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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Prove me wrong.
Well, i am a teacher who was laid off because of budget cut, and needed assistance until I could get a new position.
oops, you were just proven wrong.
Now, Ill wait for you to back up your lies in any way...go on.....
Okay, but thats one person, out of how many millions of welfare? Hardly proof. And how long did you need to get a new position? I gather not any significant amount of time. You would have been just fine getting your food at a government store, and holding off your votes until you could get a job.
I know of plenty of teachers in the exact same position.
Can you provide any proof, at all, that most on welfare are lazy, drive spendy cars, etc? You made the claim, now prove it...
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Prove me wrong.
Well, i am a teacher who was laid off because of budget cut, and needed assistance until I could get a new position.
oops, you were just proven wrong.
Now, Ill wait for you to back up your lies in any way...go on.....
Okay, but thats one person, out of how many millions of welfare? Hardly proof. And how long did you need to get a new position? I gather not any significant amount of time. You would have been just fine getting your food at a government store, and holding off your votes until you could get a job.
I know of plenty of teachers in the exact same position.
Can you provide any proof, at all, that most on welfare are lazy, drive spendy cars, etc? You made the claim, now prove it...
If the teachers who were all laid off, with no money now because of no job, if they had planned for something like this, and put money away, then they would be okay. But now because they didn't plan for that, they want other people to pay for it. That sounds lazy to me.
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Prove me wrong.
Well, i am a teacher who was laid off because of budget cut, and needed assistance until I could get a new position.
oops, you were just proven wrong.
Now, Ill wait for you to back up your lies in any way...go on.....
Okay, but thats one person, out of how many millions of welfare? Hardly proof. And how long did you need to get a new position? I gather not any significant amount of time. You would have been just fine getting your food at a government store, and holding off your votes until you could get a job.
I know of plenty of teachers in the exact same position.
Can you provide any proof, at all, that most on welfare are lazy, drive spendy cars, etc? You made the claim, now prove it...
If the teachers who were all laid off, with no money now because of no job, if they had planned for something like this, and put money away, then they would be okay. But now because they didn't plan for that, they want other people to pay for it. That sounds lazy to me.
Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by Laokin
Don't rely on other people. Ride my bike to work. If I wanted to, I could afford to move to a 1 room apartment for myself, but I usually only go home to sleep, so it doesn't make sense for me right now. I don't rely on anyone except my self.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by andersensrm
You continue to make these statments, with zero backing. I had a savings above $10,000 when I got laid off. I stretched it as far as I could.
Many people simply do not make enough to save for hard times.
What of those who have had a life crisis which took away what they had?
Why do you continue to avoid your burden of proof on these claims?
Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by Laokin
Don't rely on other people. Ride my bike to work. If I wanted to, I could afford to move to a 1 room apartment for myself, but I usually only go home to sleep, so it doesn't make sense for me right now. I don't rely on anyone except my self.
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by andersensrm
You continue to make these statments, with zero backing. I had a savings above $10,000 when I got laid off. I stretched it as far as I could.
Many people simply do not make enough to save for hard times.
What of those who have had a life crisis which took away what they had?
Why do you continue to avoid your burden of proof on these claims?
Well then you would go on welfare, for however long you needed to. It won't be the end of the world, if for a few months, or possibly years, you would have to endure shopping at another store, and not being able to vote, I don't see how this is sooo horrible.
Originally posted by drgood
I think if people shift their thinking from a welfare system to that of the situation in africa we can gain a better perpective. It's a terrible situation for someone to be poor, but at some point these people need to help themselves. If you disagree sell your computer right now and feed a child for a year, anything less is hypocritical.
Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by Laokin
You have to be prepared. Simple as that. We can't build a civilization where people rely on things other than themselves to get by. Not to say that some people NEED these things due to an assortment of reasons. But as of NOW, the system is being abused. This needs to stop. I think what was proposed in the OP is a step forward in doing that.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by andersensrm
You continue to make these statments, with zero backing. I had a savings above $10,000 when I got laid off. I stretched it as far as I could.
Many people simply do not make enough to save for hard times.
What of those who have had a life crisis which took away what they had?
Why do you continue to avoid your burden of proof on these claims?
Well then you would go on welfare, for however long you needed to. It won't be the end of the world, if for a few months, or possibly years, you would have to endure shopping at another store, and not being able to vote, I don't see how this is sooo horrible.
Its so horrible because it is taking away my constitutional right for no apparent reason other than some snobby fools think its a good idea.
Why do you still avoid, and divert, from your burden of proof?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by andersensrm
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by andersensrm
You continue to make these statments, with zero backing. I had a savings above $10,000 when I got laid off. I stretched it as far as I could.
Many people simply do not make enough to save for hard times.
What of those who have had a life crisis which took away what they had?
Why do you continue to avoid your burden of proof on these claims?
Well then you would go on welfare, for however long you needed to. It won't be the end of the world, if for a few months, or possibly years, you would have to endure shopping at another store, and not being able to vote, I don't see how this is sooo horrible.
Its so horrible because it is taking away my constitutional right for no apparent reason other than some snobby fools think its a good idea.
Why do you still avoid, and divert, from your burden of proof?