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Many Of You Will Not Believe Some Of The Things Americans Are Doing Just To Survive

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:18 AM
People cannot wait around for the government.

They need to realize their own jobs could be gone too, and also, if earth changes are real, the whole thing could go, the grid and stores.

Task forces, councils, groups need to form to get as much aid, warmth, tents and help to the poor and families, and heat, time to create some generators, and even medicines, food, help for the kids, things for them to do.

And go farther. Make lists of the necessary businesses, and services, and also of surivival items, and things that may be needed, and try to match up homeless families and individuals with creating businesses, or start a non profit group that matches people with labor.

But if people start to replace the businesses and buy from one another they'll get a good grass roots economy going, and they need to collect seeds, grow some food too, donate garden space, think of yourselves as one big spread out eco village.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:21 AM
There is a LOT, A LOT to say about the complexities and how things are related, why a society as a whole gets worse and why people are getting poorer.

In fact, there are MANY reasons and i don't have the time to list them all right now...but here is just a small example which makes it clear what "globalization" means, even on a "small scale".

I am an entrepreneur and amongst other things i am also providing services, for example writing. Respective i USED TO do this a few years ago.

For example, i can offer other webmasters to write content for their sites, articles etc.

A reasonable price for someone living in the western world (US, Europe) would be charging like $15-$XX?? for such a job like writing a simple article, depending on the client's requirements.

Today, the big majority of webmasters and clients do not hire their fellow guys from the US or Europe (with very few exceptions) but they go on so called "freelancer" websites (there are TONS!) which are full up to the rim with people from India, Pakistan and the Philipines.

Those people are charging $2 for writing an article (instead of $20), some even less. There is no "market" anymore since i do not and will not compete with people offering a service 10x - 15x less than what i would need to survive. Since i don't live in Karachi or Swasiland

Many years ago, i was a software engineer. Today, people outsource their projects and let some Indian guy do the same work, for 1/10th of what they would pay a developer in the states.

Ironically, of course i would do (forced to) do the same...if i would need some kind of service done i would look on certain places like freelancer forums where TONS of people are fighting each other to do all kinds of jobs for RIDICULOUS low amounts.

You can get a complete website done and designed, from scratch...for $30 if you look around. And so on..

You see this has become totally nuts...

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:09 AM

Not exactly, you're just starting to wake up.

whispering was all a dream.
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:25 AM
reply to post by jaxnmarko

Hey guys

All valid points but without my six steps it will get much worse. I call it mega capitalism, that is what has happened in the USA. OK, lets look at this..... SOme companies that were born in America but no longer produce anything there.... APPLE, HP, CISCO, let think about that... I have named 3 companies who could if wages were equal, produce goods in the USA. USA is being sold out by the very companies who started there. FFS America get some back bone and follow my 6 rules this WILL get you out of trouble

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:30 AM
reply to post by flexy123

Verdana so it makes sense for the western nations start to demand that the people in those countries mentioned be payed the same as you ...Then let the economy of that country catch up to the wage increase. That way every person would be able to supply thier services on an equal footing. This would then take away the wage bios of each country...make total sense to me

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:46 AM
reply to post by flexy123

So, the Untied nations who all western coutries seem to pander to these day could simply demand that wages in all of these so called poor countries have the same wages as here in the western world. Think about the improvement in living standards.If these greedy companies had to pay the same wages in EVERY country they are in .... The once great USA would be great again and they would have jobs as all those companies would see the benifts of moving back .

What need to get through to the western world is .. Corporations dont give a damn about you. Lets play there game ...lets start a glo0bal movement to have equal pay around the world ... The occupy movement would then have a focus and a goal.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:48 AM
reply to post by muse7

way before that buddy.Like 30 years ago ...or more

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:26 AM
I found two families in the woods back in 2009 camping out on our land one evening. They had their truck parked down near the creek and had a small fire going. They were pretty scared when my husband approached them at first, as they thought they weren't on private property. We didn't have signs posted back then. They were homeless, and both families were moving place to place, banded together as a means to support each other.

