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Priest Warns Obama: Better Knock the Catholic Church Out NOW

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posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:27 AM
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I cant stand the catholic Church and what was done to those children is awful but your comment has nothing to do with this situation ...Why be petty and childish and make others pay for mistakes of the past ?




posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by adigregorio
You know, at first I was on the Catholics' side.

Then, well then I remembered that those same priests like to touch little boys...

Now, well now I don't really care what happens. I am still "kinda" on their side, but I want to see karma in action. Sorry, but I am human.


I agree but, there are child molesters in every religious faith. Seems we just hear more about the Catholic church, but there are Baptist, Lutheran, Unitarian, etc ministers who have abused children in their churches too. Just wanted to keep it real here, as I grow weary of watching people hate on one faith in particular over these abuses.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:34 AM
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What about the Duggars, who are not Catholic? They use no contraceptives, where the Catholic church encourages Natural Family planning. There is a stigma attached to "large Catholic families". There are large mega families such as the Duggars and the Bates who are Christian conservatives in the Gothard teachings.

I grew up in the Catholic faith. I'm extremely pagan. I am more of a cafeteria Catholic, who does not follow traditional doctrine, and it's that way for many Catholics.

It does not bother me however to read hate against my religion, as I understand that there are many other religions who are also hated on just as much.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:41 AM
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Your right they dont all molest. Some only cover for those that do. I think the good ones have probably gotten out of the way but if they were truly good they would be stamping it out from the inside instead of denying and covering. If I admit a crime in confession dont they have to call the authorities? If only this priest had the same zeal for protecting innocent children in the church's own care as they do with those aborted by others, sorry the hypocricy only nulls his message. in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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Seperation of church and state. The voice of the Vatican should fall on deaf ears in Washington.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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The diabolos slanders the Just and infiltrates the flock as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Those of little faith follow not God's will and are easily seduced into mocking the Saviour.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge
I don't agree with the Catholic Church much but as a Christian I for one tell Obama and his Nazi's to watch your step


Oh Gawd.
BTW - - - Hitler was Catholic.


Adolf Hitler denied Catholicism. Here is a quote from his book "My Struggle aka Mein Kampf":
"The root of the whole evil lay, particularly in Schoenerer's opinion, in the fact that the directing body of the Catholic Church was not in Germany, and that for this very reason alone it was hostile to the interests of our nationality". "The attitude of the Pan-German movement toward the Catholic Church was determined far less by its position on science, etc., than by its inadequacy in the championing of German rights and, conversely, its continued aid and comfort to Slavic arrogance and greed". "Thus, the first theoretical foundation for a struggle of the Pan-German movement against Catholicism..."
And this quote form here, romanchristendom.blogspot.com...
" According to historian Michael Rissmann, young Hitler was influenced in school by Pan-Germanism and began to reject the Church, receiving Confirmation only unwillingly. A boyhood friend reports that after Hitler had left home, he never attended Mass or received the Sacraments again."
This was interesting as well," Raised by a skeptic Catholic father and a devout Catholic mother, Adolf Hitler ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood." from en.wikipedia.org...
Sadly, I noticed this parallel here, "


Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by jlv70
For the record I was born and raised Catholic.

My devout Irish Catholic grandmother tried her best to raise me Catholic.



Pat Levy documented in the book, The Holocaust Causes, 2001, Raintree Stack-Vaughn Publishers, Austin TX, that the 1940 Nazi movie, The Eternal Jew, “attempted to justify the extermination of Jews from Europe. The movie claimed that Jews were genetically destined to be wandering cultural parasites.”

Your quote here brought a chill that ran through my body.

Originally posted by Annee
A bunch of cells are a parasite on the woman's body.

PS
I believe Pope Pius XII could not excommunicate Hitler because he was never confirmed.
edit on 12-3-2012 by Violater1 because: Where is the confirmation of Adolf Hitler??

edit on 12-3-2012 by Violater1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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Two Thumbs Waaay Up for Fr. John, for standing up for the little ones who never made it thru life's door because of abortion..
Plan Parenthood has lost it's true meaning.. really means to prepare to become a parent, not to Kill innocent babies!!
There is no difference between a person who has/had or commits abortion and guys like ted bundy,jeffrey dahmer and wayne gacy, they are all one in the same !



