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Huge News! Obama Must Prove Eligibility in Court Now as Motion to Dismiss is DENIED.

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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It's interesting that in the WND article, they're trying to say Obama's birth certificate is fake, but his father's birthplace (on the same certificate) PROVES his father was born in Kenya!
They're using the document they claim is fake to prove their case!

OMG! These people are desperate!



“Now what we’ve learned from the Hawaii birth certificate is that Mr. Obama’s father was not a citizen of the United States.


WND




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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edit on 4-1-2012 by cuervo because: Decided I don't want to participate in this conversation.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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I am curious to see this through, as there has never been a president in U.S. history, that has spent so much money protecting his identity. Yes, I see the same pro-patriots defending this entity called Obama, but this might just get interesting

Thanks op



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Since there were 7 US Presidents with Irish blood that preceded Arthur, that theory is, at best, a weak one. Maybe there was some merit to the accusations. Of course, that doesn't fit your view that this is all about race, prejudice, hate, etc..



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Do you know why I will defend Obama until I am blue in the face? He is the lesser of two evils in my opinion. If you put ANY.... let me repeat this ... ANY of the republican candidates that are currently running for president scares me to death... much more so than anything Obama has accomplished in his first term.

Sad but just being honest... if we had McCain in office right now (and obviously this is just my opinion), we would have ground troops in Libya (McCain is on record supporting a more defined "war" against Gaddafi), we would still be in Iraq fighting a battle we should not be in in the first place, we would not be considering withdrawal from Afghanistan and the military industrial complex would be the only aspect of our economy which would not be in shambles.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Finally some good news to read about...made my day...! Small victory/battle in the war...: )



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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I had to show my BC to get into the Marine's, back ground checks where done on me to get secret clearance, and I FULLY believe the POTUS should be held to a much higher standard of scrutiny.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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What would happen if it was proved to be a faked document? Impeachment? Jail? This would be incredibly embarrassing for our country, I hope for the sake of our country its not a faked document, but all signs are pointing to it being just that...So would Biden be sworn in as President?? Would Biden be the next Presidential candidate for the next election, or would it be someone like Hilary?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by cuervo

Originally posted by primus2012

Originally posted by cuervo

Originally posted by defythetyrants

ah, Obama's Iron Curtain as it were... the "I'm black so, you are a racist hillbilly if you disagree with me"

if the governator made a run for office i would dismiss him as well. cuz he is Austrian of course.

*sigh*


But Obama isn't an Austrian. He isn't anything but an American. A black American. To you, that's the same as being a known immigrant. How is that not racist?


Yeah but his father was a foreigner, and he was raised in Jakarta. If he was the son of an American couple, this would be a non-topic.


I'm tired of listing all of our past presidents who had foreign parents so you can just look at my previous posts on this thread. It was a non-topic for all of those presidents.



Those past Presidents' parents you listed were immigrants to the US. A child born of naturalized citizens on US soil is a natural born citizen. And furthermore, those past Presidents weren't born and/or raised in other countries.
So no past President was born of a foreign parent and raised outside of the US.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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No. In fact your all wrong. The different typewriters are very easy to identify. 4 different typewriters produced different documents to make the .gov version.

Let me stop here. I dont think the man wasnt born where he said and its probably all in order. There is something on the original that doesnt match up. Otherwise why create a fake document? But the fact is the documents are fake, and we have lots of people with the original machines still available for type samples.

Here is one. Also one of the sites i follow for average pricing. if he paid $20 then im looking at $10 if I buy one.

www.mrmartinweb.com...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Here is another source:



ATLANTA – On Jan. 3, 2012, Georgia Administrative Law Judge Michael M. Malihi, who consolidated several cases challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be placed on the primary ballot in Georgia, issued an order denying Obama’s motion to dismiss those challenges.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Obama eligibility challenges to move forward in Georgia - Phoenix Crime | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...
www.examiner.com...

and this is interesting.....



Georgia Election Code states: “Every candidate for federal and state office … shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”

Despite the clear language of the code, Obama claimed, in his motion to dismiss, the law doesn’t apply to presidential primaries.

Irion called that argument “absurd” and stated, “If the state of Georgia intended presidential primaries to not be considered elections it would not codify the administration of such primaries within Title 21 of Georgia’s codes, entitled ‘Election Code.’”

Irion argued the code does not include an exception for presidential candidates because the legislature didn’t intend to make such an exception.

