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Originally posted by SaturnFX
They have no delivery system...therefore they can only end up nuking their neighbors.
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
They do have millions of potential delivery systems all over the globe for other potential 'weapons'
Originally posted by WellMaybe2007
yeah im gonna have to disagree on a few things- namely, that Iran is building a bomb. Do we have pictures? pictures or it didn't happen?
we have our intelligence saying what exactly? that they're building a bomb.
I grant you, it's possible and likely that they are- but who is giving us this information? hmmm.. the same folks who said Iraq had WMDs...
revenue and repression for the top tier.
National Intelligence Estimates (NIEs) are United States federal government documents that are the authoritative assessment of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) on intelligence related to a particular national security issue. NIEs are produced by the National Intelligence Council and express the coordinated judgments of the United States Intelligence Community, the group of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies. NIEs are classified documents prepared for policymakers.
Because they have a history of lying??!!
When was the last time Israel said that Iran needed to be "blotted out" of the Jewish world? They haven't. However, Ahmadinejad has said just that about Israel. They consider Israel to be in the heart of the Muslim world and there won't be any peace until they're removed.
Except Muslims aren't taught just to pray about it. They're taught to "prepare the way" for it. If you have any questions about that, look up the conference on "Mahdism Doctrine" that takes place every year and see what they teach at this conference.
It's not just America. You've got Iran supporting terrorists in Iraq right now to remove the current Sunni members of government. They want a Shia government in Iraq.
Unfortunately, there's too much international crime to bring them all to court. It doesn't mean that they haven't been proven to be a gangster.
Originally posted by buster2010
[/He never said Israel should be blotted out that has been debunked many times. Mecca is the heart of the Muslim world and that's in Saudi Arabia. Although the dome of rock is in Jerusalem but I don't understand how you think Israel is the heart of the Muslim world.
Ahmadinejad stressed "Our dear Imam [Khomeini] ordered that the occupying regime in Jerusalem be wiped off the face of the earth. This was a very wise statement. The issue of Palestine is not one which we could compromise on... I warn the heads of all nations of the Islamic world to beware of this trap. If some, who are under pressure by the dominating powers, follow a misguided policy or are naive, or selfish or have earthly desires, recognize this regime (Israel), they should know that they would be burnt in the fire of the Islamic Ummah (Nation) and will bear an eternal stigma on their foreheads." He further expressed his firm belief that the new wave of confrontations generated in Palestine and the growing turmoil in the Islamic world would in no time wipe Israel away.
On 26 October 2005 Islamic Revolutionary Guards spokesman Seyyed Massoud Jazayeri said "If this cancer (Israel) is not removed from the Islamic world, Muslims will sustain immense harm... This wound was opened more than half a century ago and has still not been healed, because in the Islamic world, some leaders and regimes, which have not been democratically elected by their own people, continue to rule, with the help of Western imperialism. A world without Zionism, and the obliteration of Israel from the face of the earth, is not only the objective of Iran, but of the whole Muslim world."
Christians and Jews are also preparing for the end of days. So again why is Islam forbidden to teach about the end of days? Is it because they talk about war with Israel?
And what does this tell us? We never should have stuck our noses in Iraq in the first place. Regan was right ME politics is just way to complicated.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by seagull
Please understand this, my friends... I don't want an armed conflict with Iran. But our options are shrinking daily..
I've never seen friend plan to kill each other unless there is hypocrisy behind it.
Perhaps this kind of thinking is normal for a self-designated “reformed hawk”, who sees no irony in calling a preemptive war a necessity.
It is astonishing. Those warmongers are lied into one war after the other. Usually those lies are exposed, before the war has even started. When they later find out, what the truth really is, they become angry. They walk around infuriated and proclaim: “No one could have known this beforehand!”, and “How could they lie to us!”
Nonetheless they obediently fall for the next scam. They don't investigate phony allegations. Instead they prefer to trust their gut-feeling and their leaders. To convince themselves, they even make up their own facts. Like: "Iran is increasingly seeking to acquire WMDs."