The Prison System Is Becoming Big Business in America - The American Gulags

reply to post by ofhumandescent

Yes it's hard to wake up and realize your good old Uncle Sam is a nasty, dirty old man hell bent on robbing you blind and eating your children..................reality bites.

Yes, and trying to convince other people of this fact is like throwing yourself into a fire pit. Too many Americans are still living under the assumption that America is incapable of such corruption....America doesn't do these things.....only OTHER countries do them...and we're the "good guys" that go right the wrongs of those other countries. But what happens when the most powerful country in the world becomes just as corrupt as those other countries? A monster is born. We are a monster now and the population has unwittingly enabled this to happen. Until every single person in this country owns responsibility for their part in allowing this to happen, we will see no significant change. Eventually, the corrupt will crumble because that is how the laws of the universe work. But when will that be?

A one world government sounds appealing to those in power seeking to make that happen, but the history of humanity proves that no one can be top dog...especially when there are so many greedy bastards involved. They will be the cause of their own undoing. Infighting over power will cause their vision to crumble if the masses don't bring them down first.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by liejunkie01

 

Do more research.

If a factory worker made the helmets he/she would be paid at least minimum wage.............in a jail they are paid what $5.00 a week?

Can you spell s.l.a.v.e.r.y. _ l.a.b.o.r.

It's corporations new way of getting free or dirt cheap labor.

WTFU

The prison industry in the United States: big business or a new form of slavery? by Vicky Pelaez link here: www.globalresearch.ca...

Do you read or research?????

I am so tired of having to spoon feed people that simply are too lazy to either care or research.

I really think your reply was unnecessary.

As a matter of fact, I am going to take my flag back.

All I wanted was another source to verify the percentages of goods produced.



I was being nice in my first reply and I even said that I agreed with you.

Have a nice day.

But hasn't this been going on for a long time anyway?

I mean, in some places the "supermax" is the only business for miles around except for gas stations and Wal Mart.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by arbiture

 

theres no end to American creativity where a dollar is involved.

No not America, the Global elite - the 1%. Most Americans are good, decent people being ripped off, torn apart and chewed up.

edit on 9-3-2012 by ofhumandescent because: changed from American elite to Global elite because this is now gone global.

Just because some people have money, some of us actually got it the olds fashioned way, we earned it. Despite the fact my Dad had over time made millions, I never saw a penny, and always expected whatever I got I was taught I had to work for. Good advice for anyone. Anyone with money, real serious money, should spread it around. Its just acting in a decent manner, and its also good business.

I have over 30,000 resumes on file from people who want to work for one or more of my companies. It seems like a " no brainer" but good news travels fast. I pay above average salaries and my people get benefits up the wazu. And thats the way it should be.

reply to post by arbiture


I know quite a few people that have their own business and they are quite well off.
They are good people owning some small and medium size business.

The problem I have is with Large corporations and Wall Street firms that use that money to buy our government, or become politicians to give themselves and their cronies an advantage over everyone else.

They are criminals and traitors to what this country is supposed to be about, which is free and fair markets.

The prison industrial system is about money made off of chatel slavery. The entire system is the "the new jim crow" in America. It is in the business of locking up the black and brown man which detroys the black family which will destroy the communities and soon destroy the nation of black and brown people. Here are some actual facts and you can also look them up on guidetoprison.com

- As of June 2008, there were 2,310,984 Americans held in prisons or local jasils, with 1,540,805 of them under state or federal jusisdiction such as probation or parole.

- This means that one of of every 100 American adultls is incarcerated.

- As of 2009, another 4,933,667 were on probation or parole.

- Added together, the U.S corrections population exceeds 7.4 million people, which is one in every 31 adults.

- Each year over 600,000 people are admitted to state and federal prisons, and over 10,000,000 are incarcerated in local jails.

- This means that every second, 20 americans are sent to jail or prison.

- Statistics will also show that blacks make up about 12-14% of the US population but more than 50% of the prison system previously explained. Along with black and brown faces(those of central and south america, mexican, hispanic or however you choose to classify) combined, they make up the majority of the prison system. This is a social contruct of society not an accident or something that just happened to occur. Our society is designed like this. As explained in Michelle Alexanders' book "The New Jim Crow" the prison industrial complex and system as a whole is about establishing a caste system for people of color primarily black and brown men, women and children. These are also some facts from her book below.

- Black men have been admitted to state prison on drug charges at a rate that is more than thirteen times high than white men.