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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i like the backlash by the Catholics...

they are willing to mothball the hospitals and schools they run
rather than submit to practices & class cirriculum which are abhorrent to their life paths

Øbama and the Administrations band of socialists/technocrats want to make abortion & contraception a universal resource. Under Øbama, western religions are meeting resistance compared to the favoritism shown Islam & Sharia law


the Catholics & the Vatican will eventually lose this face-off, because the 'beast' empire will reign supreme and the present power structure is a direct prelude to the emergence of the end-time empire which is a self destructive force


if 80% of babies are not born, just where will the future work force and consumer masses come from?
Hedonism is good to a certain degree, so use contraceptives till the cows come home, but having a next generation is vital for human survival....
Øbama & his handlers are operating out of a (spiritual) stagnant pool of death



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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You have to give the church credit for practicing what they preach. While they rape little boys they have no use for contraceptives or abortions.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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It's probably already stated in this thread but... no time to read all 9 pages.

Either you believe and honor the sanctity of Life or you don't. THAT is the Message the Catholic Church is espousing. The time has come for all people to make their choice.

God Bless,
Av



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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god: wrath is a sin - blow up cities to show who's the boss
god: bow before me - i need the attention
god: create homosexuals - ban homosexuality
god: no worshipping idols - hang cross in your home
god: omnipotent, perfect - jelaous
god: create world for humans - 70% salt water
god: make old testament law - ignore some of it
god: my book is written by me - as much paris hilton`s was written by her
god: unconditional love - with condicions
god: create universe - wait 14 billions years and tell some people in the desert what to do
god: tell how i created universe - conveniently leave first 10 billion years
god: born in non-christian country - doomed
god: if at first you don't succeed - kill everyone
god: aids is killing millions - no condoms
and i could go on for ever with religious twisted logic



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
Much has been made during this presidential cycle about the abortion issue, particularly by candidate Santorum and more recently by the left (they paraded out Sandra Fluke wanting free contraception while attending law school
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Sandra Fluke was not "paraded out", she simply testified before Congress. She was initially BARRED from publicly testifying by Darrell Issa, and no one would have even known who she was if Rush Limbaugh could have kept his giant mouth shut.

Secondly, and most importantly, she did not want free contraception. She wanted women's birth control to be covered by private insurance. Insurance is not free, and unless you are on Medicare, a member of Congress, or a US soldier, its definitely not paid for with other peoples tax dollars. She was testifying on behalf of other women, not herself, who although they already pay for their own insurance premiums and deductables, still have to pay 100% out of pocket for birth control, even though all their other pills and medicines are covered. Birth control was being arbitrarily treated differently from all other prescription drugs, and not being covered by private insurance. Does that make the situation clearer?



Do you believe taxpayers should be funding nationalized healthcare and abortions/contraceptives especially at a time when our nation is trillions in debt?


Although as ive already explained, neither Sandra Fluke nor anyone else is arguing that taxpayers should be funding abortions or contraceptives, paying for birth control would actually be a LOT cheaper than the current situation, where women dont take birth control and then pop out a bunch of kids that taxpayers absolutely DO end up having to pay for, in the form of public education taxes and welfare.

You know it wasnt too long ago that everyone was screaming at women to take more birth control and stop having so many kids they couldnt take care of, and its funny how within a day all the loudest voices seem to all get the same memo from on high and pull an instant 180 and start screaming at women for taking ANY birth control at all. I wouldnt be surprised if there was another child sex scandal somewhere that a few robed figures wouldnt mind distracting us from.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:56 AM
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And thus the Pendulum will swing this time so far to right...



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
What say you?

Do you believe taxpayers should be funding nationalized healthcare and abortions/contraceptives especially at a time when our nation is trillions in debt?


No. But with the issue of HEATH INSURANCE covering abortions and contraceptives, taxpayers aren't responsible. It's the HEATH INSURANCE under "Obamacare" as so many people call it that covers these things. As it currently stands the TAXPAYERS are more responsible for unwanted children. The child tax credits that people receive from children (wanted or unwanted) are directly paid for by us. Now... why should we continue to support these when some soon to be parents don't even want kids?


Originally posted by seabag
Does this issue matter to you at all? Should it?


Doesn't matter to me... but I'm tired of everyone making it seem as though insurance is out of the window when it comes to covering these and it's all government assistance. It's not a welfare program of any sort... let go of the TAX issue.


Originally posted by seabag
Will your vote be strictly about the economy and jobs or will this issue play a role in your decision making process this November?


