are the basic gravitational equations under ideal conditions.
They are gravitational equations for earth.As far as i know,newton never went to the moon and neither has anyone else,at least not anyone human.At least not any human living in the modern era,but perhaps humans went to the moon,because humans built the moon,when we use to live on mars,someplace in time,somewhere within our ancient and all but forgotten past...



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by choos

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
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A class-3 civilization would be indistinguishable from a class-4,there really would'nt be any difference at all,they would be the same and so i think a class-3 civilization would be the pinnacle,the apogee of the technilogical and psychological evolution of an intelligent species...

You display no discernible ability to comprehend the simple things such as 23,000 lbs on Earth only weigh about 4,000 lbs on or near the Moon. .
Do you know for sure,without any doubt,that the 23,000lb lunar module would only weigh 4,000lbs near and on the moon? or it that just more unprovable information that tptb want us to think and believe?


read this:
www.ajdesigner.com...

these are newtons equations not nasa's, these are the basic gravitational equations under ideal conditions.
They are gravitational equations for earth.As far as i know,newton never went to the moon and neither has anyone else,at least not anyone human.At least not any human living in the modern era,but perhaps humans went to the moon,because humans built the moon,when we use to live on mars,someplace in time,somewhere within our ancient and all but forgotten past...


bloc you have just said humans never went to the moon....then you say perhaps the humans built the moon.im confused now bloc mate? so now it seems you are changing your story again.i thought you said its not possible and never will be? which is it ?



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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and bloc did you read my long awaited posts as well?.the link i posted for the van allen belts? and the temperatures for said apollo



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by choos

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
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A class-3 civilization would be indistinguishable from a class-4,there really would'nt be any difference at all,they would be the same and so i think a class-3 civilization would be the pinnacle,the apogee of the technilogical and psychological evolution of an intelligent species...

You display no discernible ability to comprehend the simple things such as 23,000 lbs on Earth only weigh about 4,000 lbs on or near the Moon. .
Do you know for sure,without any doubt,that the 23,000lb lunar module would only weigh 4,000lbs near and on the moon? or it that just more unprovable information that tptb want us to think and believe?


read this:
www.ajdesigner.com...

these are newtons equations not nasa's, these are the basic gravitational equations under ideal conditions.
They are gravitational equations for earth.As far as i know,newton never went to the moon and neither has anyone else,at least not anyone human.At least not any human living in the modern era,but perhaps humans went to the moon,because humans built the moon,when we use to live on mars,someplace in time,somewhere within our ancient and all but forgotten past...


"AT LEAST NOT ANYONE HUMAN WENT ON MOON "..WHATS THIS THEN YOU MENTION ABOUT

"BECAUSE HUMANS BUILT THE MOON"

..NOW BLOC YOU HAVE FINALLY SLIPPED UP MY FRIEND THERE .... "YOUR WORDS PAL"



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by choos

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
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A class-3 civilization would be indistinguishable from a class-4,there really would'nt be any difference at all,they would be the same and so i think a class-3 civilization would be the pinnacle,the apogee of the technilogical and psychological evolution of an intelligent species...

You display no discernible ability to comprehend the simple things such as 23,000 lbs on Earth only weigh about 4,000 lbs on or near the Moon. .
Do you know for sure,without any doubt,that the 23,000lb lunar module would only weigh 4,000lbs near and on the moon? or it that just more unprovable information that tptb want us to think and believe?


read this:
www.ajdesigner.com...

these are newtons equations not nasa's, these are the basic gravitational equations under ideal conditions.
They are gravitational equations for earth.As far as i know,newton never went to the moon and neither has anyone else,at least not anyone human.At least not any human living in the modern era,but perhaps humans went to the moon,because humans built the moon,when we use to live on mars,someplace in time,somewhere within our ancient and all but forgotten past...


they are gravity equation in general not just for the earth, they will provide reasonably accurate assumptions of gravity for the moon. In case you dont know you can use these equations to find the force of gravity of an elephant or an apple. Actually you probably didnt know that every single mass has its own gravitational force pulling things around it towards it.

