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Many Of You Will Not Believe Some Of The Things Americans Are Doing Just To Survive

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by kn0wh0w
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Why do many of these unfortunate people vote for a government administration that finance wars with such an astronomical price tagg that would instead contribute to cure their desperate state of existance?


because either side is the same and is pushing the same agenda.

not that hard really.

the government hasn't got the interest of the people at heart.

because corporate big bucks yell a lot louder then any of the children's hungry mouths combined.

that my friend is the current state of affairs.


It is a very sad situation for the country and its people. Everybody must come to the same conclusion that things should become better for everyone. The way you describe the current state of the USA will lead to nowhere.

Any acceptable ideas about what should happen to make things better?




posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Your idea of everyone who is jobless becoming an entrepreneur is great and all but last time I checked starting a business takes something called capital - you know money. Also does it really need to be pointed out to you how many start-up businesses fail in the first year? What about the first three years? What about all the established small businesses that are going out of business?

I have tried to start numerous businesses on a shoe string budget and failed - namely because I didn't have enough capital to get it off the ground - advertising being the most costly. Bottom line I finally got something going. But I had advantages many others don't - one being another source of income to rely on while I got things going.

Getting a small business going and becoming a successful entrepreneur is possibly one of the hardest things anyone can try to accomplish and is next to impossible if they have no money.

And while the message of hanging tough, thinking out side the box, never giving up, etc are valid and good points you can't ignore the circumstances people find themselves in. How are you going to start a business when you are spending all your time just trying to find a warm place to stay and put food in your belly.

I would bet if you were stripped of everything you had, all your possessions, degrees, personal contacts, money - everything - and tossed out on the street and told to survive - Then you might begin to possess some understanding of the problems some people face. When you have done that and rebuilt your life to some modicum of success come back and tell everyone the ways in which you did it.

And if this has already happened then tell us your story so others may benefit. Until then ... your advice is really useless ....


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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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believe me, there would be many more than that if alot of those in need didnt have family or friends to take them in or help them out. i myself at one point was homeless and sleeping in my car and my parents and family were within miles from me and i was too proud to ask or admit i needed help from fiends. lessons best learned the hard way i guess. it's the kids that my heart breaks the most for.
good luck to everyone in that position



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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The American dream died when AIPAC infiltrated our government. Oh we've got to worry bout irans nuclear energy program not Americans



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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Not suprising something on the BBC bashing the republican party. The UK loves Obama because he has the same socialist views as europe. It's funny how something on the BBC will take about America when that country itself is in a economic crisis..

You are a joke OP, Homelessness and poverty has been around in America since it was created, get over it...Just the fact that this is some british drama about America is a joke. Nothing but propaganda. I happen to be very well in my very early 30's making 6 figures a year with not a single college credit. All it took was some hard work and the will to do something with my life.
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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I wish I could give you 100 flags for posting this story.

I live in the Detroit area, and what they presented isn't even the half of it.

It was very hard to hold back the tears watching this documentary.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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The banks are #ing disgusting.

There are 167,000 + abandoned homes in Nevada alone. Meaning, the banks would prefer empty houses and people living on the streets or in tents than helping them. It's absurd.

#ING SICK.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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I think the problem is there are too many people on this planet, but the root of this particular issue is Americans thinking they are either more important than the rest of the world or impervious to troubles.

This is how a lot of the rest of the world lives every single day. I don't see too many people giving a # about a brown or yellow skinned person eating rats for dinner.

Frankly I am too worried about keeping a shelter over my family and keeping their bellies full to worry about someone elses family. Call me selfish if you want, I call it being responsible for mine.

If some other father/husband is letting their family starve, me giving them a meal or a few dollars is only gonna delay that problem, because he is going to fail them again tomorrow when they are hungry again.

Life sucks, if I had a choice I wouldn't have come to this party.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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i can't say for surew but probably they were denied these services. my neigbors daughter was collecting food stamps for herself and her child and got a check for 200 dollaes a month from social services she took a job at little ceasars pzza a week after she went through training we had a hurricane come through our area an she did not recieve the call for her to come in to cover someone elses shift so they fired her. because she got fired social services cut off her check and stopped her food stamps. she now makes money between temp jobs selling scrap metal. the goverment isnt there to help the poor unless its election time.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Not worth it.
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by sputniksteve
I think the problem is there are too many people on this planet, but the root of this particular issue is Americans thinking they are either more important than the rest of the world or impervious to troubles.