The women were washing dishes and clothing in the creek, and giving the children baths. I stood and talked to them for some time, then came back with groceries for them. I told them they could stay for a few days. Got up the next day and all of them were gone. I've never been able to get them out of my mind.

One man had lost his business and home, while the other who built houses, hadn't had a contract to build over a period of a year and their finances went belly up.

Anything can happen to us at any time. Don't forget your fallen brothers and sisters, so that you too won't be forgotten.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:34 AM

Originally posted by jjkenobi
Why are these people eating rats? Why aren't they collecting food stamps and welfare and unemployment and section 8 housing free cell phone service mega tax credits (child tax credits, EIC) TANF Medicaid, too many to list.

List of US Government Funding programs

Because not ALL are QUALIFIED for it. This is a huge misconception. Not all poor people can get on welfare with the snap of a finger. If ALL could get section 8, then why do we have tent cities?

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Night Star
This is a very important topic and I thank you for bringing it to people's attention. This is one of many reasons I am against ilegal immigration. To see millions of our poor citizens go jobless while millions of illegals are employed and have all their needs met is insane!

Well, white people immigrated to this country without my ancestors permission and took without asking and killed many. A lot of whites live on our reservations now, putting up their own businesses and hiring only whites to work in them, not giving Natives a chance to be more self supportive. We didn't ask them to come to the reservation and do this, but they do it, and that is that. We don't ask the white people to leave our reservations, or to stop using our ER or other services that are meant for Natives. Sometimes, our resources are drained dry by people who want to play indian on the rez.

Kevin Costner and his brother bought out sacred land and turned it into casino plots, then hire the white locals to work in them. Yes, I do understand where you come from Night, but I don't hate whites and do not ask them to get off our lands.

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 06:00 AM
Why is it a shock?
America is a free market, if someone cannot sell himself to an employer, for example lost to an asian employee, then how do you think he is supposed to live? Government cannot support him, because it is socialism to support poor people. Is social Darwinism official in America, I am not aware? It looks like it is.
Free market of people, if nobody buys you - die. Fair enough(from the current capitalist paradigm point of view).

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 06:06 AM
BBC being late what... 200 years?

This kind of thing has always happened. If you look at it historically, the numbers are even low.

But yeah all this needs to be fixed... and it won't be till people face their own situation and do something about... and once the rule of law is reestablished...

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 06:09 AM
Dont worry soon millions of jobs from germany will arrive as manufacirers are realizing americans can do without vacation healthcare a fair pay or even dignity as long as you scream communism occasionally, unlike those pesky germans.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 06:37 AM
reply to post by AmericanPitBull

Your insight is wise beyond words! I too support american men and women not affording decent health care or food. Eating pissed on berries from shrubs? Well that's very garden of eden like and good for lil' johny's health. America must continue spending trillions in war of aggression and mass murder while obscenely profiting the rich. Politicians re-electing themselves through a fraudulent voting system is good too. After all, we have succulent grilled rat for us peasants! Go USA!

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 06:52 AM

50 million Americans that are living below the poverty line, and that number rises a little bit more every single day. America was once known as the greatest nation on earth, but now there is decay and economic despair almost everywhere you look.

The first minutes had me, to not view the whole thing, but I will soon, where's the promise that the rich would pay more taxes?, if they are smart then they go and unite to help the poverty in their country before all these people will rise and starting a civil war , if that happens things will really get gross..

really sad to see this...
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 07:04 AM
First the burger flippers were told they just need to get better jobs, then the engineers were told to not expect earning as much as their forefathers, now the medics are being told to lear to live with less. Seems the only ones making money are those playing the system with paper.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 07:07 AM
It really saddens me to see Americans suffering because their government chooses to spend trillions of dollars on war (and worse, based on false premises) instead of its people. I like you guys, if things get unbearable I suggest you come to Brazil, we're still hanging on down here even with the world's economy going down the sewer.... for now at least

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 07:31 AM
It will be okay,

In fact I think we will see a major rebound as people adjust because the problem isn't our government it is us.

I really hate to say that but sadly it is true.

