The problem with America, is that it is full of Americans.

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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Things just aren't bad enough for most people yet. A lot of people have adjusted to new economy, and are getting by for the most part. They wish for better economic times, but they stay in their little bubble of awareness and just trudge through life not caring to understand what is going on. Until things get much worse for a larger percentage of the population, there will be no motivation to organize and seek changes.




posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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Nothing like a stereotype... I say if you are in the USA get out!



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by nyk537
The problem with America is that many people have been conditioned to rely on government for their needs and have forgotten how to earn things themselves. We have raised an entire generation of whiny brats who hold their hands out to big government for everything.

The problem with America is big government bureaucracy.


I don't believe you, re your assertion that too many people 'rely' on the government for their needs. "Whiny brats", really?

The vast majority of Americans have slaved away for most of their lives only to see it stolen away by TPTB and squandered. If the American people expect a government agency to do its job, that's probably because an outrageous fortune has been spent on that agency, among many agencies. So yes, the government should be expected to do what they've been paid to do, at the very least. But, they do NOTHING for the people, except harm them.

It is not the fault of the people to expect their government to do what they're supposed to do. So sure, big government bureaucracy is a bane, but not entirely the fault of the People. They've all been lied to for a long, long time, after all.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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You have obviously not read far into the thread.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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And what do they expect their government to do?

Pay their bills? Buy their groceries? Send them to school? Pay for their healthcare?

All things the government has no business doing.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Nope. They expect the FCC to actually enforce the law against commercials being too loud, they expect Social Security to go un-raided by politicians, etc., etc., etc. There is an awful lot of money thrown at numerous government agencies, all of it taken by force from hardworking taxpayers. You tell me ONE agency that does its proper job. The IRS doesn't count, even though they're probably corrupt, too.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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I'm not talking about government agencies doing their jobs...that's the exact point I made for crying out loud? That's why I said that the problem is government bureaucracy.

I was talking about the expectations of a majority of Americans now who expect the federal government to take care of them. I'm talking about an entire generation of Americans being raised on a cradle to grave mentality.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Count Chocula

Originally posted by watchitburn


It is just mind bottling that they continue to vote for Romney, Gingrich or Santorum. What do they hope to accomplish?



It's the baby boomer generation...

And whats worse is they are the generation of entitlement, they firmly believe its up to us to support them and their million dollar doctor bills all the while the current generation faces a steadily declining standard of living.



And tell us, O wise one, how many "baby boomers" did you see at the occupy movements? Ya know, those filthy thieving whiners who want everything handed to them. Their sense of entitlement far eclipses ANY generation's.

You're so full of crap you use diapers to blow your nose.



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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Chargeit
If your not a tax payer I don't care what you think about us. Worry about your own country pls.


Originally posted by Chargeit
I only read enough to know that your not American therefor I don't care. bye.


Originally posted by Chargeit
I don't care as a American what non-american's think. sorry. I'm not being a A hole. Your insulting me and my country.

You do realize that we live in a globalized world with a globalized economy and thus are all sitting in the same boat here?

You've forgotten how the so called "global financial crisis" started in 2007 and where, haven't you?

It does matter for us (aka the rest of the world) what you guys do and who you vote for.

Also, there are some nations out there who do a better job than the USA right now... so maybe you can put your pride aside for once and learn one or two things to improve your great country.

I admire the "old" United States of America and happened to like all US Citizens I met in real life up until this day... but you're not alone on this planet. Maybe show a little more respect.

Just saying...



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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You've forgotten how the so called "global financial crisis" started in 2007 and where, haven't you?

I haven't forgotten and seems I, not you, will be payin for that bailout. As for the EU bailout yep I will be payin for that one too...



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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That basically is why they are protesting. They want the government to take money from rich CEO's and give it to them for nothing. They want their student loan debt forgiven even though they promised via contract to pay it back. They want free healthcare for life, and the list goes on and on.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
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I haven't forgotten and seems I, not you, will be payin for that bailout. As for the EU bailout yep I will be payin for that one too...

And what makes you think that I don't have to pay for the consequences of the financial crisis? Germans pay a lot for it... ~€ 22 billion annually solely for the #ing EFSF.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by angeldoll
I think what we really need is a new forum for "Hating the United States of America". That way, those of us who aren't completely blinded with hatred for something they don't understand, can delete it from our lists.


