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Where's your source? I call BS. Doesn't change the fact that the Catholics were even bigger charlatans than the Wiccans. And much of modern medicine
is based on the knowledge that came from ancient medicinal practices.
The lack of people before the year 1800....
The time when modern medicine was invented.
The time when the population of the world first hit a billion.
The time when mystic BS was dropped at long last, and only a group of fanatical Wicca still smoked wild mushrooms for "health"?
No. Most medicine comes from scientific discoveries made in the last 200 years.
And ancient medical practitioners were not witches and warlocks. They were respected individuals with knowledge of chemistry and the body. That's why
in ancient times, the doctor had an office, and the witch was a tree huger in the forest and bog, having dinner with the bloated corpse of a family
member who died some years ago and the bog to which they dumped him into puked him back up. Primitive beliefs, primitive understandings, and outright
If we go back even further to the time before civilization, even then the medical people were not magicians and mystic fools. They were botanists.
They studied the plants and animals and how they reacted to certain illnesses. Not a witch. A scientist.
When Rome was going to found a new city, they would build an altar and sacrifice a local animal, usually a pig. But this seemingly religious event was
barely that. They took the pig and looked at his organs. looked for cancer and disease, so they knew if it was safe to settle.
Your lesser educated Wicca friends took this trait and made it mystic rather than scientific. I see no reason to think of the pagan folks of today, or
for that matter the last few centuries, as anything by charlatans with cheep magic tricks for show.
And yea, sure the church has been charlatans. All people, nations, and organizations have been at some point. That business with indulgences was a
joke, and Luther taught them straight.
The Europeans didn't get the tech from the east, they developed the tech, as the source I provided pointed out.
Your source says it came from the east, as many other sources as well.
Heresy was a crime because the Catholics for the most part were a bunch of religious control freak nutcases. Who, by the way, completely ignored the
teachings of JC.
Only some times. Once again, nobody on Earth has been perfect.
Bingo, glad you finally got it, which also makes all your claims about instability a bunch of nonsense to prop up beliefs in the Catholic Church and
False. for you have not shown how it was subjective nor how it was wrong.
By the way, it was Mexico that attacked the U.S., they thought they could beat us in a war, having a larger more experienced army due to constant
battles to defeat numerous revolutions. Mexico lost a war of aggression, and Mexico never had a legitimate claim to CA. I am not going to bother to
refute your other false claims.
We let our people settle on their land and did nothing to stop it. We were the illegal immigrants. We took over.
Yeah, that would be like trying to perform surgery with a butcher knife. History has shown that the military dictator never retires. It has only
happened twice in all known history.
Actually quite a number of times. The two I mentioned, and Washington, whom by all means had the choice to continue his presidency and make it a
dictatorship. I'm sure if I looked it up there would be other examples too. It has happened in history. Hell, I'd even call Putin a close runner up to
it if he eventually retires. The man has absolute authority, and yet follows the rules of his country in terms of offices.
History shows that humanity does what it feels is best. That's all it shows.
Ron Paul has been saying a lot of intelligent things lately, but he still believes in the Free Market, which is communism IMO. It is unrealistic
idealism that allows people to get by with doing very bad things to others.
And yet, he'd persecute polluters because it falls under interstate commerce and matters and thus the federal government has a role.
Ron Paul would be an internal dictator. A role carried out in many ways by previous American presidents.
Lincoln, FDR, Washington. All men with absolute power whom used it wisely.
If that makes me sound like I support dictators so be it. But let it be known I support what works. When the republic has died, dictators are needed
to resurrect it.
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