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The exception of children outside the birth canal from abortion-logic was always unprincipled, and its abandonment now is not a deviation from liberalism but a fulfillment of it. “My body, my choice,” if taken as a moral imperative, doesn’t cease to be imperative ten seconds after delivery. After all, the newborn child is still dependent on its mother; dependency doesn’t cease the moment the baby slides squalling into the world. It still represents a constraint on her will and a drain on time and resources she might prefer to spend otherwise. It still represents an obligation, a duty, something transcendent that binds her and makes her unfree, and this liberalism cannot ever permit.
What they seem to be saying is that the baby is objectively ontologically worthless — that subjective valuations are all that can meaningfully be attached to it, and these must necessarily be arbitrary. A mother can decide she wants to keep her baby, but this decision can never be rooted in an objective ontological valuation of the child.
The exception of children outside the birth canal from abortion-logic was always unprincipled, and its abandonment now...
Sorry bud, i knew someone would say that, I am also American but my parent where born in Russia. I am very aware that all Americans are not ignorant, but as a whole i would have to say that the majority of them have their heads shoved farther up their asses then the rest of the civilized world. Most people in Russia go to church, believe in God and know right from wrong.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by discharged77
There is no such thing as an "American Attitude". There are tons of Americans that are against abortions anyway.
You can't generalize 300 million people.
Originally posted by MeesterB
It might be easy to be upset by this "expert" opinion because it could lead to killing babies. I kind of welcome it as a way to decide the abortion issue. People lie to themselves in order to make it seem okay just removing a fetus in the womb. Maybe now abortion will be truly synonymous with baby-killing. No more moral dodging or hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Unity_99
. Well many of us don't think abortions should be performed, at least in the last 2 trimesters when consciousness develops quickly.
This is outrageous.
Originally posted by SteffieJo
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge
So that teenage girl who gives birth to her baby in a bathroom, kills it, and then throws it in a dumpster, isn't doing anything wrong? Or does she actually have to take it to a Dr. to kill it? Because that would be the right thing to do. Babies aren't "morally relevant"? This article disgusts me!
Throughout most of Lakota history, family and community were the foundations of life. And for the Lakota, family did not just end at one’s immediate relatives (i.e., siblings, parents, and children). Instead, different families that were bound by blood or marriage ties united together to form a social unit called a tiyospaye, which translates to “member extended family.”
For the Lakota, each person’s acts were often measured in terms of its impact on the entire tiyospaye, and people within the tiyospaye aligned and cooperated together for the good of all of its members. And even though several leaders headed each tiyospaye, there was still a sense of equality among all people. ...
Lakota life was also based on affinity, which to the Lakota involved:
living in harmony with others
having a sense of belonging to one’s community
valuing interpersonal relationships
trusting one another
The ideal of affinity was so strong in the Lakota society that it even went outside the boundaries of one’s tiyospaye and extended to the entire Lakota nation.
First Philosophy - TO THE WOMEN
The cycle of life for the woman is the baby, girl, woman, and grandmother.
These are the four directions of life.
She has been given by natural laws the ability to reproduce life. The most sacred of all things in life.
Therefore, all men should treat her with dignity and respect.
Never was it our way to harm her mentally or physically. Indian men were never abusers. We always treated our women with respect and understanding.
So, from now on,
I will treat women in a sacred manner.
The Creator gave women the responsibility for bringing new life into the world. Life is sacred, so I will look upon women in a sacred manner.
In our traditional ways, the woman is the foundation of the family......
Second Philosophy - TO THE CHILDREN
As an eagle prepares its young to leave the nest with all the skills and knowledge it needs to participate in life, in the same manner so I will guide my children.
I will use the culture to prepare them for life.
The most important thing I can give to my children is my time.
I will spend time with them in order to learn them and to listen to them.
I will teach my children to pray, as well as the importance of respect.
We are the caretakers of the children for the Creator. They are his children, not ours.
I am proud of our Native language. I will learn it if I can and help my children to learn it.
In today's world it is easy for the children to go astray, so I will work to provide positive alternatives for them....
Fourth Philosophy - TO THE COMMUNITY
The Indian community provides many things for the family. The most important is the sense of belonging; that is, to belong to "the people", and to have a place to go. Our Indian communities need to be restored to health so the future generation will be guaranteed a place to go for culture, language and Indian socializing. In he community, the honor of one is the honor of all and the pain of one is the pain of all. I will work to strengthen recovery in all parts of my community.
As an Indian man,
I will give back to my community by donating my time and talents when I am able.
I will cultivate friendships with other Indian men for mutual support and strength.