reply to post by shell310
From observing my mom when she had her break, the mind generated problems are not too hard to pick out. For one, she wasn't rational. And when she
started accusing ME of being a demon, that was when I knew for sure her mind went off the rails. But the paranormal components were definitely present
because my dad and I, as rational third party witnesses, got our first exposure to shadow beings at that time. We had never seen that sort of thing
around the house before, and it was the first time my dad ever admitted to believing in the paranormal. He always had, I think, but he kept it to
There is also something else to consider, and this relates back to the post a few pages back that I think we all failed ti acknowledge about these
things possibly being generated by ourselves through our own uncontrolled energies..that geist stuff. I would be amiss if I failed to note that my
mom's breakdown and the accompanying manifestations coincided with her starting menopause.
Amd my own worst ever breakout of shadow people, sounds, cold spots, etc, etc happened to me within a month of my giving birth ti my daughter. I'd
have to be willfully ignorant to deny that messed up female hormones don't play some kind of role in a lot of these things.
Now when the poo hit the fan last year, nobody was hormonal as far as I know, but our family did endure a sad loss and my daughter was going through
But that does not discount the participation of a generational entity in all of our misery. I just think the thing to take away from our experience is
if you already have a genetic predisposition to paranormal sensitivity, if your emotions or your hormones go out of whack, there are things in this
universe that are going to take advantage of that and manifest. And there are your own energies that might go out of control and manifest. And then
there are well documented scientifically studied mental illness symptoms that will also manifest and the result will be one hot mess that is difficult
to sort out if you focus on just one aspect of the suffering. So we all have to be aware we exist simultaneously as spiritual beings and as physical
beings and have to look out for and nurture both aspects. You can't fix anything if you refuse to acknowledge the possibility there is a brain or
body chemistry issue that needs examining and correcting or ruling out. You can't fix anything if you refuse to acknowledge a spiritual attack, if
the mental health explanation doesn't seem to cover all the bases.
And you can't fix anything if you fail to be aware of your own energies and pray or meditate or vacation and settle yourself and "sort yourself
out" as my UK friend's would say.
If you have visitors hearing the noises, too, that to me says a mental health explanation isn't going to cover all the bases. Somebody in your
family may well need a vacation, but you would know if anyone was no longer rational. I know there are people reading this thread who think we are
bonkers and discussing utter bunk. But to me I think we are perfectly reasonable. We are observing things that don't quite have a logical rational
explanation behind them. We can't provide that proof over the Internet but we can probably sway people who kmow us personally. Even my grand sceptic
of a husband couldn't explain away the icy cold air around me. Great, an entity who opens me up for frigid wife jokes! Just my luck!
Remember, you don't have a thing to prove to anybody over the Internet. I think you have identified the basics of your problem to yourself to your
satisfaction and to the people who also have experience in these matters at least enough to empathize.
I am just sorry that while I empathize I can't advise. I do find the Christian belief system I have very helpful but I would never push that on
anyone. And it's not a cure all. I don't think my faith is meant for that. I believe this happened to our family for a valid reason for God's
glory ultimately, even though I resent the whole thing with a heated passion. But Jesus Christ himself had to deal with Satan whispering and bothering
him, too, so I'm not without an example to follow.
While I will pray for this entity I will follow Christ's example and show it no tolerance, no compassion and no mercy that it could exploit against
me. I am praying only that if it is within God's will that such can occur, my request that this being find a reconnection with its lost divine
nature and seek its own redemption will be heard and considered if that is something God would permit and allow. Only God knows what he thinks ought
to be done with these things and if he thinks it safe for the rest of his creation to give them a chance at redemption.
I can as a flawed human understand its hatred, jealousy and resentment of humanity and of God's authority.