This is how a lot of the rest of the world lives every single day. I don't see too many people giving a # about a brown or yellow skinned person eating rats for dinner.

Frankly I am too worried about keeping a shelter over my family and keeping their bellies full to worry about someone elses family. Call me selfish if you want, I call it being responsible for mine.

If some other father/husband is letting their family starve, me giving them a meal or a few dollars is only gonna delay that problem, because he is going to fail them again tomorrow when they are hungry again.

Life sucks, if I had a choice I wouldn't have come to this party.



I personally think your response is cold and callous.

The fact that the USA didn't have these problems, but now it's starting to reach epidemic proportions it not because there is to many people, but the fact that most people don't give a crap. I am not talking about handouts or social programs, what I am talking about is giving people opportunities to contribute to society and make a fair wage to live.

I hope you never end up on the other end, because it can happen in a very short time due to health, job, and spiraling other issues.

Peace,

RT



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Realtruth

Originally posted by sputniksteve
I think the problem is there are too many people on this planet, but the root of this particular issue is Americans thinking they are either more important than the rest of the world or impervious to troubles.

This is how a lot of the rest of the world lives every single day. I don't see too many people giving a # about a brown or yellow skinned person eating rats for dinner.

Frankly I am too worried about keeping a shelter over my family and keeping their bellies full to worry about someone elses family. Call me selfish if you want, I call it being responsible for mine.

If some other father/husband is letting their family starve, me giving them a meal or a few dollars is only gonna delay that problem, because he is going to fail them again tomorrow when they are hungry again.

Life sucks, if I had a choice I wouldn't have come to this party.



I personally think your response is cold and callous.

The fact that the USA didn't have these problems, but now it's starting to reach epidemic proportions it not because there is to many people, but the fact that most people don't give a crap. I am not talking about handouts or social programs, what I am talking about is giving people opportunities to contribute to society and make a fair wage to live.

I hope you never end up on the other end, because it can happen in a very short time due to health, job, and spiraling other issues.

Peace,

RT


Thats fine, maybe I am callous and cold for worrying about my own family before I worry about someone elses. But at least my family has a shelter and food. If other people worried about their family as much as I do mine they wouldn't have the problems they do now.

This doesn't mean I turn around when people ask me for a few bucks. I hand out more than most people. But I would rather be callous and cold and have a healthy family than all warm and fuzzy and have them starving.

And out of curiosity what do YOU do? Do you offer your home to homeless people? Do you set up food drives and go out and try and feed people? Obviously you do more than I do so what is that exactly that makes you less callous and cold than I am?
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Its hard for me to feel sorry for people when we pay so much in taxes so the government can subsidize these people.

Everyone comes into this world with the same potential in life. Being born "rich" or "poor" does not mean you will remain so. My family hails from a long line of nobility, yet I was born into poverty and had to literally fight for everything I ever obtained in life.

I never accepted any handouts, I worked my butt off.

What people fail to realize is that in this country, even the so called "impoverished" are still living better than others in places like Africa, Asia, India, South America etcetera...

If you happen to be living under the poverty line and you're reading this I have some advice for you:

1. Get off the computer and go get a job.

2. If you're able to afford a computer, and internet access, or have the time to go to the library and use theirs, clearly you do not have your priorities in order.

3. I paid into this welfare system for decades. If you for some reason cannot make yourself worth hiring, you may be eligible for welfare, food stamps, and government section 8 housing.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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Hey i live in miami fl ive been with out a job for about a year , and let me tell you it not easy. i had to move back in with one of my parents. i appy to jobs daily and by apply i mean 10 to 20 a day and nothing . one of my friends that had been unemployed for 2 years just got a job he tried to get me a job there and they wouldnt take me. i have more experiance ive kept my jobs longer and they wont take me because of my credit wich i think is pure bullcrap i have ran into the same thing a bunch of times at alot of other jobs i just dont get it. i just hit tier 3
of my unemployment and im starting to get a litlte nerve racked . some friends of mine moved up north to other states and have told me there more jobs up there but how can i move up there with out any money some im kinda stuck its really upsetting



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by chiefsmom
I don't think it is all due to lack of compassion.
There have been too many reports on the news lately about people using this bad time to POSE as homeless, and just rake in the dough for themselves. That is certainly not helping the cause at all.

