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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by OldCorp


You really don't know anything about this country do you? It is ALREADY 50 little countries, as it was DESIGNED to be by the Framers. Each state is an independent, Sovereign State (note the capital S) that has a Chief Executive (Governor) and army (National Guard.) The "individual states" came together for mutual protection and economic benefit; BUT a state may secede from the Union at any time, or reject any Federal legislation they desire. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments.


And it probably worked great for 13 colonies and 1.3 million people.

200 years ago.


And one could say it worked so well that it expanded way beyond the original 13 colonies and 1.3 million people for over 200 yrs. Well until recently when the Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas got their hands on it, mangled it and distorted it to fit their own personal agendas. See you can't have your cake and eat it to. Whats kinda funny in all this is people that think like you that want the constitution gotten rid of and everything rewritten are now considered terrorists under the homeland security guidelines, you know rebels, dissenters, funny how that blade swings both ways isn't it? I admit there are many parts of the system that are flawed and are in need of a tune up but like many have said there are ways of doing that written right in the founding documents and when done in that manner perfectly acceptable. A recent example is the many states allowing gay people to get married, times have changed, peoples feelings twords that have changed and so laws were amended to allow for equal rights in those instances on a state by state basis. See it still works, just needs a little more adherence to and perhaps a little dusting off, not a dismissal and complete disregard of. Eh my thoughts on it anyway.....




posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by IrVulture
Well, I'll tell ya, There are still a lot of us out there, (Behind every OTHER blade of grass), who still have a grip on reality..


Not really. More like every tenth blade



A good step in the RIGHT direction would be, Bring back "The Fairness Doctrine"


Why would you want to do that? So that media like Air America and Al Franken could still be on the air despite having NO AUDIENCE? Don't even argue this point, my friend - it is simple economics of the broadcasting business. No audience = no show. Why do you think people like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and the people you quote below have huge audiences? Because people like what they say and agree with them. Nobody listened to Franken because his views were extreme left. He failed because a very few number of people liked what he said. Explain to me how that could be, since at least half of people in America are liberals like yourself?




When the Reagan administration trashed that, That is when things started spinning out of control and we started getting all this ultra right-wing, fascist propaganda from the likes of Foxnews, Micheal Savage, Rush Limbaugh, (and the list could go on and on) under the guise of "Entertainment", And the Republicans will never allow it to be reinstated...Why IS that?



See above response. Supply and demand, bud. Simple as that. No one wants to listen to socialist propaganda. The fairness doctrine forces that crap down everyone's throat. Guess what? Even if the FD were still around, NO ONE would listen to those shows.



By the way, I consider myself a "Realist", neither left, right or middle. I want what is best for EVERYBODY!


You want what's best for everybody, as long as they are liberal? I highly doubt you are middle of the road, given the fact that you are pushing the fairness doctrine and bashing conservative radio hosts. If I were to guess, I'd say you were really a flaming liberal.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by jaynkeel

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by OldCorp


You really don't know anything about this country do you? It is ALREADY 50 little countries, as it was DESIGNED to be by the Framers. Each state is an independent, Sovereign State (note the capital S) that has a Chief Executive (Governor) and army (National Guard.) The "individual states" came together for mutual protection and economic benefit; BUT a state may secede from the Union at any time, or reject any Federal legislation they desire. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments.


And it probably worked great for 13 colonies and 1.3 million people.

200 years ago.


And one could say it worked so well that it expanded way beyond the original 13 colonies and 1.3 million people for over 200 yrs.


Yes - absolutely they could.


people that think like you that want the constitution gotten rid of and everything rewritten are now considered terrorists under the homeland security guidelines, you know rebels, dissenters, funny how that blade swings both ways isn't it?


Drama!

I never said get rid of the Constitution. I agree with some who say it needs updating or an overhaul (to fit the times).



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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You give Limbaugh too much credit. He is the howard stern of politics. The majority of the reason people listen to him is not because they agree with what he says, it is because they want to see what asinine thing he is going to say next.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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Is that the best you can do?