without these equations you cant fly a probe or satelite to orbit the earth nor moon.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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heres some eye candy.

www.youtube.com...

id like to see that sped up 2.54 times and than have someone replicate that with about 96kg strapped to their back and in a suit that restrict mobility alot.

done with invisible strings you say? must be one fast moving string, bungee cord must have unbelievable amounts of control as well, wonder where they would have to mount the said strings? maybe the following than.


www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...
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edit on 6-4-2012 by choos because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Do you know for sure,without any doubt,that the 23,000lb lunar module would only weigh 4,000lbs near and on the moon?

No, I do not KNOW for sure, but I have no reason to doubt and certainly can't falsify the equations and observations of Gravity. My comment was more about this quote


I not talking about its weight on the moon.What i mean is how much does the 23,000lb module weigh when its descending but still 100 miles above the moons surface? how much when its descending but still 50 miles above? and then 25 miles? then 10? then 5? Surely it must still weigh 23,000lbs while its falling/descending and not yet upon the surface,because thats what it weighs...

NO!!! You seem to think someone is telling you the weight changes only when the module comes to rest on the Moon. WEIGHT is NOT a property of matter, weight varies according to the force of Gravity exerted upon it. If the Moon has about 1/6 the Gravity of Earth then any object will weigh about 1/6 of its Earth weight on the Moon or anywhere near it because it is predominantly the Moon-G that causes it to have "weight". The module would only weigh about 4,000 lbs anywhere near or on the Moon, NOT 23,000 lbs as that "weight" is only a consequence OF Earth-G on the module. Have you looked into what others have tried to show you about this?



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Hey Bloc, how do you know the burger you ate is beef when you've never been to said cow? Have you ever been to Iguassu Falls in Brazil/Argentina, if not how do you know its really there?

Continuously using that kind of logic for replies is not engaging the evidence or data.

Who can tell me more about Mars, someone who's been there or a lifelong astrophysicist. Who can tell me more about radiometric dating dating, any physicist or a high school student watching it being done?



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by denver22
reply to post by blocula
 


bloc do you know that mork and mindy dude is he a freind of yours? that dude did you notice he was threatening me but obviously not to my face as i am a 3rd dan black belt in karate and well dosent matter.but this dude was a bit sick bloc in the head......just like to add i dont dislike you because you have some good ideas there..maybe if it was a different thread then i might agree with you bud..but lets carry on the debate my friend and leave morkyeus to tend to mindip..were was we bud? us that is because some posts have dissapeared ...if he is not a freind or regardless ATS should check this guy out.it was a threat and well cant mention on here but if you have seen casino bud in feilds of corn etc ... this mork had a right to mention about wot i believe but to threaten to hack me somehow or scare me into thinkin that is not wise..ooohhh know.... i give you banter bloc i expect know different my friend. peace.. ATS WARN MORK ...... at the time he said proxy the whole site just went 503.. and that applied to you me and some other fellow...coincedence or sabotage?..bloc did you read my links?? by the way and get this thread back on track


nanu nanu denver22

speculating is dangerous human
mindip or not the ATS site are being monitored by other vicious people,
I respect you opinion but my "sick" head doesn't wanna be found by the vicious people.

you should relax denver22, no threat was given l0l

kay-o?

the space program has too many secrets IMO



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by MorkandMindy

Originally posted by denver22
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bloc do you know that mork and mindy dude is he a freind of yours? that dude did you notice he was threatening me but obviously not to my face as i am a 3rd dan black belt in karate and well dosent matter.but this dude was a bit sick bloc in the head......just like to add i dont dislike you because you have some good ideas there..maybe if it was a different thread then i might agree with you bud..but lets carry on the debate my friend and leave morkyeus to tend to mindip..were was we bud? us that is because some posts have dissapeared ...if he is not a freind or regardless ATS should check this guy out.it was a threat and well cant mention on here but if you have seen casino bud in feilds of corn etc ... this mork had a right to mention about wot i believe but to threaten to hack me somehow or scare me into thinkin that is not wise..ooohhh know.... i give you banter bloc i expect know different my friend. peace.. ATS WARN MORK ...... at the time he said proxy the whole site just went 503.. and that applied to you me and some other fellow...coincedence or sabotage?..bloc did you read my links?? by the way and get this thread back on track


