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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by pianopraze
But with all thinks MK there is lots of disinfo mixed in with the real info... it is very hard to separate.


I think that what's important is that it's clear that MK ULTRA is real and it is to be expected that disinformation would be mixed in with truth about exotic technologies and events, but that is irrelevant. What is relevant is the evil of this black program, which has many sub-projects, and the need for humanity to educate ourselves as step one to putting a stop to it.


Absolutely.

I've got so much info on this... i need to make a huge
thread on it but it Crosses so many subject matters that it is hard to narrow. at one point i had a two inch thick binder of printouts.... hard to narrow down to a thread on here.

and that is not including this complete release of cia info on MK here:black vault




posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by pianopraze
. . . it is an old and deep form of magic that really works.

I have tried to learn about it, viewing it as a technology. I have the books Real Magic by Isaac Bonewits and real energy by Phaedra & Isaac Bonewits, but they didn't help me understand at all.


Originally posted by pianopraze
If your interested here are a lot of books you can freely download and come to an understanding of what they are doing without haveing to explore the darker sides: link.


Yes, I am interested; thanks for the link.


Originally posted by pianopraze
This book in particular has a whole Doctorate degree in philosophy plus more - I checked it against some Doctorate courses, and it is only one book on that list: The Secret Teaching of All Ages.


I have that book and I struggled through it from cover to cover a couple years ago. One thing that stands out in my mind is how irritated I was with the expression "the profane" and how they're not worthy!




Originally posted by pianopraze
And yes, they were both named as molesters in the suit on the Presidio in San Francisco... I posted links earlier in this thread with the actual court documents and a lot more info if you want to scroll back and look that up.


The article was talking about criminal charges, I presume, whereas a suit would be a civil matter, I'm assuming.


Originally posted by pianopraze
Aquino is one of the key figures in a lot of things discussed in this thread in my opinion.


I am amazed at what Dietrich said about Aquino having been the officially recognized Satanic Chaplain of the U.S. Army. I did some google searches trying to locate something official online from the Army on this. Do you know how we can research this?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by pianopraze
. . . it is an old and deep form of magic that really works.

I have tried to learn about it, viewing it as a technology. I have the books Real Magic by Isaac Bonewits and real energy by Phaedra & Isaac Bonewits, but they didn't help me understand at all.

Yes, I am interested; thanks for the link.

I have that book and I struggled through it from cover to cover a couple years ago. One thing that stands out in my mind is how irritated I was with the expression "the profane" and how they're not worthy!


The article was talking about criminal charges, I presume, whereas a suit would be a civil matter, I'm assuming.

I am amazed at what Dietrich said about Aquino having been the officially recognized Satanic Chaplain of the U.S. Army. I did some google searches trying to locate something official online from the Army on this. Do you know how we can research this?


11:11 am as I start to write this... and I haven't slept in 24 hours so this will be my last response for a while, I have to at least try to sleep.

I don't know about Aquino as a satanic chaplain, I do remember hearing something about wican chaplains were in the Army when I was in... vaguely recall some discussion of satanic chaplain but i disremember if it was when i was in or an article I've read in some military newsletters I receive...

I do have this link which I posted earlier which might explain what you are thinking... maybe not, I'll let you decide:

Indeed, the Pentagon had already given its de facto blessings to Aquino's long-standing public association with the Church of Satan and his own successor "church," the Temple of Set. This, despite the fact that Aquino's Satanic activities involved overt support for neo-Nazi movements in the United States and Europe. On October 10, 1983, while traveling in West Germany on "official NATO business," Aquino had staged a Satanic "working" at the Wewelsburg Castle in Bavaria. Aquino wrote a lengthy account of the ritual, in which he invoked Nazi SS chief Heinrich Himmler: "As the Wewelsburg was conceived by Heinrich Himmler to be the 'Mittelpunkt der Welt' ('Middle of the World'), and as the focus of the Hall of the Dead was to be the Gate of that Center, to summon the Powers of Darkness at their most powerful locus."