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Destinyone
 


Is that the best you can do?


Nawwwww...but, I'm having a good laugh watching you and Annee playing tag-team cheerleaders for the Obama team...



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Why would you want to do that? So that media like Air America and Al Franken could still be on the air despite having NO AUDIENCE? Don't even argue this point, my friend - it is simple economics of the broadcasting business. No audience = no show. Why do you think people like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and the people you quote below have huge audiences? Because people like what they say and agree with them. Nobody listened to Franken because his views were extreme left. He failed because a very few number of people liked what he said. Explain to me how that could be, since at least half of people in America are liberals like yourself?


I'll tell you why Al Franken didn't get big ratings. Because liberals don't watch a lot of TV or listen to a lot of talk radio- they're more intellectual. Which explains why the right-wing shows get such high ratings. The less intellectual you are, the more TV you watch. And that's a fact, Jack. And that's why Fox News has higher ratings than MSNBC.

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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by AwakeinNM
 


You give Limbaugh too much credit. He is the howard stern of politics. The majority of the reason people listen to him is not because they agree with what he says, it is because they want to see what asinine thing he is going to say next.


If we use your logic, Democrats would be pushing Obama out of the way in favor of Joe Biden.

Fail.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Why would you want to do that? So that media like Air America and Al Franken could still be on the air despite having NO AUDIENCE? Don't even argue this point, my friend - it is simple economics of the broadcasting business. No audience = no show. Why do you think people like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and the people you quote below have huge audiences? Because people like what they say and agree with them. Nobody listened to Franken because his views were extreme left. He failed because a very few number of people liked what he said. Explain to me how that could be, since at least half of people in America are liberals like yourself?


I'll tell you why Al Franken didn't get big ratings. Because liberals don't watch a lot of TV or listen to a lot of talk radio- they're more intellectual. Which explains why the right-wing shows get such high ratings. The less intellectual you are, the more TV you watch. And that's a fact, Jack.


Wow. Do you really believe that? Why didn't Al Franken just write a book instead of hosting a radio show? Surely he must know this 'fact' about liberals.

I must be a freakin genius because I haven't had cable for the last DECADE. Can YOU say the same?

Liberals sitting in their barcaloungers reading Voltaire and smoking a pipe - what a visual that is. They have a whole-wall bookshelf full of classics and no TV anywhere in the house. I am sooo sure.

By the way, Dave Axelrod called. He wants his playbook back.

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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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reply to post by Annee
 


Because the State is governed by the citizens and represents their opinions, ever take an American National Gov't course?



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Wow. Do you really believe that? Why didn't Al Franken just write a book instead of hosting a radio show? Surely he must know this 'fact' about liberals.


He has written several books - been on the New York Times Best Seller List more than once. Guess he let that get to his head, and thought all those liberals would stop reading long enough to listen to some talk radio.


I must be a freakin genius because I haven't had cable for the last DECADE. Can YOU say the same?


The only thing I ever watch on TV is MSNBC, Frontline, and for entertainment - The Daily Show, or the Colbert Report - or if I really want a laugh - I'll watch Fox News. But I can only stand about 15 minutes of Fox, or my head will explode.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by IrVulture

Well, I'll tell ya, There are still a lot of us out there, (Behind every OTHER blade of grass), who still have a grip on reality...



A good step in the RIGHT direction would be, Bring back "The Fairness Doctrine"





Why would you want to do that? So that media like Air America and Al Franken could still be on the air despite having NO AUDIENCE? Don't even argue this point, my friend - it is simple economics of the broadcasting business. No audience = no show. Why do you think people like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and the people you quote below have huge audiences? Because people like what they say and agree with them. Nobody listened to Franken because his views were extreme left. He failed because a very few number of people liked what he said. Explain to me how that could be, since at least half of people in America are liberals like yourself?


You obviously didn't bother to read the link I provided, What is so bad about actual fair and balanced reporting in the media? What has that got to do with liberalism?