Our priorities (and I include myself in that) basically suck

1: WE WANT JOBS, why the hell does anyone want a job? Jobs suck if there is job competition at all and the corporations can get away with paying us slave pay it's because there are people waiting in line for these #ty jobs, we used to be Entrepreneurial, we used to dream of getting rich, but now all everyone wants is to get paid enough to pay their mortgage and hit happy hour and watch tv, it's culture-less really and foolish as well to exchange some extra hrs for the ability to be off at 5:00 and be mindless, you need a few million dollars to retire, SS should be looked at like welfare is, a worst case scenario a 401 K is about as useful as a piile of poo particularly when with enough money and care if your 40 or under you might reach 120, you can use a 401 k to wipe your but, these are enticements? Live like a pig on a horrible schedule at some corp farm where you eat like crap and they offer "health insurance" because your diet lifestyle and aspects of how you work make you sick in the first place? it's insane really

2: SELF INDULGENCE, starting where 1 leaves off, what's on TV sucks, it's lethargic, it's mindless, we Eat terribly we have lost all our respective diets which our individual cultures developed over eons in some cases to help us live and THINK properly and be healthy and replaced it with pure garbage, we work under fluorescent lights breathe conditioned air eat processed foods, stimulate so much dopamine from so many sources including dope we can't focus

3: CHEMICAL IMBALANCE, 1 and 2 lead to 3 Nothing about the American "workers" lifestyle is good for you, just driving your car to work you eat enough carbon monoxide that the commute is likely the no 1 cause of heart attacks, we party our asses off, we obsess on sex and if we can't have these things we get pissed off, what happened to being ZEN?


We gave none, every morning I take something called TA 65, it increases the length of my Telomeres, most people would spend the same 200 bucks a month on New Rims or some crap for their car, 1,2, and 3 are happening because we value nothing, WE shop at walmart China can't do well if you don't buy 5 crap bikes in 5 years instead of holding out for one high class product, we buy whatever crap sold to us we feel guilty about crap out ancestors did like it's our fault, we absorb cultures that suck and lower ourselves, we have no real interest in our careers we have no self respect, everything is disposable, everything has a price, we don't think for the future, we are inventing some new hodge podge culture made of media # and throwing away our traditions even our music, what we put into our minds is retarded, no classical or jazz, just whatever is cool even if it rots our minds, we don't value education he who throws a ball or flashes a boob is respected and scientists are "nerds" we are so sexually overstimulated we can't be fulfilled because we took freedom of sexuality and turned into obsession with sex so no one can stay married

This is happening because we have no self esteem, live for the moment and most of all don't value education anymore


That's what got us this far

We Built this and if it's stagnant it's because we stopped creating and started taking

How sad it is that a Mexican fresh over the border will make Tamales and walk down the street 18 hrs a day selling them and Mowing lawns spend nothing and buy a house a few years later and when an American needs money they go live in the woods?

I grew up in NY and you can see it every day, an immigrant family will pack 11 people into an apartment and every one will work 2 jobs and pool their money over a couple of years to buy a store and employ the whole family but Americans move to suburbs buy a house that costs 10x what it is made of and when Uncle Joe looses his job even tho they have 3 extra rooms he isn't given a place to sleep, meanwhile, they can;t even afford the mortgage because they bought the piece of crap on a job that will last 3 years while owing 70 G in student loans because they rocked ass through college

I ask again WHO WANT"S JOBS? it's a step up from Slavery

Sorry but I have made the transition myself from a person like I describe to a guy who wants to compete not simply exist, this whole thing has put a fire in my belly and made me reevaluate my priorities and it's GOOD for ME, because I don't want to be a big fat slow dimwit doing nothing for x for my whole life it's slavery

I Must do it

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 07:37 AM
it's good to see that jobs are getting shipped out of the western world and mainly into Asia. Balances things up, after hundreds of years of oppression. After all these jobs should stay in Asia, because the main consumer market more and more shifts into Asia.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 07:37 AM
reply to post by Deny777

The sad part is

That we will send our kids off to die let them spend the Trillion dollars and no one gets up off their asses and fights

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