My vote is going to the President that cares about the common people in this country... not the wealthy, not a document, and not green paper in his/her pocket. It's sad to me that so many people fail to realize who the person is. I'm just glad that I can think rationally and look at the real flaws.


Originally posted by seabag
Doesn't the issue of life and death extend far beyond the realm of religious ideology?


Religion has no place in this whatsoever. So the government shouldn't have any place in it, but the Catholic Church should? As a U.S. citizen, I am bound by the laws of the government. In no way form or fashion do I have to adhere to any religion... that's a choice. If the Catholic Church doesn't want it's members getting abortions... that's for them to take up with their members. The have no jurisdiction over me... and Apathetic Agnostic human.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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I was pointing out how they hide behind their "faith" when they break laws, then hold their "faith" up high when they want other laws to be upheld.

Hypocricy, well not surprised it is a religous story.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by kita0dtita
god: wrath is a sin - blow up cities to show who's the boss
god: bow before me - i need the attention
god: create homosexuals - ban homosexuality
god: no worshipping idols - hang cross in your home
god: omnipotent, perfect - jelaous
god: create world for humans - 70% salt water
god: make old testament law - ignore some of it
god: my book is written by me - as much paris hilton`s was written by her
god: unconditional love - with condicions
god: create universe - wait 14 billions years and tell some people in the desert what to do
god: tell how i created universe - conveniently leave first 10 billion years
god: born in non-christian country - doomed
god: if at first you don't succeed - kill everyone
god: aids is killing millions - no condoms
and i could go on for ever with religious twisted logic


I'm sorry, but I've got to say that I really enjoyed this.

Very clever... did you come up with this yourself?



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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catholic charities is funded to the tune of 85-90% from tax payers.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by MCL1150
There is no difference between a person who has/had or commits abortion and guys like ted bundy,jeffrey dahmer and wayne gacy, they are all one in the same !


Of course theres a difference! Do you think theres no difference between Ted Bundy/Jeffery Dahmer/John Wayne Gacy, and a criminal who kills someone during a robbery, a cop who kills an unarmed suspect, or a soldier who kills a civilian?


Originally posted by St Udio
Øbama and the Administrations band of socialists/technocrats want to make abortion & contraception a universal resource. Under Øbama, western religions are meeting resistance compared to the favoritism shown Islam & Sharia law


Favoritism for Islam and Sharia Law? Over Catholicism? Really?

Name me some Muslim hospitals in America. Name me a few openly Muslim American politicians. Catholics are, right now, openly demanding and having Congressional hearings to literally write Catholic faith into US law. Can you imagine Muslims trying to do that?? Thered be another Civil War!

And i hate to tell you, but no matter what the boys over in Rome think about it, in America, which is governed by the Constitution and not the Pope, abortion and contraception ARE universally guaranteed rights. You are free to disagree with other people partaking of those rights, and you are free to not partake of those rights yourself, but you are not free to take those rights away. If you allow the government to take those rights away, whos to say the Protestants wont come in and take away your right to the Eucharist? According to most Protestants, the Catholic Communion is considered heretical and cannibalistic. Where would it stop? Whose particular form of religion should be in charge?

The Founding Fathers foresaw these problems, they had already experienced the specific kind of tyranny created in Europe when governments were allowed to be run by theocratic Catholic Kings, so they created the Constitution to prevent the government from making any pro-religious laws. But unfortunately, the last 12 years have left that document in shreds.



posted on Mar, 12 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by The X
Is it a pre-requisite for posting in this thread that someone has to have "Respect for the catholic church"?.
How about the respect the catholics showed the millions of south american people, or, the respect the inquisition showed many millions of europeans in its quest to destroy all vestiges of the truth ...


You do realize that this is 2012 and not the year 1200 .... right?
You do realize that less than 200,000 people (that's a high end estimate) died as a result of the crusades, inquisition and South American missionary work combined .. right?
You do realize this is the USA and we have a Constitution to follow ... right?
You do realize the Constitution protects a right to worship as we please .. right?

This is 2012 .. not 1200 ....

Originally posted by Garfee
Are you saying that in the USA a religious organisation has the same rights as an individual?

Look at the 2nd Amendment. Catholics have a right to worship as they wish. That worship includes following the rules put forth by the Catholic Church. The government has no right to step on what the Catholic Church believes. None.



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