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Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why would anyone want to deny women birth control?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Bravo Obama...good for you. Maybe some conservatives can take some notes on how to make a statement on the issue while staying above the pettiness.
And this is the difference between liberals and conservatives.
Liberal view on women using contraception: It is their right to be able to plan their future with contraception, it is a medical issue and thus should be covered under health insurance.
Conservative view on women using contraception: They are whores and sluts who should keep their legs closed.
The same type of thinking goes for homosexuals, the poor, and immigrants.
Liberals on homosexuals: They are people too, government shouldn't rule who you should love. Their HUMAN rights should be protected.
Conservatives on homosexuals: Screw em, They are disgusting perverts and should be shamed into conforming to MY views.
Liberals on the poor: We should help people who have fallen on hard times.
Conservatives on the poor: Screw em, they are lazy idiots that just want to leech off of us.
Liberals on immigrants: We should be accepting to people who want to come here and make a better life for themselves, we should make it easier on them to come here legally.
Conservative on immigrants: Screw em...they look different, speak different, and act different than "true" Americans...we got here first...they can go back to where they came from.
I really think people who have voted Republican for decades may finally be waking up to the fact that they have been decieved to vote against their own, and fellow countrymens, interests.edit on 2-3-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
And this is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberal view on women using contraception: It is their right to be able to plan their future with contraception, it is a medical issue and thus should be covered under health insurance. Conservative view on women using contraception: They are whores and sluts who should keep their legs closed.
Originally posted by IamCorrect
Originally posted by jessejamesxx
While I don't think it's the governments position to be buying anyone birth control.. I don't see anything "immoral" or wrong about it.
But the government isn't really buying anything. It's the taxpayers that will be buying it.
The question is whether there are certain personal items that people should be buying for themselves instead of expecting the public at large to be buying it for them. Health coverage is intended to compensate for treatment of illness, not to compensate for safety equipment or drugs used for daily recreational activities.
Originally posted by mugger
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
It's not being thrown onto the tax payers. The misinformation campaign is working I see. Telling insurance companies that they have to cover contraception has NOTHING to do with the tax payers.
Yes it is being forced onto the taxpayers. It isn't free and will just put the taxpayers premium higher. and from page 1, who is being denied birth control and how? Rubbers are cheap, abstinence is free. If the parents can afford to pay for Georgetown, they can pay for her pills.
Originally posted by dannotz
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Bravo Obama...good for you. Maybe some conservatives can take some notes on how to make a statement on the issue while staying above the pettiness.
And this is the difference between liberals and conservatives.
Liberal view on women using contraception: It is their right to be able to plan their future with contraception, it is a medical issue and thus should be covered under health insurance.
Conservative view on women using contraception: They are whores and sluts who should keep their legs closed.
The same type of thinking goes for homosexuals, the poor, and immigrants.
Liberals on homosexuals: They are people too, government shouldn't rule who you should love. Their HUMAN rights should be protected.
Conservatives on homosexuals: Screw em, They are disgusting perverts and should be shamed into conforming to MY views.
Liberals on the poor: We should help people who have fallen on hard times.
Conservatives on the poor: Screw em, they are lazy idiots that just want to leech off of us.
Liberals on immigrants: We should be accepting to people who want to come here and make a better life for themselves, we should make it easier on them to come here legally.
Conservative on immigrants: Screw em...they look different, speak different, and act different than "true" Americans...we got here first...they can go back to where they came from.
I really think people who have voted Republican for decades may finally be waking up to the fact that they have been decieved to vote against their own, and fellow countrymens, interests.edit on 2-3-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)
Great observation, you really hit the nail on the head.
And "petty" is the perfect word for how a lot of conservatives answer to where they stand on certain issues.
It's a nasty attitude, and a ignorant view on humanity.
good post
Originally posted by monkeyluv
This will probably not be the only thing that citizens will ask government to support.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why would anyone want to deny women birth control?
That's not accurate. We don't want to support birth control with our own money. Having sex is not a medical emergency.
Originally posted by Nana2
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why would anyone want to deny women birth control?
Why would anyone WANT to pay for someone else's birth control? I don't! and that is the issue here, she wants public health care AKA obamacare to pay for HER promiscuity.
Originally posted by zerotime
The far right republican are simply crazy. They want to control every aspect of your life. They hate minorities. They hate woman. They hate religions other than Christianity. And they hate other sexual orientations. They want to live in a world that's black and white, well white and white, where there are no degree of difference. Everyone must be exactly and robotically the same. But it's all a sham - how can i tell? Because Viagra is also covered but we haven't heard one peep from faux outraged males. and if you're going to insure viagra for all these losers that can't get erections then you better insure birth control.
I guess you've never known anyone with cystic ovaries.
Originally posted by digginforthetruth
While I don't agree with the manner in which he said it, I don't think contraception should be something thrown on the taxpayers. Why should I have to pay for it. I have been married for 10 yrs and we didn't have a kids until we were 5 yrs into it. We used condoms. We never used birth control, but even if we did, why the hell should I expect someone else to pay for it. I don't see birth control as health care. I see it as pregnancy prevention, not health care.
Because if you wont, poor people will have more unwanted children -> more criminality and social system strain -> more taxes needed for police and social system funding, or decreased quality of life.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Maslo
Because if you wont, poor people will have more unwanted children -> more criminality and social system strain -> more taxes needed for police and social system funding, or decreased quality of life.
Poor people have been having children since Adam and Eve. Theft and crime are problems of moral decline, not how much someone makes for a living. Rich people commit terrible crimes too, Bernie Madoff anyone?
Originally posted by Azadok
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Maslo
Because if you wont, poor people will have more unwanted children -> more criminality and social system strain -> more taxes needed for police and social system funding, or decreased quality of life.
Poor people have been having children since Adam and Eve. Theft and crime are problems of moral decline, not how much someone makes for a living. Rich people commit terrible crimes too, Bernie Madoff anyone?
It's not about being poor in money that develops a person it is moral character and parenting , both of these are in short supply today . Parents have their hands tied by big brother on how they raise a difficult child they are forced to spare the rod which entitles the child .