Originally posted by Oxygenation
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Hi 1LittleWolf and thanks for your response.
You say evil does not exist and is a concept of the mind. If that were the case we could wave away everything else in the same way, after all everything is conceptualized in the mind even suffering, misunderstanding and pain.
Hypothetically yes. But like anything on the material plane it is easier said than done. Most of our negative thought patterns are deeply entrenched within the neural pathways of our brains, and many are beyond the point where they will ever get past this (at least in this lifetime) and are therefore beyond reprieve and will obviously have to be dealt with so they no longer pose a threat to humanity.
Having said that though there are ways we can all start to make the world a little better and work toward a more utopian society. The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.
The physical world around is is Maya... it is an illusion as is the by product of everything manifest from the physical world.
Evil is Maya as is Love and all else that permeates from our physical realities. We attach ourselves to their identity based on the emotions we feel. That being said, talking from a physical reality context, evil is very real..
Evil can be defined as the premeditated intention to cause or inflict destruction in any form.
That which is thought out and then acted upon meticulously and without conscience or regard for life is evil.
When NATO sends a bomber over a peaceful village in the middle east and commands it to drop a bomb which kills hundreds of innocent adults and children in order to gain a military advantage is evil.
There are also other factions in this reality that are evil such as those who bow down and worship the likes of Lucifer and Satan. Those who have no regard for the love of one another but "do as thou wilt" or do as they wish.. without conscience.
There are many forms of evil in this world and to disregard them or say they are simply states of the mind is in a sense a form of denial.
If you have an argument against this i would very much like to hear it.
I tend to think of Love as something slightly different. Love to me is an attraction which connects all things, and is an energetic reminder that ultimately we are all one. It binds us all, and will eventually be the path in which the Source guides all his children home. To me that means that love is a little beyond the illusion.
But fear is something else entirely. It is a total product of the illusion. For if we all realized the Truth, then we would realize that ultimately there is nothing to fear. Fear is total illusion, just like the things which cause it.
But fear and love are the two processes which 'create' the reality which we see around us. The first is aligned with the ultimate Truth, the 2nd is completely the opposite.
This is of course only my opinion though.....
Evil itself is a very subjective term. Who draws the line as to what exactly is 'evil'. A terrorist bomber may seem to be the evilest man on Earth to many, but in his mind he may be doing exactly what he think God wants, and therefore the highest good. Is he evil because his thinking has been warped ever since he was a small child?
In your example with NATO, who there is the evil one? The pilot who drops the bomb knowing full well many innocents will be killed? The guy who commands him knowing that even though many innocents will be lost, the seemingly chance that a person who may well kill thousands more will also be killed is worth the risk. In their mind they will also be taking the higher path.
People think pedophiles to be the evilest people out there, yet they kill no one and quite often do not even injure their victims. Many have been victims themselves and this the only avenue in which they can 'get off', many think that it is just a very minor act, and many victims are not nearly as traumatized as one would expect Though the victim may well be scarred for life in a mental sense, does this make the pedophile more evil than a murderer or violent rapist? Is a schoolyard bully who picks on the weak to the point he/she kill himself more evil than a pedophile because this act has caused the kid to kill themselves, even though they thought they were 'just having a bit of fun'.
In your definition - Evil can be defined as the premeditated intention to cause or inflict destruction in any form - where on the scale of a kid stomping on another's sandcastle to TPTB pressing the big red button to wipe out Iran does evil start?
Evil cannot be defined. There is no black and white with evil. People's thoughts and actions, be they negative or positive, are simply a product of their genetically programmed personality shaped through their life experience and activated by the circumstance they find themselves in. There is no evil, but because we perceive it we take action against it out of fear, actions which may well only increase the level of fear, seemingly increase the amount of perceived evil, further the suffering in the world and create even more divisions.
Now look, we are not going to solve all the worlds problems by sending out 'good vibes' and throwing flowers at oncoming death squads. Whether evil exists or not there are many people who's thought patterns are beyond reprieve and we must ensure that they have as little power as possible to further their destructive agendas, be they pedophiles, rapists, politicians or corporate bankers. Like I said to batgirl above:
People have to wake up and realise what a ride the government and media is taking them for. But they also need to be aware that the Earth’s gonna reach a point sooner or later when our entire sociological, political and economic culture is going to have to change otherwise we will descend into that which we most fear e.g apocalypse. We have to decide what kind of world we want to live in and start acting accordingly. And those actions start from how we treat each other to how to who we vote for and what we’re willing to make a stand for.
Fear and evil are illusions. We need to be able to step back from our petty problems, realize this and make a stand to ensure the world we pass on to our children has a chance. We have reached the point where our actions have the potential to effect everyone else on the Earth. In the words of one of the greats....
It is time we all just grew up and start fighting for what really matters....
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