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Originally posted by BrianDamage
IMO.
Animals don't have any rights.
Neither do humans for that matter, (we are animals too).
So called "rights" are a man-made concept.
They don't actually mean anything.
We designate "rights" to different things, but they are subject to change as situations dictate.
If they are subject to change, then they are not "rights".
Some say it's wrong to kill animals, but it's ok to kill in certain circumstances, therefore, the so called "rights" are null and void.
Originally posted by dadank
Some people point to the wildlife. "Lions brutally kill their prey." But they don't kill prey, then just leave their body. They kill only as much as they need. This world has enough room to meet everyone's needs, not everyone's greed.
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
Originally posted by BrianDamage
IMO.
Animals don't have any rights.
Neither do humans for that matter, (we are animals too).
So called "rights" are a man-made concept.
They don't actually mean anything.
We designate "rights" to different things, but they are subject to change as situations dictate.
If they are subject to change, then they are not "rights".
Some say it's wrong to kill animals, but it's ok to kill in certain circumstances, therefore, the so called "rights" are null and void.
Possibly a better way I could have said this is " Do humans have a moral responsibility when it comes to killing and eating animals"
Originally posted by Bluesma
reply to post by BrianDamage
No, "rights" refers to an agreed upon value and rule within a collective grouping.
A society can agree upon a certain right that is to be accorded to certain beings, and that can be forfeited in specific cases. It's like a law, and in some cases become a written law.
Originally posted by ShadowAngel85
reply to post by Qumulys
All hail, funnily enough we had chicken for dinner tonight
I think we have enough laws for animals and how to produce, raise and kill them. For example battery cages for chicken are forbidden here in Germany since 2009, which is a good thing i guess. I once had eggs from a battery and they tasted really awful compared to the eggs we otherwise buy at a farmer who lets his hens run around in an open field and feeds them some natural stuff.
Animals kill each other in a very brutal fashion, if you ever saw some Lions rip some animals to shred and start eating it while it's still alive, i wonder why a small group of humans go crazy about how we kill animals. We do it for the most part in a very quick and by all accounts painless fashion. Especially compared to how Animals kill and eat and i always wondered, why, if PETA and those Animal lovers are so concerned about them, never went out to teach a Lion how to kill another animal in a "humane" way or show them the disgusting world of Tofu (Though i would really love to see this, some PETA guy shoving a handful of Tofu under a Lion's nose...he wouldn't live very long )
Also: Animals don't give us rights or threat us in a 'humane' way. If there's a crazy, hungry Tiger out there, does anyone believe that he thinks "Hmmm...i'm hungry, but eating humans is wrong, well, i guess i will stay hungry"? No, he jumps at the next human he sees and starts to eat him.
So why should we give them rights? We use them for food, they same way they use themselves for food. It's nature's way and there's nothing wrong with it.
Originally posted by Aleister
reply to post by MountainLaurel
Nah, stop eating other animals. Common sense. When chimps, in rare occasions, kill monkeys for "food" what they go for first is where "vitamin C" is stored. They want the ascorbic acid, not the meat. Humans eating other animals is as strange a habit as we have picked up as a species.
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by Aleister
Not a good example to hold up though, is it? If i am not mistaken, primates are not capable of going into space, flying, inventing computers, etc. Maybe the fact we eat what we fancy has helped in some unnoticed ways in evolution? (don't know, just throwing it out there).
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by MountainLaurel
I think your daughter was right.. When we have such a choice of foods there is no need to kill animals..
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by MountainLaurel
I think your daughter was right.. When we have such a choice of foods there is no need to kill animals..