As early as April 1978, the U.S. Army had circulated A Handbook for Chaplains "to facilitate the provision of religious activities." Both the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set were listed among the "other" religions to be tolerated inside the U.S. military. A section of the handbook dealing with Satanism stated, "Often confused with witchcraft, Satanism is the worship of Satan (also known as Baphomet or Lucifer). Classical Satanism, often involving 'black masses,' human sacrifices, and other sacrilegious or illegal acts, is now rare. Modern Satanism is based on both the knowledge of ritual magick and the 'anti-establishment' mood of the 1960s. It is related to classical Satanism more in image than substance, and generally focuses on 'rational self-interest with ritualistic trappings.'

No so fast! In 1982, the Temple of Set fissured over the issue of Aquino's emphasis on Nazism. One leader, Ronald K. Barrett, shortly after his expulsion, wrote that Aquino had "taken the Temple of Set in an explicitly Satanic direction, with strong overtones of German National Socialist Nazi occultism ... One fatality has occurred within the Temple membership during the period covered May 1982-July 1983."

link
It also talks about some of the other stuff we've referenced recently like one of the law suits/criminal charges... forgive me if i'm using wrong language things are getting rather fuzzy from lack of sleep etc...

That book is written less in occulted form than others, and reveals a lot, but still hides more... with all this stuff the more you know the more you recognize the more you learn the more you recognize the more you learn.... I'm sure your familiar.

Your welcome for the link, a lot of good materials in there... many of them are very heavily occluded... I still learn a lot... i'm but a child in knowledge and know how little I know...



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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Umm -- James Moseley of Saucer Smear says Travis story doesn't add up -- Exposes on the Travis Walton story here

Chip Coffey's psychic upbringing

If you believe this -- personally I think Chip Coffey is also a fake

An expose book on Chip Coffey


Perhaps the most grievous error repeatedly made by the team of para-jounalists of Paradacity was in allowing Mr. Coffey to make frequent false claims concerning my book Paranormal Reality: Investigating Paranormal State. In this book it's proven beyond any rational doubt that the show was staged, scripted and most of the paranormal claims were either fake or non-existent. Mr. Coffey was allowed to attack the credibility of our evidence and research by saying, "Claiming to have on set sources I call that bulls***." In response you hear one of the ladies say: "Uh huh." This means she takes the stance that the hosts agree with Mr. Coffey. Did Mr. Coffey and the staff at Paradacity take the time to: 1] actually read the entire book? 2] Cover the same ground that we did in our research of this subject? Unless they did, they aren't ethically allowed to make and/or support the making of such statements. By doing so, the show stopped being an unbiased presentation of information and became an advertorial for Mr. Coffey. It's easy to attack a subject and others' credibility when the other side is not allowed to refute such attacks.


podcast interview with author of expose book on Paranormal State as fake


Edgar Fouche 01-26-2012, 04:39 AM . This is what I know and have received. He is a convicted sex offender, was never a Seal, and Dishonarably Discharged from the Navy. He's full of crap. Ed Naval Criminal Investigative Service / Re: William Newel Brockbrader, aka Bill Wood, Stolen Valor / 27130 Telegraph Road / Quantico, VA 22134 / ncis[DOT]navy.mil/ContactUs/Pa-ges/default[DOT].aspx Your Code No: W840-507 / Your Password: **** / There have been several complaints filled in this 'Stolen Valor' case. Also a complaint against Project Camelot-Kerry Cassidy. To promote a fake, ex-con, & convicted sex offender as a Seal with no documentation is unforgivable. I verified this. Incoming! When he talks about seeing one type of near speed of light spacecraft he was in prison. Must have been BIG windows at Leavenworth. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Claims: Ex-Navy Seal, member of Seal Team 9, joined Navy in June 91, Fire Control A school, Tomahawk cruise missiles, psychic training @ Area 51, assigned to middle east, Iraq, Indigo clearance (BS!), put in psych ward for 6 months following an assault on a Seal, claims Navy bombed innocent natives on purpose, says he was in prison (Leavenworth) from courts-martial for 3 years, registered sex offender, Utah, discharge Navy in June 01, fiction writer. Liar and Criminal. Shame on Proj. Camelot!