I grew up in era when news was unbiased, When we got to hear BOTH sides of the argument and decide for ourselves.

When the Reagan administration trashed that, That is when things started spinning out of control and we started getting all this ultra right-wing, fascist propaganda from the likes of Foxnews, Micheal Savage, Rush Limbaugh, (and the list could go on and on) under the guise of "Entertainment", And the Republicans will never allow it to be reinstated...Why IS that?






See above response. Supply and demand, bud. Simple as that. No one wants to listen to socialist propaganda. The fairness doctrine forces that crap down everyone's throat. Guess what? Even if the FD were still around, NO ONE would listen to those shows.



Again, Educate yourself on what the fairness doctrine REALLY is, and quit trying to spin it into some evil socialist plot.

Beyond that, there is no use in trying to wake you up...




By the way, I consider myself a "Realist", neither left, right or middle. I want what is best for EVERYBODY!




You want what's best for everybody, as long as they are liberal? I highly doubt you are middle of the road, given the fact that you are pushing the fairness doctrine and bashing conservative radio hosts. If I were to guess, I'd say you were really a flaming liberal.


I was waiting for the name calling to start, But ah ain't ah gonna play dat game, I'm better than that.
So, You really believe what these alleged "conservative talk show hosts" tell you?
Even though they will tell you to your face that they are just "entertainers"?
That's just sad dude....



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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I have to go along with the people who have wrote the following articles about Uncle O
He really has done some things that would make a Real Believer In Democracy and Justice, Scratch Their Head and Think,,,, Sh^t !!

Obama Constiutional Scholar: Asassinating US citizens his right



I thought the Patriot Act violated our God given constitutional rights, I thought sending 165,000 troops to invade another country without declaring war was unconsitutional.......but assassinating American citizens that are chosen for death by the President????

Yes, Assassinating Citizens that The President as Chosen Himself,,,, Is This Accurate? If so, it reminds me of living in my home country under Mao and his Henchmen.

Forcing every American to purchase something that is chosen by the President???? WTHFS (and any other abbreviation you can think to put in there)

One of the reasons that Europeans pay more for gas at the pump is because they are also paying a Tax for their Socialized Health Care. I Was Told By A Member of Parliament.
How are we going to pay for Uncle O's Health Care For All?
www.athenstalks.com...

Obama has no respect, regard for Constitution



Obama’s disrespect for the U.S. Constitution is breathtaking. Not only does he disrespect it — he defies it!

Yes Uncle O just does not have the time to waste, Our tried and true measures are not to Obamas Liking.
declaring “I can’t wait.”

After unilaterally appointing Richard Cordray as director of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), President Obama proceeded to appoint three new officials to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) declaring “I can’t wait.”


While recess appointments are not uncommon, these appointments are only constitutional when the Congress is, in fact, in recess. Obama made these four appointments while the Congress was in session, thereby circumventing the advice and consent of the Senate. This direct violation of the Constitution is a blatant, in-your-face abuse of power and a breathtaking violation of the separation of powers.


President Obama has said many times that he believes his goals are so important that he intends to implement them with or without Congress, through executive or administrative usurpations.

thegazette.com...
President Obama has said many times that he believes his goals are so important
Obama Goals,,,,,,, Not The American Peoples Goals,,,,,, Obamas!!!!!



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Not sure if saying Welcome to the United States is the right thing but, Welcome guohua. It truly is sad that we have to have so many people from depressed nations move here only to be let down and led down a similar path that they just left. And whats sadder is that so many that live here already and have never faced these things before will never believe you and yours when you try to tell them what is really going on, either that or they have some twisted fantasies and prefer to let others dictate them around.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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OH,,,,, and another little speed bump that Our Constitution has throw in front of Uncle O and his Henchmen is, Spending Our Tax Dollars On His Pet Projects. He is Ignoring The Constitution Again.

Obama's Deep Disrespect for Congress and the Rest of Us



President Obama, it would seem, has crossed into new territory and his Administration, unhappy with the constitutional constraints on Executive authority to direct spending, is now openly violating the Constitution.