nanu nanu denver22

speculating is dangerous human
mindip or not the ATS site are being monitored by other vicious people,
I respect you opinion but my "sick" head doesn't wanna be found by the vicious people.

you should relax denver22, no threat was given l0l

kay-o?

the space program has too many secrets IMO
who are these viscious people ? you say you dont want to be found by these viscious people??? .and if there is no threat intended then i opolagize .all is forgiven



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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is not earth beautifull from the space staion ?..

bloc just look at the time and money the man power it takes to achieve space flight are truly greatest achievment of all so far..



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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I said that humans in the modern era never went to the moon and i think that the moon is a death star/noahs ark type of starship and so perhaps it was ancient humans,who maybe use to live on mars,that may have been the ones who bulit it,a very long time ago and the garden of eden might have been on mars,when that planet was very similar to earth...



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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Thin titanium wires were probably used for some shots and scenes and other shots and scenes required green/blue screen effects and some rotoscoping was probably also used and the government/nasa probably used secret and at the time,very high tech movie making techniques for some of the shots and scenes as well and of course,small,medium and large lunar mockup sets were built on huge soundstages,within secret military hangers of vast proportions...



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by denver22
 
I said that humans in the modern era never went to the moon and i think that the moon is a death star/noahs ark type of starship and so perhaps it was ancient humans,who maybe use to live on mars,that may have been the ones who bulit it,a very long time ago and the garden of eden might have been on mars,when that planet was very similar to earth...


How did these ancient humans build the moon or get to the moon and can i ask why we cant and how did these ancient humans pass the van allen belt bloc? ..you have said that man couldnt get passed the belt..did they beam up ?



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
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Thin titanium wires were probably used for some shots and scenes and other shots and scenes required green/blue screen effects and some rotoscoping was probably also used and the government/nasa probably used secret and at the time,very high tech movie making techniques for some of the shots and scenes as well and of course,small,medium and large lunar mockup sets were built on huge soundstages,within secret military hangers of vast proportions...


thats a hell of alot of scenes to do in less than one day!!

tell me how thin titanium wires elongate? what percentage of their original length to the titanium wires elongate before going into plastic deformation ie. when they are still in elastic deformation. you can see in the videos, when he falls it isnt a sudden stop/jerky movement its all smooth.

have you seen the pendulum video? that video is obviously done in a vacuum. have you watched the entire video? the second half or about 2/3rds of the way in, the video is compared to a similar experiment on earth but sped up to match the speed as the pendulum on earth. have you noticed how the astronauts move unnaturally fast? the dust they kick around moves unnaturally fast as well when sped up, noticed that?

have you seen david scott fall over? when he falls his feet move quickly to try to stop himself, after doing a a little space walk.. if it was slowed down you should see his feet move as he was falling when its sped up back to earth speed. again unnaturally fast.

seriously just watch the pendulum video in its entirety. here it is again:
www.youtube.com...



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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bloc look at this i found..



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Figured id add this one to id love to see how someone would fake this on earth. Its a science experiment testing gravity. Galileo's theory was correct object fall at the same speed no mater there mass.In an environment with no atmosphere this can be proved.




posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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i could not agree more this surely wrapps it pretty much up dont you think, regarding these videos and all the data

we all have posted..ive posted the modules resistance to things in detail.

ive posted myself alone everything about the van allen belt ..

and now its only a matter of time before the billionaires club of people make some serious money from

space flight for the rich and well pretty much well off...maybe then the critics will be silenced..

when this does happen..wot say you bloc? still not convinced?









 
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