Confirmation of Project Camelot promoting a sex offender liar as a supposed super soldier
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by pianopraze

As early as April 1978, the U.S. Army had circulated A Handbook for Chaplains "to facilitate the provision of religious activities." Both the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set were listed among the "other" religions to be tolerated inside the U.S. military.


I found a 17 page .pdf about this pamphlet housed on the "Our Library" page of the website alleeshadowtradition.com. The .pdf is dated February 6, 2002, is by Aquino, and is entitled "U.S. Army Chaplains Handbook - Temple of Set."

From page one:


Introduction to this File

- by Michael A. Aquino VI° [He's the 6th? And what's that superscript indicating?]
Lt. Colonel, USAR-Ret
February 6, 2002

In 1978 the U.S Department of the Army contracted the Institute for the Study of
American Religion (ISAR) to produce DA Pamphlet 165-13: Religious Requirements and
Practices of Certain Selected Groups - A Handbook for Chaplains.
The first edition appeared
in 1978 and included the Temple of Set only by mention of its name.

In 1992 ISAR revised and updated the Pamphlet, this time with input from the Temple of
Set. The “DA Pamphlet” designation was not included on the cover, and a “disclaimer of Army
policy” added to the title page, but the fact remains that this is an official Department of the Army publication distributed by the Chief of Chaplains to all command chaplains. Its contents may not be disregarded by commanders in consideration of the religious beliefs and affiliations of personnel in their units.

This file consists of extracts from the revised Pamphlet pertinent to the Temple of Set,
being the general introduction, the introduction to the section of the Pamphlet in which the
Temple of Set description is contained, and the Temple of Set description itself. The Pamphlet’s entire table of contents is also included as a matter of interest.

Until recently the entire Pamphlet was available for download from the Internet at:

www-cgsc.army.mil...

... but as of this date is for an unknown reason no longer accessible . . .


It is interesting to see what the handbook says about Satanism. On page 11:


SATANISM

Often confused with Neo-Paganism and Wicca, Satanism is the worship of Satan (also
known as Baphomet or Lucifer). Classical Satanism, often involving “black masses”, human
sacrifice, and other sacrilegious or illegal acts, is now rare. Modern Satanism is based on both
the knowledge of ritual magick and the “anti-establishment” mood of the 1960s. It is related to classical Satanism more in image than substance, and generally focuses on “rational selfinterest with ritualistic trappings”. Modern Satanism began with the Church of Satan, founded by Anton LaVey in 1966. From it, in the 1970s, several groups emerged and quickly disappeared. The Temple of Set is the only substantive offshoot to survive into the 1980s.

Modern Satanists have found it relevant to distinguish themselves from what is termed contemporary devil-worship. By Devil-worship is meant the various informal activities which have appeared in the 1980s around teenage use of Satanic symbols, killings of serial killers professing to have been worshipping the Devil, and various reports of “Satanic” crime. Modern Satanists (i.e. the Church of Satan and Temple of Set) profess a pro-life philosophy and do not condone illegal action by people affiliated with those organizations.


There are 4 pages in the .pdf devoted to the Temple of Set.

On page 13:


OTHER NAMES BY WHICH KNOWN:

Within this religion its principles are termed “Setian”, and individual affiliates are termed
“Setians”. As the original god Set was later caricatured as the “Satan” of Judaeo-Christianity, Christians often interpret this religion as “Satanism” and its affiliates as “Satanists”. Setians accept such labels only to the extent that the Christian Satan represents certain qualities of individualism and independence. Setians reject any interpretation of Satanism that glorifies or promotes evil or destructiveness.


and


The Temple of Set was founded in 1975 by the international Priesthood of the Church of
Satan to supersede that institution (whose founder, Anton LaVey, had announced intentions to
commercialize it). . . .


On page 17:


NOTE:

The Temple of Set does not participate in, or accept representation by the Corps of
Chaplains in any branch of the armed forces of any nation. Inquiries may be addressed to the
Executive Director at the Temple’s office, and will be forwarded as appropriate.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
Umm -- James Moseley of Saucer Smear says Travis story doesn't add up . . .