I'm with you 100% on that idea. Haters need to find another arena for their ignorant ramblings. Every time I read one reply that somebody has made that is thoughful and has a good point, ten more haters come out and just disrespect the people of America. We have our problems lile other countries, but were working on trying to change what we don't like. Why don't you just start a "Death to America" thread and you can all have yourselves a grand old time! The rest of us engaging in a proper discussion on problems and solutions can opt out of your thread without having to waste our time seeing what the point of your thread is.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by ColCurious
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Originally posted by rebellender
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I haven't forgotten and seems I, not you, will be payin for that bailout. As for the EU bailout yep I will be payin for that one too...

And what makes you think that I don't have to pay for the consequences of the financial crisis? Germans pay a lot for it... ~€ 22 billion annually solely for the #ing EFSF.


you bailing out the USA,,,how much is USA giving Germany for saving its ass from Hitler ...still
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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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I meant we pay a lot for the consequences the crisis had over here... curbing the effects and stabilising the global economy, which then of course benefits all of us, including you.
Don't pretend as if the USA is paying alone for the meltdown.

And me and my family will always be grateful to the USA for liberating us from the NS regime... thats what I meant with:

I admire the "old" United States of America...



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by ColCurious
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I admire the "old" United States of America...


I dont get the OLD in the quote but hey I dont get everything that goes around ...take care



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by watchitburn
From what I have observed, it seams that Americans do not want to help themselves. Or maybe it's the opposite, and that is all that they want, is to help themselves. Obviously this country is not heading in the right direction. This is evidenced by the continuing downward spiral of the economy. But does that deter Americans? Hell no, they are going to keep on electing big Govt., corporate puppets, and religious zealots.

It is just mind bottling that they continue to vote for Romney, Gingrich or Santorum. What do they hope to accomplish?

Apparently they are not interested in seeing things get better.

"Hey, lets vote for the same scumbags that have been running stuff and hope for a different outcome."

From this point on, I am done with the US. It will get what it deserves.
edit on 22-1-2012 by watchitburn because: (no reason given)


If you don't live here in the US, I suspect a lot of people could give a crap what you want to be done with... If you do live here in the US, I'm sure that more than one of us would help you pack and get you to the train on time.

Frankly... At the risk of being classified as one who loves his country, even if it isn't all that great right now, why don't you simply step back and continue being that legend in your own mind that you are apparently working so hard at being.

If anyone with the power feels like this should be deleted for being Pro-American, please go ahead. You have the power.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by watchitburn
From what I have observed, it seams that Americans do not want to help themselves. Or maybe it's the opposite, and that is all that they want, is to help themselves. Obviously this country is not heading in the right direction. This is evidenced by the continuing downward spiral of the economy. But does that deter Americans? Hell no, they are going to keep on electing big Govt., corporate puppets, and religious zealots.

It is just mind bottling that they continue to vote for Romney, Gingrich or Santorum. What do they hope to accomplish?
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The problem is that you are painting ALL Americans with a big brush. ALL Americans have not voted for the three stooges, just some have. By my calculations the election is not over yet, so hold on to your own "P's and Q's, the rest of the Americans will make up our own minds.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by watchitburn
From what I have observed, it seams that Americans do not want to help themselves. Or maybe it's the opposite, and that is all that they want, is to help themselves. Obviously this country is not heading in the right direction. This is evidenced by the continuing downward spiral of the economy. But does that deter Americans? Hell no, they are going to keep on electing big Govt., corporate puppets, and religious zealots.

It is just mind bottling that they continue to vote for Romney, Gingrich or Santorum. What do they hope to accomplish?

Apparently they are not interested in seeing things get better.

"Hey, lets vote for the same scumbags that have been running stuff and hope for a different outcome."

From this point on, I am done with the US. It will get what it deserves.
edit on 22-1-2012 by watchitburn because: (no reason given)


The problem is with you. You have painted ALL Americans with one big brush! Not everyone has voted for the three stooges, just some have. By my calculations the election is not over yet so mind your own "P's and "Q's.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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But that's not 100% true. And I would even argue that Obama is a rebellion against that system.

Oh sure, he's bought and sold by Goldman Sachs, but in the world of corporate feudalism, you have to make your choices. Has Goldman Sachs desired war? Not that I can tell. All those oil companies and the lot you mentioned have.


In order to understand the world of today, you must look at the world yesterday.

Read Machiavelli's "The Prince", and replace the word "prince" with "ceo". Suddenly, the world becomes clearer.



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