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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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reply to post by OldCorp
 


Coming up with names like Poser in Chief keeps people from taking your posts seriously since you obviously haven't progressed since middle school name calling.




posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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reply to post by nixie_nox
 


What do you call giving billions to Brazil so they can drill in their Country, with the promise to buy their oil, while continuing to refuse to sign permits to drill and explore in the Country he WORKS for. What do you call that I ask.

Tip of a very big iceberg of Obama cutting deals to benefit a few select buddies of his and playing world monopoly with tax payers money.

Even now, as he is beginning to see his poll numbers tumble due to vetoing the Keystone Pipeline...he was all over television yesterday outright lying that he is in favor of the pipeline, and is approving a small section of it, even though it didn't require his approval. Also claiming the pipeline was stopped by Republicans not him....what a split tongued snake in the grass he is....

Even Megan Kelly on FOX, after watching the clip of his latest outright lies on the pipeline said...."doesn't he even realize we have youtube, and videos that show him saying the exact opposite....people aren't dumb."

Des



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Destinyone
 


You do know that presidents have very little control over gas prices.

This is where ATS gets stupid. Every other thread is about how presidents try to grab power and freedoms, yet give the credit of every little thing to the president. Everything is the presidents fault. So basically atsers complain about what they willingly give.

He is not a king, he didn't wake up and set the gas prices today.


I still find this hard to believe. Your telling me that he in no way shape or form could use his power or position in office to effect the price of gas? He couldn't use his powers to force people to tighten the belt so to speak on how gas prices are set, regulated and manipulated. He couldn't of signed off years ago on certain decisions to loosen the restrictions on drilling our own oil and push to up the numbers of refinery's here in the conus. He seems perfectly willing and able to force through higher taxes and such on energy consumption through carbon taxes and the like, but nope cannot at all effect the price of gas. No matter what people claim I find it highly unlikely to be true. If he wanted to he could have and still could. I understand how the prices are manipulated by speculation and such but don't tell me he has no control over any of it.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by OldCorp
 


Coming up with names like Poser in Chief keeps people from taking your posts seriously since you obviously haven't progressed since middle school name calling.


Oldcorps has a firmer grasp on political reality than you. You'd be wise to learn from his wisdom.

Des




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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Destinyone
 


You do know that presidents have very little control over gas prices.

This is where ATS gets stupid. Every other thread is about how presidents try to grab power and freedoms, yet give the credit of every little thing to the president. Everything is the presidents fault. So basically atsers complain about what they willingly give.

He is not a king, he didn't wake up and set the gas prices today.


You don't bash oil companies, restrict drilling in ANWAR and other federal lands, give massive amounts of tax dollars for failed energy gimmicks (wind, solar), reject the Keystone pipeline, dramatically slow offshore drilling and expect gas prices to be stable.

Since Obama took office gas prices for more than DOUBLED. Obama knows he is in trouble, right now he is lying about ever supporting bankrupt SOLYNDRA (even though he gave them over 500 million dollars in stimulus money). He is trying to take credit for a partial pipeline from Oklahoma to Mexico, even though that was already in the works without him. He is considering tapping into the National Oil Reserves again, even though last time he tried that it had no effect on the gas prices. Historically the reserves are only tapped in times of a National emergency, and falling approval ratings are not a national emergency.

So yes...Obama's incompetence has led to the high price of gas.
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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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reply to post by Annee
 


*laughs* I am still waiting for all the links to how Obama is disrespecting the Constitution.

all they can come up with is linking other ATS posts or:

no, you provide a link!

I mean, seriously?




posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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reply to post by Destinyone
 


How cute coming from someone who thinks the president sets the gas prices.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Annee
 


*laughs* I am still waiting for all the links to how Obama is disrespecting the Constitution.

all they can come up with is linking other ATS posts or:

no, you provide a link!

I mean, seriously?



"laughs"...still waiting for links from Annee from last night......


Des



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Stars and Flags for you my friend!

There is SO MUCH bandwidth wasted on these "Birther" and "Socialist" mental masturbation threads, It just makes me sick.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit, if the majority of these people were agents of our enemies (Just pick anyone you like), trying a "Divide and Conquer" strategy.

Well, I'll tell ya, There are still a lot of us out there, (Behind every OTHER blade of grass), who still have a grip on reality..

A good step in the RIGHT direction would be, Bring back "The Fairness Doctrine"

When the Reagan administration trashed that, That is when things started spinning out of control and we started getting all this ultra right-wing, fascist propaganda from the likes of Foxnews, Micheal Savage, Rush Limbaugh, (and the list could go on and on) under the guise of "Entertainment", And the Republicans will never allow it to be reinstated...Why IS that?

Then the Supreme Court puked out a ruling making corporations "people"!
We are just 1 or 2 thousandths of an inch away from being pushed over the cliff into a fascist regime, as the fascists distract us with guns, god and gays...


By the way, I consider myself a "Realist", neither left, right or middle. I want what is best for EVERYBODY!

Need to get off of here a while, let my blood pressure go down, and change the batteries in my keyboard....



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Destinyone
 


How cute coming from someone who thinks the president sets the gas prices.