_ 1 in every 14 black men was behind bars in 2006, compared with 1 in 106 white men

_ 1 in every 9 black men between the ages of twenty and thirty-five was behind bars in 2006. The numbers are no better now in 2012.

_ In 2008 African American youth account for 16 percent of all youth, 28 percent of all juvenile arrests, 35 percent of the youth waived to adult criminal court and 58 percent of the youth admitted to state adult prison.

_ The Supreme Court has now closed the courthouse doors to claims of racial bias at every stage if criminal justice process, from stops and searches to plea bargaining and sentencing even though racial bias highly exist in all these areas.

This is just something to think about. The constitution states that "SLAVERY IS ABOLISHED EXCEPT FOR THE PUNISHMENT OF A CRIME." Now who do you think they are making billions off of. Something to think about. Peace.

Originally posted by jacobe001
reply to post by arbiture

 

I know quite a few people that have their own business and they are quite well off.
They are good people owning some small and medium size business.

The problem I have is with Large corporations and Wall Street firms that use that money to buy our government, or become politicians to give themselves and their cronies an advantage over everyone else.

They are criminals and traitors to what this country is supposed to be about, which is free and fair markets.

Unfortunately certain large companies act very much like all governments. its very easy to get lost among all the noise. Today we see the price of gasoline going through the roof. And yet there is a surplus of refined petroleum products in the American Midwest. And there is also a slight not huge but slight deficit in places on the eastern seaboard like NY of those same fuel is being shipped overseas, by American oil companies.Why? Well its simple. Gas is much more expensive overseas then in the United States,

And thats just ridiculous. I actually was what is that British expression, gob smacked? when Bill O'Rieily said several times on air that the US Government should not allow US companies to sell refined fuel products overseas when the price at the pump is so high. WHAT!...Isn't that socialism, government control of industry which by the way is always a disaster. Something the comical right accuses Obama of being. Please...I actually know some people who are devout socialists. I have no problem telling them their crazy as a loon, but their good and decent people none-the-less. In the end, thats what matters to me...

The business behind it is disgusting indeed. These businessmen have sure their people on top police levels to protect their investment. One happy family.
On the other side...people are pretty sick these days and when I look especially at USA there should be propably more people inside than outside the bars. U really need a firm hand. Look at the internet. I like the freedom but people tend to be evil at the same time. Prisons are filled when civilizations fall.


It's the system itself. Capitalism makes people worse. Look at the amount of violence you are flooding the world in movies (not to mention real agressions) Is it profitable because people like it or more people accept it because it's profitable?

Once a person is sucked into the system, it's all but impossible to get out. I have known a few people ruined by doing time. They get out, can not find any decent jobs.... They either suffer poverty for the rest of their lives, or say screw it and turn to crime to try and make a better life. It's like being sucked into a whirlpool, and it is that way by design.

According to wikipedia America has the highest documented incarceration rate of any nation on Earth.

Also, from 1906 to 2006 the population grew only 2.8 times, but the number of people in prison grew more than 20 times in that same period.

How many laws are there? You don't know.

How many laws are there? It's not like they are required learning in schools.

How many laws are there? Google doesn't even know.

How many laws are there? Any given lawmaker does not know.

How many laws are there?

Do you honestly believe you are going to live long enough to learn the number of laws that exist in America?

Do you honestly believe if we locked up all the existing law makers and did not let them out until they collectively wrote down all the laws word for word from memory they would honestly live long enough to complete the task?

Good luck Americans. I hate to break the news to you, but I highly doubt you are a "law abiding citizen".

reply to post by jacobe001


The common man/woman must follow the law.....................those, like G. W. Bush Jr. are above the law.

Read his record, he did coc aine for god's sake, awol, drunk driving, but he got off.

There are two sets of people in this world, no justice.

Those that do not have to follow the law and those that must adhere to the law.

Again the Prison System is becoming big business in America - step by step, inch by inch.

Again I repeat, not all children get a good start in life, not all children get a hug and a kiss at night (like they should) they get a smack across the head and told, go to bed stupid.

Once you privatize something it doesn't come under scrutiny.

My husband works for a company that is partially federally funded and although he has a high position, he must sign in and out in front of all his work mates exactly like the technical assistants do.

I worked for a private company..........my boss came and went as she pleased, jipped the company time wise, played video golf (we weren't allowed, we had monthly reports of every site we went to as we had a lot of government / state sites we had to go to and if our manager found one site that wasn't "work related" we got our arses chewed out.

two sets of rules = no justice.

You have to watch the watch dog that is watching the chicken house or you're chickens are going to start turning up dead.