Tell us what you know about James Moseley of "Saucer Smear."
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
Confirmation of Project Camelot promoting a sex offender liar as a supposed super soldier




This is a rather grandiose post on your part. Would you agree?

You've linked to a forum post.

What research have you done?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by pianopraze
Anyways, when both Travis and I were in the same seminar room it got really weird.. apparently he has the same problem, we had two laptops totally die, and the lights would not stay on they kept going off or flashing. I had to literally stand buy the lights and turn them on over and over and over... the whole room was in hysterics it was so funny... funny and disconcerting.


That is very interesting. I would be interested in any theories about what caused that.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by pianopraze
Anyways, when both Travis and I were in the same seminar room it got really weird.. apparently he has the same problem, we had two laptops totally die, and the lights would not stay on they kept going off or flashing. I had to literally stand buy the lights and turn them on over and over and over... the whole room was in hysterics it was so funny... funny and disconcerting.


That is very interesting. I would be interested in any theories about what caused that.



1. Total random event with no significance.
2. Travis puts off EM field or static electrical field.
3. Both of us do (and maybe some others in the room too).
4. Everyone in the room had a mass hallucination.
5. I'm a butterfly dreaming I'm a man...
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by pianopraze

As early as April 1978, the U.S. Army had circulated A Handbook for Chaplains "to facilitate the provision of religious activities." Both the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set were listed among the "other" religions to be tolerated inside the U.S. military.


I found a 17 page .pdf about this pamphlet housed on the "Our Library" page of the website alleeshadowtradition.com. The .pdf is dated February 6, 2002, is by Aquino, and is entitled "U.S. Army Chaplains Handbook - Temple of Set."

From page one:


Introduction to this File

- by Michael A. Aquino VI° [He's the 6th? And what's that superscript indicating?]


It is interesting to see what the handbook says about Satanism. On page 11:


SATANISM

Often confused with Neo-Paganism and Wicca, Satanism is the worship of Satan (also
known as Baphomet or Lucifer). Classical Satanism, often involving “black masses”, human
sacrifice, and other sacrilegious or illegal acts, is now rare. Modern Satanism is based on both
the knowledge of ritual magick and the “anti-establishment” mood of the 1960s. It is related to classical Satanism more in image than substance, and generally focuses on “rational selfinterest with ritualistic trappings”.



Like I mentioned before, It is more humanistic theology than anti-christian from what I understand. It really was these mystery schools in modern form... I spent some time tracing the linage of these mystery schools (like herding cats).

I think that means 6 degree or 6th degree. 6 being the number of man, again humanism.

Sounds like they would forward questions about temple of set on to Aquino at one point.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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I can respect your skepticism... i am very skeptical too.

I don't know that these people are true, i do know like I mentioned that I immediately resonated with them, and I do this with very few people in life...

I do think travis was telling the truth at the seminar, I was watching his body language for tells...and i could see the trauma in him as he was talking about this... I'm very familiar with what trauma does to someone. So I think he was being truthful. Now his real story is completely different from the fictional sensationalized versions you've seen in the movie etc... his real story is much more compelling and possibly was a MK event. He was taken to a human base with high technology, not grays.

I've seen how "debunkers" on ATS twist things, I suggest going to a primary source... talk to these people in person and hear their own story over "debunkers".

Chip did some cold reading, but not as much as I expected, and he seemed to get some real info... but he himself admits he's both psychic and medium.. i'm kinda skeptical about mediumship, because I've never experienced anything like that myself.. but some of the info he presented did seem specific and sometimes he would present info the person did not know and asked them to go check out... pretty risky for a cold reader. Overall I think chip is psychic and as I've maintained throughout I think this is an EM function that in time will be science not paranormal in the future as we come to understand reality better.