The highest law of the land constricts Team Obama’s ability to spend taxpayer money on pet projects that have never been part of any appropriation bill. However, the Obama Administration routinely spends money that has never been appropriated and routinely exceeds the spending limits set by even this spendthrift Congress.

Yes, The Open Wallet and Purses of the Tax Payers,,,,,, He does care your spending a days earning or more at the pump,,, who pays to fill up his SUV's,,, The Tax Payers and Who Are They? You and Me!!!
The Constitution Of The United States Of America is nothing more than a Nuisance and Annoying to Obama and in his way for transforming America into a 3rd. World Nation.
How,,, By Making The Dollars a Worthless Piece of Paper,,,,

A recent example can be found at Health and Human Services (HHS). Auditors discovered that the agency has routinely spent taxpayer money on projects that were not appropriated by Congress. Of course, the Obama’s Administration is violating the Constitution when it takes these actions. The Anti-Deficiency Act compels large fines and possible jail time for individuals within the Administration that are caught spending money that has never been appropriated.

There's More!!!
townhall.com...
What Obamanite was it that wanted links,,,,, they'd never read or watch any way?



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Thank You my friend and I Love America and All The United States has shown me in it's Constitution and Liberties, I can travel to any State or City and not have to Acquire some form of travel documents.

I Love America and It Pains Me Greatly, My Heart Hurts to read and hear what this man is doing to this Great Nation.
Be-him a Puppet or a Fanatic that believes himself to be above all others and their needs, this Blanton Abuse power needs to End!

On Wednesday, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Martin Dempsey told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Obama administration would seek “international permission” before engaging in war in Syria. Besides the possibility that it is merely a ruse — as there is growing evidence that the United States may already be covertly involved in Syria’s war — for the United States to seek permission from other nations to go to war is unconstitutional. For that reason, Representative Walter Jones (R-N.C., left) has just introduced House Concurrent Resolution 107, calling for the impeachment of the President if he declares war without congressional approval

thenewamerican.com...
In My Mind,,, This Young Man On The Bench, Represents All Americans, Be You, Black, Brown, White, Asian or Ex-Communist Decent, Obama and his Henchmen are Stepping On Us!
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edit on 23-3-2012 by guohua because: Spelling and links



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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By the way, so what if Obama is Muslim? Why do you care what religion he is? I mean it's not like any religion has the market cornered on good faith.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Exsisto
reply to post by OldCorp
 


By the way, so what if Obama is Muslim? Why do you care what religion he is? I mean it's not like any religion has the market cornered on good faith.


I DON'T care what religion he is; but I DO expect him to be honest about it.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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First of all, I really dig your avatar. That said, I also appreciate your digs on my OP. I've never in my life thought I would ever be compared to Bill O'Reilly, and it's truly amusing.

I think if Bill O'Reilly knew I was being compared to him, he'd likely be offended.

I don't disagree on most of what you say. The system has shown little respect for the liberties of the proletariat for decades. This systemic disease goes all the way up to the highest levels of our government, obviously. In any event, these truths don't excuse the vitriolic hate-speech that has so infected the national discussion on the matter, none of which advances the discussion toward a healthy resolution.

And this, more than anything, was the point of my post.

He's not your President? You didn't vote for him? Neither did I. He's still my President. I didn't vote for Bush or Cheney either, and they were my President and Vice President for eight horrific years.

Do you live in the United States? Do you pay taxes? Are you off the grid completely? No? Then he's your President, and more than half of your fellow constituents and taxpayers voted him into office, absolutely with your assistance, whether you were or are witting of it or not.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by Exsisto
reply to post by OldCorp
 


By the way, so what if Obama is Muslim? Why do you care what religion he is? I mean it's not like any religion has the market cornered on good faith.


I DON'T care what religion he is; but I DO expect him to be honest about it.


Keep in mind, we're talking about politicians here, Sir.





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