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But that's not 100% true. And I would even argue that Obama is a rebellion against that system.
Originally posted by nyk537
reply to post by imalitehaus
I'm not talking about government agencies doing their jobs...that's the exact point I made for crying out loud? That's why I said that the problem is government bureaucracy.
I was talking about the expectations of a majority of Americans now who expect the federal government to take care of them. I'm talking about an entire generation of Americans being raised on a cradle to grave mentality.
Matter of fact, mind showing me just why the Bilderbergs are bad? As far as I can tell, they are rich people with honest reputations.
Then how is it that only democratic nations reach first world status?
S Korea is the newest member. How did they do it? By forming strong unions and kicking crooked politicians out of office, and putting strong regulations over business activities to protect the rights of the average individual against institutional abuses.
By the way, Germany's success mainly comes from its excellent work force, and strong unionization.
People who aspire to the wealthy class tend to be shallow people with little imagination. They are not the ones who produce the technology, and anyone who has a knowledge of the advancement of technology knows this. The wealthy for the most part are just clever politicians with major inferiority complexes. Why else would they pursue wealth?
Sorry to tell you.
Wealth is not democratic.
China, Nazi Germany, Japan
I know its not and people want change. If you keep doing things the same as you have always done then things will always turn out the same. Really we need to learn to do things different unless we want to repeat.
Despite dubious claims about tech prowess of the past, and the current state of China's economy, China's conservative structured status quo system has continuously held them back as a civilization, and will continue to do so until they develop a culture of independence and democracy.
NAZI Germany developed nothing but an unsustainable war machine. Germany was doing fine with the Wiemar Republic when Hitler grabbed power.
Most of Japan's success came from improving upon Western developed tech. That includes adopting Western Democracy.
When Rome became an empire, it began its decline. Romes glory days were when Rome was a Republic.
Democratic style governments create long term stable development, as well as far greater productivity and innovation. People who have freedom and opportunity, and realize gain from their labor are willing to work far harder than slaves will ever work. History has demonstrated this over and over again.
Your history of JP Morgan is sadly lacking, and Tesla as well. Tesla's prime contribution was financed by Westinghouse, not Morgan. JP was busy screwing Edison out of his light bulb patent. A chapter of history that clearly demonstrate how corrupt JP and his kind were. I suspect that you have no idea how many propaganda lies you were taught.
Originally posted by watchitburn
This last page has been the most interesting of the entire thread. I encourage you to start a new thread for this topic so everyone else on ATS can get in on this discussion.
Originally posted by Chargeit
reply to post by Kryties
Well I personally take that as a major slap in the face. If your not a tax payer I don't care what you think about us. Worry about your own country pls.