That last link doesn't refer to either Chip or Travis... and I've got to run don't have time to see who your referring too, I'll be back later tonight.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by pianopraze
it is an old and deep form of magic that really works. Quantum physics is exploring it now


I seriously doubt that "quantum physics" is exploring the musings of Mr.Crowley.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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Published in a journal from UK's equivalent of US ACS, RSC.

pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2010/pp/b9pp00125e

Fulltext hosted freely out of institutional paywall below - pdf

wildqi.com.au/resources/8B/13707/Other/Biophotons%20as%20neural%20communication%20signals.pdf


Paper

Biophotons as neural communication signals demonstrated by in situ biophoton autography

Yan Sun , Chao Wang and Jiapei Dai

Affiliation Information

1. Wuhan Institute for Neuroscience and Neuroengineering,South-Central University for Nationalities, Minyuan Road 708, , China

Photochem. Photobiol. Sci., 2010,9, 315-322

DOI: 10.1039/B9PP00125E
Received 07 Oct 2009, Accepted 08 Dec 2009
First published on the web 21 Jan 2010

Abstract

Cell to cell communication by biophotons has been demonstrated in plants, bacteria, animal neutrophil granulocytes and kidney cells. Whether such signal communication exists in neural cells is unclear. By developing a new biophoton detection method, called in situ biophoton autography (IBA), we have investigated biophotonic activities in rat spinal nerve roots in vitro. We found that different spectral light stimulation (infrared, red, yellow, blue, green and white) at one end of the spinal sensory or motor nerve roots resulted in a significant increase in the biophotonic activity at the other end. Such effects could be significantly inhibited by procaine (a regional anaesthetic for neural conduction block) or classic metabolic inhibitors, suggesting that light stimulation can generate biophotons that conduct along the neural fibers, probably as neural communication signals. The mechanism of biophotonic conduction along neural fibers may be mediated by protein–protein biophotonic interactions. This study may provide a better understanding of the fundamental mechanisms of neural communication, the functions of the nervous system, such as vision, learning and memory, as well as the mechanisms of human neurological diseases.



Conclusion and Funding


Conclusion

In the present study, we have demonstrated the development
of a new method called in situ biophoton autography (IBA),
which was successfully applied to various biological materials
to detect biophotons. To the best of our knowledge, this is the
first time biophotonic activities have been detected and analyzed
using a histochemical method. Further improvements to this new
method are also possible. In addition, our finding that biophotons
may serve as neural communication signals could contribute
substantially to understanding the biophotonic activities related
to neural functions.

Acknowledgements

This work was supported by the research foundation of South-
Central University for Nationalities, partly by an excellent project
of the Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security of
the People’s Republic of China for a return overseas Chinese
scholarship (2007), and the National Natural Science Foundation
of China (NSFC, no. 30570629).We also thank to Dr Y. Chen for
his comments on the manuscript and Liu Peng for her secretarial
help.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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I read the link. Read the comments by Edgar Fouche - he's the guy doing the research on this one. The real Navy Seal has filed a lawsuit that includes Project Camelot for being fake. Then Project Camelot responded about the lawsuit on their website -- I got that from another discussion of the same issue.

So I didn't provide the other links on this same issue but I'm assuming if anyone wants to just google search the info I provided then they'll get it easy.

As for claiming someone is a whistleblower -- again they should be able to at least prove they worked at what ever place they are "whistleblowing" about.

Of course if people want to believe something because it "resonates" with them as pianopraze says -- there's not much to discuss, as everyone can have their own opinion. haha.

Like Pianopraze is saying how Travis was traumatized as per his body language and this indicates Travis being honest -- but, in my opinion, Americans are often traumatized as this is a very stressful culture -- addicted to stress -- so most working class people have some level of PTSD just by being traumatized from their working conditions. Sad but true.

On Chip Coffey - personally the dude creeps me out but hey -- fake mediums are a dime a dozen these days and bad paranormal t.v. shows are even more common. Bad paranormal podcast shows are common as well but the whole David Wilcock spiel is tragic -- I find that dude to be a fake and I disagree with his views, etc.

I mean it's not even worth commenting on this stuff as that just feeds the fire -- popular culture from mass media is all just "dopamine addiction" -- soap operas, game shows, movies, sports -- it's all just "dopamine addiction" along with the trash U.S. diet focused on sugar, salt, nicotine, alcohol, caffeine -- all dopamine addictions.

