Shut Up Already With The Anti-POTUS Drivel, page 8

reply to post by Annee

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Indeed, I am only human. I do enjoy a good debate, and I do take pride in my roots and the roots of our country. I don't mean to insult, so I apologize if you were offended, but yes, my previous statement was my emotion-fueled opinion.

Originally posted by jlm912
reply to post by Annee

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Indeed, I am only human. I do enjoy a good debate, and I do take pride in my roots and the roots of our country. I don't mean to insult, so I apologize if you were offended, but yes, my previous statement was my emotion-fueled opinion.

No prob

We all have emotional responses.

Admitting it? Priceless

reply to post by Annee

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You act as if a larger population should change the rules on how we govern the country? If anything having more people should put emphasis on states' rights to make their own decisions since its tailored to their location and populous. That way the feds sit back like their SUPPOSED to and if one state fails in its duty is when they come in to help out. NOT make decisions as a whole for the country, there is a reason why there is 50 different states. Because every situation is different and what works in one state probably wont work in another. The framework was perfect, what the imbeciles in office did to it is what put us in a hole in which we cannot dig out of now.

Originally posted by Brandon88
reply to post by Annee

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You act as if a larger population should change the rules on how we govern the country? If anything having more people should put emphasis on states' rights to make their own decisions since its tailored to their location and populous.

Yes - - states rights that are about location - - geographic and weather needs.

Not Civil Rights - - - or Marriage Rights.

reply to post by Brandon88

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Exactly. You get a star . The way I see it, we were meant to be a republic on the state level, where every contributing citizen had their voice heard and represented in Congress, where we were to nationally have a democracy with majority rule where the voice of the majority was superior. The country is and has been vastly changing into something completely different, whereas now the voice of a powerful handful is superior and the voice of the majority is merely "taken into consideration" if acknowledged at all. Repulsive and infuriating for sure.

A democratic-republic. Nowadays, "democrats" and "republicans" are pitted against each other, when we should all be working in harmony, while a completely different agenda is carried out.

reply to post by Annee

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The Fed has NO right to decide our civil rights or marriage rights. That is to be decided upon on a state level just like everything else. Anything the Fed does in regards to those things is illegal just like telling us what we can and cannot do with our own bodies. We have already been given our civil rights.

Civil rights include the ensuring of peoples' physical integrity and safety; protection from discrimination on grounds such as physical or mental disability, gender, religion, race, national origin, age, status as a member of the uniformed services, sexual orientation, or gender identity;[1][2][3] and individual rights such as privacy, the freedoms of thought and conscience, speech and expression, religion, the press, and movement.

The Feds cannot tell us to do anything, if the state says it is allowed then we can. The Federal Gov't was made to answer to the state not the other way around. This country was not made for decisions to be decided upon at the federal level.And the state in regards is to answer to the citizens who elected them.

People have turned politics into a career and do anything they can to keep themselves in office, which was never meant to happen. It is a service to our country to serve in a position temporarily, not stay in that position for the rest of your life with six digit salaries and benefits coming out of our tax dollars.

reply to post by Annee

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Ah yes, and that's where I shall point to the 9th amendment:

"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Others, being other rights, should not be infringed, including marriage rights and civil rights. The way they have been handled are not as "rights" however, but as "privileges," which is a crock. I have the right to choose whomever I want as a life partner and spouse. That's between me and them, and government, state or federal, has no business intervening.

Originally posted by jlm912
reply to post by Annee

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Ah yes, and that's where I shall point to the 9th amendment:

Sorry.

Too late -- too tired,

reply to post by Annee

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Understood. Farewell and goodnight.

But generally speaking, the Constitution initially only provided protection against any laws infringing on our civil rights, and it also set the process for the structure of our federal government and it's duties, largely internationally, meaning foreign affairs such as commerce and war were to be handled federally and most all others to be handled by the state.

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
Obama Has Increased Debt $5 Trillion --- www.abovetopsecret.com...

Stimulus Package after Stimulus Package -- crazy unemployed anti-obama people -- things are great -- Obama 2012 lets shoot for the quadzillions!!!

You're absolutely correct,,, lets take a look at the president’s 2009 stimulus for companies developing ‘commercially available technologies.
Yes, you know our tax dollars at work, Remember the Solar Firm Solyndra?
We all know the company Failed after it was giving an injection of Tax payers monies, A $535 million loan guarantee to Solyndra. by the administration of,,,,, Guess Who,,, Yes Obama.
Now this is the Really Good Part,,, Obama as usual is Blaming Some One Other Than Himself For His Fail Policies, Does That Surprise any of you?

Obama is saying, This Was Not Our Program, YUP,,, Pass the Blame Game Obama.
Obama blames Congress and the Chinese for the company going Bankrupt.

President Obama denied culpability for the failure of solar firm Solyndra in a radio interview on Tuesday, instead pinning the blame on Congress and the Chinese.

The loans initiative used to finance Solyndra was “not our program,” he told American Public Media in response to question about Solyndra’s bankruptcy and subsequent controversy.

source: freebeacon.com...

Wrong!!! Another Lie To the Sheeple.

The truth can be found here:
www.factcheck.org...

Obama’s Solyndra Problem

President Obama exaggerated when defending his administration’s approval of a $535 million loan guarantee to Solyndra, a now-defunct solar company.

Exaggerated is not the word I'd use,,,I would say Lying is more like it, he does it enough, maybe he believes the lies his own lies.

Obama referred to Solyndra’s loan at an Oct. 6 press conference as “a loan guarantee program that predates me.” That’s not accurate. It’s true that the Energy Policy Act of 2005 created a loan guarantee program for clean-energy companies developing “innovative technologies.” But Solyndra’s loan guarantee came under another program created by the president’s 2009 stimulus for companies developing “commercially available technologies.”

This is a good part, read closely now, Open Your Eyes,,, Obamanites,,,,

The Republican-controlled House has been investigating whether the administration ignored red flags about Solyndra’s financial condition when it offered a $535 million loan guarantee to the start-up company. The California company announced in August it would file for bankruptcy protection — about two and a half years after receiving the loan guarantee from the Department of Energy.

The loan guarantee program that provided financing for Solyndra, however, does not predate Obama.

Source Again: www.factcheck.org...

reply to post by AwakeinNM

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That's "President Asshat" to you, sir

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reply to post by jlm912

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Bro Hugs.

reply to post by Destinyone

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You do know that presidents have very little control over gas prices.

This is where ATS gets stupid. Every other thread is about how presidents try to grab power and freedoms, yet give the credit of every little thing to the president. Everything is the presidents fault. So basically atsers complain about what they willingly give.

He is not a king, he didn't wake up and set the gas prices today.

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