People bad mouth the government and maybe in the high levels it's dishonest but my husband has to account for ever single minute of his time and he is under constant scrutiny unlike my boss who held the same position in a private company and could do as she pleased.

Companies are not people they should not be given rights like people.

And everyone should be held accountable for their job equally. Not just the pions.

Of course, now most of the pions are in India.

We, (my household) may have less money, less "things" but I am happy my job was out sourced.

I would rather starve than go back to the daily abuse I withstood for over a decade (the other 6 years I worked under nice bosses, same company).

A prison is a trap for catching time. Good reporting appears often about the inner life of the American prison, but the catch is that American prison life is mostly undramatic—the reported stories fail to grab us, because, for the most part, nothing happens. One day in the life of Ivan Denisovich is all you need to know about Ivan Denisovich, because the idea that anyone could live for a minute in such circumstances seems impossible; one day in the life of an American prison means much less, because the force of it is that one day typically stretches out for decades. It isn’t the horror of the time at hand but the unimaginable sameness of the time ahead that makes prisons unendurable for their inmates. The inmates on death row in Texas are called men in “timeless time,” because they alone aren’t serving time: they aren’t waiting out five years or a decade or a lifetime. The basic reality of American prisons is not that of the lock and key but that of the lock and clock.
That’s why no one who has been inside a prison, if only for a day, can ever forget the feeling. Time stops. A note of attenuated panic, of watchful paranoia—anxiety and boredom and fear mixed into a kind of enveloping fog, covering the guards as much as the guarded. “Sometimes I think this whole world is one big prison yard, / Some of us are prisoners, some of us are guards,” Dylan sings, and while it isn’t strictly true—just ask the prisoners—it contains a truth: the guards are doing time, too. As a smart man once wrote after being locked up, the thing about jail is that there are bars on the windows and they won’t let you out. This simple truth governs all the others. What prisoners try to convey to the free is how the presence of time as something being done to you, instead of something you do things with, alters the mind at every moment. For American prisoners, huge numbers of whom are serving sentences much longer than those given for similar crimes anywhere else in the civilized world—Texas alone has sentenced more than four hundred teen-agers to life imprisonment—time becomes in every sense this thing you serve.
For most privileged, professional people, the experience of confinement is a mere brush, encountered after a kid’s arrest, say. For a great many poor people in America, particularly poor black men, prison is a destination that braids through an ordinary life, much as high school and college do for rich white ones. More than half of all black men without a high-school diploma go to prison at some time in their lives. Mass incarceration on a scale almost unexampled in human history is a fundamental fact of our country today—perhaps the fundamental fact, as slavery was the fundamental fact of 1850. In truth, there are more black men in the grip of the criminal-justice system—in prison, on probation, or on parole—than were in slavery then. Over all, there are now more people under “correctional supervision” in America—more than six million—than were in the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height. That city of the confined and the controlled, Lockuptown, is now the second largest in the United States.

The accelerating rate of incarceration over the past few decades is just as startling as the number of people jailed: in 1980, there were about two hundred and twenty people incarcerated for every hundred thousand Americans; by 2010, the number had more than tripled, to seven hundred and thirty-one. No other country even approaches that. In the past two decades, the money that states spend on prisons has risen at six times the rate of spending on higher education. Ours is, bottom to top, a “carceral state,” in the flat verdict of Conrad Black, the former conservative press lord and newly minted reformer, who right now finds himself imprisoned in Florida, thereby adding a new twist to an old joke: A conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged; a liberal is a conservative who’s been indicted; and a passionate prison reformer is a conservative who’s in one.
The scale and the brutality of our prisons are the moral scandal of American life. Every day, at least fifty thousand men—a full house at Yankee Stadium—wake in solitary confinement, often in “supermax” prisons or prison wings, in which men are locked in small cells, where they see no one, cannot freely read and write, and are allowed out just once a day for an hour’s solo “exercise.” (Lock yourself in your bathroom and then imagine you have to stay there for the next ten years, and you will have some sense of the experience.) Prison rape is so endemic—more than seventy thousand prisoners are raped each year—that it is routinely held out as a threat, part of the punishment to be expected. The subject is standard fodder for comedy, and an uncoöperative suspect being threatened with rape in prison is now represented, every night on television, as an ordinary and rather lovable bit of policing. The normalization of prison rape—like eighteenth-century japery about watching men struggle as they die on the gallows—will surely strike our descendants as chillingly sadistic, incomprehensible on the part of people who thought themselves civilized. Though we avoid looking directly at prisons, they seep obliquely into our fashions and manners. Wealthy white teen-agers in baggy jeans and laceless shoes and multiple tattoos show, unconsciously, the reality of incarceration that acts as a hidden foundation for the country.