So the secret is to get beyond dopamine into serotonin and then to increase the serotonin enough to open up the oxytocin of the heart -- people don't know what they are missing.

That is the real mind control -- it starts with Western music which is lacking the trance aspect of music that gives peoples the chills or tingles -- music when it goes deep into trance goes beyond the dopamine and switches over to serotonin via the vagus nerve internal relaxation and this then opens up the heart love energy.

It's very simple -- at some point people need to just focus on the solution instead of repeating the problem over and over again. But that's dopamine addiction for you -- people just want the sex/violence trip -- I can read the energy of the female interviewer of Project Camelot and she has a lower electromagnetic blockage -- I picked that up from listening to the Dietrich interview.

The Dietrich interview on C2C was way better because he wasn't interrupted as much and so he could finish his train of thought -- Douglas Dietrich is definitely brilliant although I still need more corroboration of his claims. For example we now know that Japan had uranium bombs and that Japan had subs that could hold the bombs -- but Dietrich claims Japan demonstrated to the U.S. that the sub had the nuke bomb on it. Or maybe it was just the chemical biological weapons on the subs that were the deterrent -- but no Dietrich says it was the nuclear deterrent. Anyway he seems to be filling in some gaps on his own and he doesn't have any documentation on his website that he actually did work at Presidio. I assume he has it in his books and DVDs - meaning a person has to make a leap of dollars so to speak -- has to buy the product based on good faith without any initial corroboration of him actually working at Presidio.

Also there was a thread on ATS about the main super soldier dude who is a karate teacher -- and he had an x-ray done of his claimed implant but the x-ray is inconclusive and the ATS thread dismissed the guy as a fake. That was the guy who was on the Jesse Ventura show. It's kind of like the wrestling phenomenon - everyone knows its fake but they just love a good "dopamine addiction" source.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
Then Project Camelot responded about the lawsuit on their website -- I got that from another discussion of the same issue.


Uh huh. Continue. Project Camelot's response?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
Confirmation of Project Camelot promoting a sex offender liar as a supposed super soldier


Super soldier?

Here is the description of the Project Camelot YouTube video of the Bill Wood/Brockbrader interview "Project Camelot: Bill Wood: Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass":


Uploaded by jagbodhi on Jan 17, 2012

An interview with an ex-Navy Seal

who during the years 1992-2000 was sent on top secret bombing missions in the Middle East, predominantly in Iraq. Years after the first Gulf War when we were supposedly not at war with Iraq yet he and Seal Team 9 were targeting Tomahawk Missiles on a monthly basis taking out targets that were increasingly "soft"... involving deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians. Find out how this highly trained young man and his team were coerced by the military into purposely destroying villages and creating future terrorists as part of a plan that would ultimately serve their dark purpose, the war on terror and 911.

And if that weren't enough, hear how he was trained in Area 51 as a specially gifted group of highly classified psi spies to see beyond the famous Looking Glass technology into the future involving 2012 and beyond.

Groundbreaking in every way.

Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot
projectcamelot.org...


~~~~~~~

03/23/2012 - LAWSUIT : DON SHIPLEY LEVELS LAWSUIT AGAINST BILL BROCKBRADER & WOLF RADIO (DAVE CORSO'S SITE)

Fulllotus,

Do you have Project Camelot mixed up with Wolf Radio?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by xecoybh
Published in a journal from UK's equivalent of US ACS, RSC.

pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2010/pp/b9pp00125e

Fulltext hosted freely out of institutional paywall below - pdf

wildqi.com.au/resources/8B/13707/Other/Biophotons%20as%20neural%20communication%20signals.pdf


IMHO the authors seem to contradict themselves. They argue that by using procaine they can affect transmission of the alleged biophotons. And their thesis is that it's photon-based, not electrochemistry-based mechanisms, that may be responsible for communication between neurons.

How then is procaine of any relevance? It acts strictly on chemical level, by blocking transmission of Na+ ions. Should not have anything to do with photons and such. In fact, the very action of anesthetics and other such drugs point in the direction of chemical nature of such interaction, and not some optical effects. Just a huge gap in logic right there.

Silver nitrate they used to try to detect biophotons is uniquely unsuited for the task, since its sensitivity to light is much less to the halides which were always used in analog photography. I know they use long exposure but still, what's the estimate of how many photons they expected to see. They tried to eliminate chemical effects in formation of the Ag granules but it looks like hand-waving to me (seeds were coated in "balsam"). And what about light contamination?

In conclusion they write with regards to their proposed mechanism of photon communication:

However, the argument might be raised that our proposal seems to contradict basic physical laws


Yup, at least they got this one right. Well done, guys.

Further:

However, one of the possibilities is that multiphoton excitation may emit a high energy photon if two low
energy photons are simultaneously absorbed so that their energy is pooled


Ans this, ladies and gentlemen, is highly specious. The paper they quote to try to bolster this hypothesis is about using lasers for sophisticated microscopy. This is highly important, since multi-photon phenomena depend on the energy density, and very strongly so (if I remember correctly, as a square). Now, with biophotons there is no energy density to speak about, that's precisely why they are so damn hard to detect. So it's astonishing that they didn't know this simple fact and quoted a source which is largely irrelevant to what they are trying to explain.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
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Of course if people want to believe something because it "resonates" with them as pianopraze says -- there's not much to discuss, as everyone can have their own opinion. haha.

Like Pianopraze is saying how Travis was traumatized as per his body language and this indicates Travis being honest -- but, in my opinion, Americans are often traumatized as this is a very stressful culture -- addicted to stress -- so most working class people have some level of PTSD just by being traumatized from their working conditions. Sad but true.

On Chip Coffey - personally the dude creeps me out but hey -- fake mediums are a dime a dozen these days and bad paranormal t.v. shows are even more common. Bad paranormal podcast shows are common as well but the whole David Wilcock spiel is tragic -- I find that dude to be a fake and I disagree with his views, etc.

Also there was a thread on ATS about the main super soldier dude who is a karate teacher -- and he had an x-ray done of his claimed implant but the x-ray is inconclusive and the ATS thread dismissed the guy as a fake. That was the guy who was on the Jesse Ventura show. It's kind of like the wrestling phenomenon - everyone knows its fake but they just love a good "dopamine addiction" source.


Yes, every person resonates at certain emotional levels i think, and we attract those who are resonating at the same emotional/mental wavelengths. I am INFJ... very introverted, and when I first meet someone, if I'm going to be a friends with them there seems to be an immediate synch/connection/resonance... whatever word you want to insert there from your vocabulary is fine... so yes, I synched immediately with Travis and Chip.
I respect that you think Chip is fake and understand why... I am skeptical of all who profess to be psychic or mediums (while at the same time I think we are all psychic) because most who profess to be so are scam artists and cold readers.

But I think you have to go on a case by case basis, and to judge someone you have never met is not good. I have met Chip and I think he is genuine psychic... yes he does some cold reading techniques, but its often hard to pinpoint where that leaves off and real psychic ability begins, and he even stated as much in person.

Travis is traumatized way beyond any normal levels, even for western society. You can take my word for it or just be skeptical whatever, but I am telling you what I experienced. His story is quite a bit different from what I had heard/seen on the TV/radio. There is a lot of dis-info flowing around because of hollywood forcing changes. His real story, which he's never changed, is compelling and I think he believes it. It is possible this was a US craft and he was taken to a US base and they used MK techniques on him. He reports humans in the craft, and going to a base he believes was on earth. This is not your typical grey alien abduction. Learn the facts, don't trust the debunkers... they have a huge agenda too. Just look at most of the debunkers here on ATS.

The "karate dude" is Duncan, and like I said some of his is dis-info from alters. I'm not sure I believe the bionic man part of his story, but I absolutely believe the MK and psychic parts... and there is a lot more to his story than you hear on those TV shows or even the radio shows. Those shows have agendas too and spin things a certain way.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Thank you for your contribution and welcome to the thread


I've not heard much about biophotons, light is Electro Magnetic energy, so I guess this is saying our cells communicate at an EM level then?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Some posts we have had mentioning biophotons (including one by xecoybh
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