reply to post by batgirl
Sorry if I seemed rude or dismissive. Your concerns are very real and I certainly would not put it past some corrupted member of the elite to try and
gain more power if the wrong
kind of one world government was in place. But I guess my point (which I’ll admit I have just explicitly said)
is that these types of individuals gain their power through spreading fear throughout the masses.
Originally posted by batgirl
Here is only one example among many where organizations in high places are promoting the belief system of the Global Mind Conciousness (One Mind)
Planetary Citizens and Findhorn
In 1973, UN Secretary-General U Thant and New Age activist Donald Keys founded Planetary Citizens. This organization is now a UN-recognized
non-governmental organization, "devoted to preparing people for the coming of the new culture."
A Findhorn meeting. Source: Findhorn.org. In 1973, Findhorn member Donald Keys and UN Secretary General... read more.
Donald Keys has been actively involved with the Findhorn Community in Scotland and writes regularly for its magazine One Earth. Findhorn promotes New
Age teaching as “a spiritual community, ecovillage and an international centre for holistic education, helping to unfold a new human consciousness
and create a positive and sustainable future.”ii
Planetary Citizens and the Findhorn Foundation are just two of the organizations connected to the United Nations that teach blatant New Age, Earth
worship, and Luciferian doctrine.
Keys wrote this in One Earth:
The New Age groups are focusing and entering a new stage—a world related stage. They are becoming mature enough to begin to shoulder some of the
load of humanity's burden.iii
David Spangler, co-director and spokesperson for the Findhorn Foundation explains the organization’s Luciferian views:
The true light of Lucifer cannot be seen through sorrow, through darkness, through rejection. The true light of this great being can only be
recognized when one’s own eyes can see with the light of the Christ, the light of the inner sun. Lucifer works within each of us to bring us to
wholeness, and as we move into a New Age, which is the age of man’s wholeness...
Lucifer prepares man in all ways for the experience of Christhood and the Christ prepares man for the experience of God...the light that reveals to us
the path to the Christ comes from Lucifer. He is the light giver. He is aptly named the Morning Star because it is his light that heralds for man the
dawn of a greater consciousness...He stands no longer as the tester or the tempter but as the great initiator, the one who hands the soul over to the
Christ and from the Christ on into ever greater realms (emphasis added).iv
David Spangler also gives a clearly satanic understanding of Scripture:
We can take all the scriptures and all the teachings and all the tablets and all the laws, and all the marshmallows and have a jolly good bonfire and
marshmallow roast, because that is all they are worth.
Thanks for bringing this article to my attention, I find it quite interesting. While it pleases me that a UN Secretary General would even consider
meeting with someone considered ‘New Age’, and the fact that they are aware that we must bring about a new culture upon this Earth (for as I’ve
said throughout this post soon I don’t think we’ll have a choice), I would be very wary of someone whose truths seem to stem from any mythological
entity, whether I agree with the message or not. I am aware of a growing number that don’t see Lucifer as the bad guy, but this is beside the point.
All these truths I speak of should originate within us
Whether Lucifer exists or doesn’t, whether he’s good or bad is irrelevant, for we are quite capable of working this s#%t out ourselves. Invoking
the name of an entity such as him, let alone making public policy out of it will only serve to further polarize us against each other which is
completely counter to what our goals should be.
I have respect for where you are coming from but please try not to reduce my thoughts to being fear-based and part of the problem. I seek truth
first and foremost, wherever that truth leads is where I go whether I like where it leads me or not.
Completely agree. Truth and transparency should be our main priorities, for then people will be able to judge for themselves. This is why I have so
many issues with the governments and media in their current state themselves. Anything short of that is open to being abused and manipulated by those
with an agenda to fulfil.
How do you know that there is not one single solitary evil person on this earth and that evil 'in reality' does not exist.
I still stand by these words, for I believe all negative actions stem from ignorance, misunderstanding, reactions to a perceived threat, and negative
personality traits which themselves stem from a mixture of one’s initial genetic personality and then shaped through experience.
I do however believe that there are many who have strayed to a point that they are incapable of being rehabilitated and therefore need to be dealt
with in a way that they are no longer a threat to others.
I certainly to not believe in a blind faith in everybody’s higher reasoning. I do believe we all have it, but I also believe there do exist many who
are incapable of reaching it. In the more utopian world I envisage though I think children will have a much better chance of being raised so that they
are less likely to develop such dysfunctional problems, and I believe in a more utopian world there will be far less situations present which will
exacerbate any negative personality traits to the point where they cause the individual to act in a negative way toward others.
On a certain level I understand why you believe that and I assume you will not see it in any other way. Your 'enlightenment' has convinced you
of this and the reasons why you believe this are so complex that it would have to take a thread all on it's own to be able to go into it.
I am not by any means even close to enlightenment. I have many flaws (on many different levels
) but I have seen the damage a fear based society can
do which is why I seek something different. Maybe I just have a little more faith that the greater good in humanity will eventually win through....
That being said. I have met 'evil' people and a very small number who have proclaimed themselves to be evil and do not have a problem with it.
They are in psychological terms called psychopaths. They are also, in powerful circles, largely running the planet. They are not living in ignorance
or misunderstanding of themselves or the truth of their core being. They are what they are.
Evil is very subjective and who draws the line of what is and isn’t evil. Psychopaths have an untreatable mental disorder in which they are unable
to empathise with their fellow humans. This in turn allows them to commit atrocious deeds a conscious holding them back. Most actually so lead
relatively ‘normal’ lives - a guy I went to school with’s wife was a clinically diagnosed psychopath. Obviously if they do behave negatively to
a point it harms others they have to be dealt with like anyone else. As for those people who you describe as evil, they’re the one I mean whose
personalities are flawed beyond reprieve.
As for the powerful circles, I have seen no proof it exists beyond those that are very clearly seen e.g. governments etc. but I don’t deny it’s a
possibility. But if they do exist and their actions are motivated from any source other than peace love or prosperity for all then I would say they
are ignorant of their core being (but these are just my beliefs). But fear and its propagation through the masses would surely be the chief tool in
their arsenal to achieve whatever twisted agenda they might have.
What is going on on this precious planet earth on a spiritual level is very complex and discernment is never a bad thing. Discernment in these
times is extremely important. Peace.
Again I completely agree.
Look, I’m not some navel gazing indigo child type who believes that we can solve everyproblem simply send out ‘good vibes’. People have to wake
up and realise what a ride the government and media is taking them for. But they also need to be aware that the Earth’s gonna reach a point sooner
or later when our entire sociological, political and economic culture is going to have to change otherwise we will descend into that which we most
fear e.g apocalypse. We have to decide what kind of world we want to live in and start acting accordingly. And those actions start from how we treat
each other to how to who we vote for and what we’re willing to make a stand for.
Hopefully you see where I’m coming from now. Peace
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