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I deny that Genesis 1 has the word, universe, in it.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
That's a modern interpretation,
made by people in the habit of
changing other people's ideas
to fit their own paradigm.
It does not have what would be the
equivalent of, universe, in Hebrew, either.
1) heaven, heavens, sky
a) visible heavens, sky
1) as abode of the stars
2) as the visible universe, the sky, atmosphere, etc
b) Heaven (as the abode of God)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jmdewey60
I deny that Genesis 1 has the word, universe, in it.
Ahhh yes, so because Genesis 1 doesn't include the English term "universe" in it, we can pretend that's not the implication of the chapter? God created space, time, the planets, the stars, and all that there is in 6 days.
In Genesis 1:1 the Hebrew word used for "heaven" is shamayim.
which is what I was talking about, notice the word in the definition, visible, that would mean things like the sun and the moon and the stars, which they thought could have been torches for all they knew, floating around, a ways above the earth, inside this shell which held in the atmosphere.
2) as the visible universe, the sky, atmosphere, etc
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jmdewey60
JM, who else can create a universe besides God?
Originally posted by Noncompatible
reply to post by curious7
You realise there will be those that state. The mechanism is not the "spark" God created the "spark".
There will be others that simply call it a trick of Satan to turn your face from the lord.
Facts are rarely allowed to get in the way of belief/faith.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jmdewey60
JM, who else can create a universe besides God?
So, even as late as this, people thought the sun and moon were lights high in the sky and contained in a watery substance that came from the earth's ocean.
Further, he mentions the firmament and points out that it, too, was called heaven, since it makes all sight possible, having all the lights of heaven put into it by God. Also the air is called heaven. It is transparent, colourless and invisible by itself and is therefore able to convey light and colours down to the earth.*