But, most towns, even as small as ours, have reputable donation centers. That's where the help should be going if you can afford to do anything at all.
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Does that work? Hmmm.....



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by sputniksteve
I think the problem is there are too many people on this planet, but the root of this particular issue is Americans thinking they are either more important than the rest of the world or impervious to troubles.

This is how a lot of the rest of the world lives every single day. I don't see too many people giving a # about a brown or yellow skinned person eating rats for dinner.

Frankly I am too worried about keeping a shelter over my family and keeping their bellies full to worry about someone elses family. Call me selfish if you want, I call it being responsible for mine.

If some other father/husband is letting their family starve, me giving them a meal or a few dollars is only gonna delay that problem, because he is going to fail them again tomorrow when they are hungry again.

Life sucks, if I had a choice I wouldn't have come to this party.


you are not alone - others seem to share your sentiment ....


"At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge,'' said the gentleman, taking up a pen, "it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.''

"Are there no prisons?'' asked Scrooge.

"Plenty of prisons,'' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

"And the Union workhouses?'' demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?''

"They are. Still,'' returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not.''

"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?'' said Scrooge.

"Both very busy, sir.''

"Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,'' said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it.''

"Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,'' returned the gentleman, "a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?''

"Nothing!'' Scrooge replied.

"You wish to be anonymous?''

"I wish to be left alone,'' said Scrooge. "Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.''

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die.''

"If they would rather die,'' said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that.''

"But you might know it,'' observed the gentleman.

"It's not my business,'' Scrooge returned. "It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!''



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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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So 25% of American households live in the poverty range for income. Now how many of those households are either the young or retired that though do not make much, but then do not need to spend much either, so are not really living a poverty lifestyle?

Add in how many of the rest care little to getting out of that lifestyle?

I'm sure we would see a much smaller percentage of the 25% of families (past 25 years old with kids) in need with also the desire to do better. There is always the "hard cases" and Churches/Government can help quite a bit, but ya I would love to see our focus on them more to get them back on their feet, but the reality is there are more living on the street because that is what they want to do, then are there due to hard times with no other choices.

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by sputniksteve
Thats fine, maybe I am callous and cold for worrying about my own family before I worry about someone elses. But at least my family has a shelter and food. If other people worried about their family as much as I do mine they wouldn't have the problems they do now.

This doesn't mean I turn around when people ask me for a few bucks. I hand out more than most people. But I would rather be callous and cold and have a healthy family than all warm and fuzzy and have them starving.

And out of curiosity what do YOU do? Do you offer your home to homeless people? Do you set up food drives and go out and try and feed people? Obviously you do more than I do so what is that exactly that makes you less callous and cold than I am?
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thats why we # eachother over, to help our own interests. when really if we helped eachother we would get more done.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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Yeah obviously the job market has nothing to do with it. Neither does the loss of manufacturing jobs. Neither does the increase in the cost of living while wages remain flat ...

Isn't it obvious the only thing that has happened in the last 4 years is people have gotten lazier ...




posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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I would just like to add I'm from the Detroit area. I have friends that are pretty close to eating rats thierselves. My buddy thats 20 is supporting his mother with cancer and his younger brother on $8000 a year. He's pretty smart and graduated at the top of his class. He can't get a higher education he's to busy making ends meat. His mother has cancer and no insurance. They haven't had gas in over a year. They have no heat or hot water. Thankfully for him it was a mild winter. Do you know what it's like to take a shower in 38* water? Your borderline hypothermic by the time you get out.

My aunt lost her job 6 years ago she's 57. She couldn't find work after years of searching. She was diagnosed with cancer a year ago. The cancer she has was highly treatable but she couldn't get the medical treatment she needed so it's basically gonna cost her her life.

The only free people in this country are the ones that can afford to live here. And if you can't then it must be your own fault. That's the BS republicans want you to believe. To them I say UP YOURS!

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