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Originally posted by Oxygenation
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Hi 1LittleWolf and thanks for your response.
You say evil does not exist and is a concept of the mind. If that were the case we could wave away everything else in the same way, after all everything is conceptualized in the mind even suffering, misunderstanding and pain.
The physical world around is is Maya... it is an illusion as is the by product of everything manifest from the physical world.
Evil is Maya as is Love and all else that permeates from our physical realities. We attach ourselves to their identity based on the emotions we feel. That being said, talking from a physical reality context, evil is very real..
Evil can be defined as the premeditated intention to cause or inflict destruction in any form.
That which is thought out and then acted upon meticulously and without conscience or regard for life is evil.
When NATO sends a bomber over a peaceful village in the middle east and commands it to drop a bomb which kills hundreds of innocent adults and children in order to gain a military advantage is evil.
There are also other factions in this reality that are evil such as those who bow down and worship the likes of Lucifer and Satan. Those who have no regard for the love of one another but "do as thou wilt" or do as they wish.. without conscience.
There are many forms of evil in this world and to disregard them or say they are simply states of the mind is in a sense a form of denial.
If you have an argument against this i would very much like to hear it.
People have to wake up and realise what a ride the government and media is taking them for. But they also need to be aware that the Earth’s gonna reach a point sooner or later when our entire sociological, political and economic culture is going to have to change otherwise we will descend into that which we most fear e.g apocalypse. We have to decide what kind of world we want to live in and start acting accordingly. And those actions start from how we treat each other to how to who we vote for and what we’re willing to make a stand for.
Originally posted by batgirl
It is all well and good to conceptualize and intellectualize the concept of evil. I would agree that psychopaths have an untreatable mental disorder, this has been shown by studies and brain scans that have shown a marked difference in the frontal lobes of their brains and physiological differences as well. And yet, I would add that there is a spiritual component to it as well. It is somthting that you can detect through your spiritual and bodily senses. It can raise the hair on your head, it is an aura of darkness, it can change the features of a face when the mask is removed. Evil is subjective until you are on the other end of it. Then, believe me, you and the perpetrator are not one on any level of the spectrum whatsover. You are dealing with a completely separate entity there. And it does not respond to light or love or reason or sanity. At it's core it is fearless. Yes, it does feed off the fear of others and on a large scale it seeks to separate, to compartmentalize itself.
This is why all those who consiously participate in the compartmentalization of evil are in their part feeding into this destructive energy, even though they may not be themselves, entirely 'bad' people. When you have large atrocities you have many thousands of people making these individual decisions. The bureaucrats, the administrators, the lobbyists, those who make the decisions, the ones who drop the bombs, the people who make the bombs, the medics who leave people to die, the ones who turn away. It is compartmentalized for a reason, so no one has to take responsibility for their own part in it. This is how evil grows and expands, through separation, in the physical sense, in the intellectual sense and through the spiritual senses.
There is black and white where evil is concerned. Evil itself would love the concept that there is no black or white in it, that is precisely how it justifies itself, that is one reason why people participate in it, it is how people alleviate their conscience. You say that on the highest level we are all one, take it further and it would be that true holiness and evil are one (I say this even though I know you believe that evil does not exist) but true holiness and all that it inhabits, that being, peace and love and empathy and wholeness can never be one with evil separation and darkness and destruction. It is simply not possible. There are opposing sides, it is the nature of the beast.
Originally posted by BoB420
In my opinion it's the same old "it's them vs. us" mentality that has been installed in people's heads through indoctrination camps err i meant public schools as well as most media . There always has to be a "bad guy", a scapegoat so to speak . Xenophobic behaviour or "an unreasonable fear of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange" , is it a "flight or fight" situation ?
The christian worldview teaches us that there is a god representing good and a devil representing evil .
"Satan" or "Lucifer" is depicted as a being resembling a humanoid with a goat head .
From a "religious zealot" point of view , the countless victims of wars fought in the name of a "god" can be justified , because the other religion is the "bad" one . The crusades for example .
Some christians think that islam represents evil .
Some muslims think that christianity represents evil .
But why some people cannot see past the label of an institutionalized religion and actually kill each other because of different belief systems is truly beyond my comprehension .
In other religions or beliefs , deities with a human/animal appearance are fairly common .
Egyptian mythology for example features many different deities with a human body but an animal head .
So does Hinduism . Even in greek mythology we can find "hybrids", which many would stigmatize as "satanic", yet it was in greece that thinkers and philosophers came up with the concept as well as the term "democracy" , the form of government which supposedly safeguards the power of the people .
According to the ancient "aliens" theory , earth has possibly been visited by extreterrestrial/extradimensional entities in the past .
"Gaijin" , a japanese word for stranger or foreigner sounds similar to "kaijin" which translates to "roughly humanoid monster " . A related term is "kaiju" which means "strange beast" or "monster" . After the end of WWII , the movie dinosaur monster godzilla (gojira in japanese) was conceived as a metaphor for nuclear weapons . "Gorira" means gorilla and "kojira" means whale . Why does a "gorillawhale" look like a dinosaur ?
Reptilian/saurian space dinosaurs with laser cannons ?
The new "commies" or an actual threat ?