I'm not here to be cute. You can do that job. I'm dead serious with concern about the loss of my Constitutional Rights. Serious as a heart attack about a President who refuses to recognize his responsibility is to all the people of this Country he is supposed to serve, not just his agenda driven favored few.

Have fun filling your gas tank this summer.....

Des



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Brandon88
reply to post by Annee
 


The Fed has NO right to decide our civil rights or marriage rights. That is to be decided upon on a state level just like everything else.


WHY should marriage be governed by state.

Give me real practical reasons that make sense.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by nixie_nox
 



What do you call giving billions to Brazil so they can drill in their Country, with the promise to buy their oil, while continuing to refuse to sign permits to drill and explore in the Country he WORKS for. What do you call that I ask.


You mean the loan that was approved by the banking committee whose members were all Bush appointees? Obama's weren't even assigned yet when the loan was approved.

Oh that was a bank loan, not a taxpayer loan.By the IM bank, whose job it is to keep American jobs by financing exports.

But why let facts get in the way?



Tip of a very big iceberg of Obama cutting deals to benefit a few select buddies of his and playing world monopoly with tax payers money.


Got any names, or is this more dribble?


Even now, as he is beginning to see his poll numbers tumble due to vetoing the Keystone Pipeline


You mean the approval that just rose to 50%?
And he made it publicly known that he was vetoing the pipeline till there was more information. No one should fast track a potential environmental nightmare.


...he was all over television yesterday outright lying that he is in favor of the pipeline, and is approving a small section of it, even though it didn't require his approval.


He didn't say he was approving it, he was saying he was speeding up the process as much as he could.

The pipeline can't be built without some authorizations from some federal agencies.


...Also claiming the pipeline was stopped by Republicans not him....what a split tongued snake in the grass he is....


He is referring to the amendment the republicans shot down because it required that all the oild produced would be for America's benefit and the companies couldn't export it. And that all of the construction materials would be American made.

See the real snakes in the grass are only benefiting their oil cronies.


...Even Megan Kelly on FOX, after watching the clip of his latest outright lies on the pipeline said...."doesn't he even realize we have youtube, and videos that show him saying the exact opposite....people aren't dumb."


Oh wow now your quoting Fox to back up your claims. There is a reliable source.
lol:



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by IrVulture
A good step in the RIGHT direction would be, Bring back "The Fairness Doctrine"


You know that Michael Powell was head of the FCC.

And Clear Channel is owned and run by Right Wing Christians.

Clear Channel quietly started buying up main towers that smaller radio stations bought time from. Which includes PBS stations. If they did not like what PBS was broadcasting - - they'd pull the plug.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by OldCorp


You really don't know anything about this country do you? It is ALREADY 50 little countries, as it was DESIGNED to be by the Framers. Each state is an independent, Sovereign State (note the capital S) that has a Chief Executive (Governor) and army (National Guard.) The "individual states" came together for mutual protection and economic benefit; BUT a state may secede from the Union at any time, or reject any Federal legislation they desire. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments.


And it probably worked great for 13 colonies and 1.3 million people.

200 years ago.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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The oil companies and certain members of Congress would LOVE for Americans like you to suck up the kool aid and believe that the issue is source. The price of gas has nothing to do with the amount of oil being drilled in this case.

Demand for oil has actually decreased in the US.

It is the commodities traders who are driving the price up. Just like the financial system screwed us over on the housing industry, they are now screwing us over on gas.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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And you have YET to provide any information over what constitutional rights you have lost.

Anne and I are going to throw a big party to celebrate your stepping stone when you do.



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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reply to post by Destinyone
 


Noobie 101 cop out for someone who can't back up anything they are saying.

FAIL



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by jaynkeel
 


The oil companies and certain members of Congress would LOVE for Americans like you to suck up the kool aid and believe that the issue is source. The price of gas has nothing to do with the amount of oil being drilled in this case.

Demand for oil has actually decreased in the US.

It is the commodities traders who are driving the price up. Just like the financial system screwed us over on the housing industry, they are now screwing us over on gas.


Obama....is that you.....



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Destinyone
 


Noobie 101 cop out for someone who can't back up anything they are saying.

FAIL


....you are...almost....funny....



posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by scorpiosin

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by jaynkeel


You mean people like Timothy McVeigh? Home grown terrorists. I suspect there are many more in the works.


Thats the quote that had us all guessing.


Could Timothy McVeigh be classified as a Home Grown Terrorist?

IF credible information had come available prior to his actions - - would it have been beneficial to "hold" him - - while investigating? Without officially charging him?

I say Yes! And support the decision that allows this.

I also understand fully: "With great power comes great responsibility" - - - and trust in government is required.

By Logic - - not emotions - - I support the decision made.



I don't remember the people bestowing this 'great power.' Trusting that there will be no abuse of a power that they should not have had the power to give themselves doesn't seem very logical to me.

Unconditional love would be emotional.


What unconditional love? There is no emotion in my point of view.

I'm well aware of Sir John Dalberg-Acton's statement (part of a letter) :

Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority, still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. en.wikipedia.org...


I believe in and support Progression. Nothing stands still - - nothing stays the same. Chances have to be taken for change. Pros and Cons have to be weighed. Not everyone is going to come to the same conclusion.





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