Read more www.newyorker.com...

reply to post by PapagiorgioCZ


Almost 50% of kids never even get a good start..............never know love, are told they are stupid, put into "special ed" and bullied by not only an abusive parent (most come from broken homes because people can't plan their life right before bringing a baby into it) and more and more dumb people are populating vs smart people who are able to hold off and make sure their life is ready and stable before taking on a baby.

It begins in the cradle and Hollywood is just as much to blame with the frap it shows now.

Again, parents have to work such long hard hours and kids from the age of 8-9 (commoners not aristocratic people who have nannies and governesses) are left to being baby sat by the TV, video games and the local gangs that at least make them feel like they are a part of some kind of family.

You all don't see where it begins and how TPTB want more "slaves" they want your kid and my kid to end up under their slave labor camps..............this is the placement of the New World Order and most of you just simply don't see it.

Yes, hurting someone is wrong and they should be put away.

Thank Reagan for closing down 85% of the mental health institutions in the 80's.

We now have massive numbers of mentally challenged and low IQ people in prison that should be possibly (some of them) in mental asylums.

My half brother died in a prison, he deserved to - he held a bank up at gun point.

But some guy that has a bag of that which we cannot name (sounds like Harry Potter)

It's almost like the Ministry of Magic has taken over with Lord Voldermort as the Over Lord.

After watching Madonna's Super Bowl half time special -- I wonder

Y'all better wake up, unite and rebel because there are dark times ahead for this planet if everyone stays asleep.

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Ohio Governor John Kasich made history yesterday - as Ohio became the first state in the history of this country to sell a state-owned prison to a for-profit private corporation. The Lake Erie Correctional Institute opened up in 2000 - and at the end of this year will be officially owned and operated by the Corrections Corporation of America - also known as CCA - which shelled out $72 million bucks to buy the facility from the state - and will now get paid for every single new prisoner they lock up. Cliff Schecter joins Thom - he is the National Progressive PR strategist at Libertas LLC.

You don't recognize each year we have more law being made every year, laws upon laws upon laws and yet only one group spends real "time"................the common man.

reply to post by arbiture

Unfortunately certain large companies act very much like all governments.

Act like! That's because they are the government.

reply to post by boncho




Again, small criminal that are poor and can't afford good lawyers go to prison.

Rich people that wreck millions upon millions of lives are allowed to continue on their merry way.

In my book that is injustice and we are going to hand over our prison system to the private companies that already run America....................it just keeps getting crazier and crazier.

reply to post by liejunkie01


I apologize if I came across rude.

keep your star, I don't care about stars and flags................only the truth and waking people up.

I'm the mama cow screaming, slaughter house slaughter house up ahead, jump off.

Now: Here is the info you asked for.

dimewars.com... cmediaid=13a8bbe2-322b-46dc-b100-36d1adca60fa

www.democraticunderground.com...

reality-bytes.hubpages.com...

I'm getting old and tired you young uns are gonna have to learn to do your research yourself.

One day soon, I guarantee you your son, daughter, niece, nephew, grand child will be rounded up for breaking one of the many laws, millions of laws, hundreds added yearly for the sole purpose of catching and enslaving us.

I sincerely hope you have the money to afford good legal council.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by boncho

 

Again, small criminal that are poor and can't afford good lawyers go to prison.

Rich people that wreck millions upon millions of lives are allowed to continue on their merry way.

In my book that is injustice and we are going to hand over our prison system to the private companies that already run America....................it just keeps getting crazier and crazier.

Oh brother, or sister I cant tell but have you spoken the truth today! Look at what happened with OJ Simpson. Is it just my delusion or did he not have half the lawyers in America on his payroll? But basterds get their just deserts in time as he did. Even money after a time can't shield you if your an ass ****.

reply to post by jacobe001


starred............and they are fleecing people "legally' so getting away with it.

Fair?

Unjust?

Starred your post, you seem aware of the situation.

reply to post by arbiture


Was your dad's job outsourced to india at age 57?

Get this, our government has sold out to the lowest bidder and that includes now slave labor.

I say everyone gets a common equal start in life not just the elite 1%.

Justice for all - that is all I am asking for.

Justice for all - the same rules for everyone.

reply to post by TKDRL


Very asute post.

Try and get out of the box the 'syetem' places you into.

Please you younger ones, wake up, unite and rebel or your children will live as slaves.