Pointing to the absurdity of Obama’s argument, Irion said in order for it to make sense, the presidential primary would need to be administered without candidates.

“However,” he wrote, “Georgia Election Code specifically requires the political parties to ‘submit to the secretary of state a list of the names of the candidates of such party to appear on the presidential preference primary ballot’ … the list of names submitted by the parties to the secretary of state are ‘candidates’ in the presidential primary.”

Irion noted the relevant portion of statute states, “The secretary of state … may challenge the qualifications of any candidate prior to the presidential primary.”

He said, “Since no one has been elected to the office of President of the United States for the term of office beginning in January 2013, today is still ‘any time prior to the election of such candidate.’”

Irion called Obama’s conclusion that the issue raised by Welden was “soundly rejected by 69,459,897 Americans in the 2008 elections” “offensive to the Constitution” and said, “This statement reflects a complete lack of understanding regarding constitutional protections.”



Continue reading on Examiner.com Obama eligibility challenges to move forward in Georgia - Phoenix Crime | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...




And Obama is a Constitution expert?



edit on 1/4/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)

edit on 1/4/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: added something



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Let's assume the following:

1. Barack Obama is not his real name

2. Barack Obama was born on the mainland of the USA

3. Barack Obama's biological mother is not Ann Durnham

4. Barack Obama's biological parents are both American born


Barack Obama's birth certificate can't be found in Hawaii because none exist there

Barack Obama's birth certificate can't be found in Kenya because he was'nt born there either

Barack Obama has taken the identity of a the son of Ann Durnham because none of her family are alive


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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Probably the one he showed to Nancy Pelosi to qualify. ...

Supposedly the State Election Commissions never saw verification and never signed off (as required) ...

Obama File

The proper legal text used on the DNC Party "Official Certification of Nomination" document reads as follows;

"THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution."

The document is signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Colorado Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson. It is dated August 28, 2008.

However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of Obama and Biden.

Instead, a very similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, that those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these "certified" candidates on the ballot.


IF (and I stress the word - IF) he really did show Nancy Pelosi a piece of paper I'm sure as all heck not going to trust that dim-wit to actually check to verify authenticity (if she even did see a document). And I'm sure she wouldn't 'out' a fellow far left democrat who is on fire to be elected POTUS.

The Hawaiian Democratic Party refused to sign off .... so Nancy Pelosi signed FOR Hawaii??
It's all so freak'n strange ....



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by primus2012
A child born of naturalized citizens on US soil is a natural born citizen. And furthermore, those past Presidents weren't born and/or raised in other countries.
So no past President was born of a foreign parent and raised outside of the US.


All that is required for natural citizen is to be born on US soil.

Your parents have nothing to do with it.

Being born on foreign soil of an American parent is a bit different.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Let's assume the following:

1. Barack Obama is not his real name

2. Barack Obama was born on the mainland of the USA

3. Barack Obama's biological mother is not Ann Durnham

4. Barack Obama's biological parents are both American born


Barack Obama's birth certificate can't be found in Hawaii because none exist there

Barack Obama's birth certificate can't be found in Kenya because he was'nt born there either

Barack Obama has taken the identity of a the son of Ann Durnham because none of her family are alive



What?

Are birthers now going to require DNA testing?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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What if Barack Obama was born in the USA, had an outstanding Police warrent for his arrest, took on the identity of another......forged a birth certificate.

Under those circumstances , Barack Obama still can not run for office.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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until i read this on a news site or hear it in the news (because if it's true fox will be ALL over it) i'm not going to believe it. i did a search and can't find anything that doesn't get info from Taitz.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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in one word, this is...... RIDICULOUS!!!

honestly...cmon....honestly

now your going to have the president, AFTER serving, having to prove his 'eligbilty"...all from some BS, grey area, skunk works rumours.....you`l have the best thing that happen to america, squirming in court over the most, basic and fundemental requirement to serve.

all in time for the elections....today i heard a republican calling him a socialist....as thats meant to be a bad thing for a democraticly elected president....sheesh


think out the box for a second...is punching holes in obamas credibitly really worth destroying the fabric of democracy in the eyes of the masses....i mean how pathetic is this for :

1)the presidential enrolment of candidates
2)and for the image of judges/courts/prosecution that this BS has made it this far

obama should just stay totally silent...after all he did give everyone healthcare and find.kill the apparant perpatraters of 9/11

anyway im thanfful for him clearing up the image of the US...and for dealing with the backlash of the bush administations foriegn affairs ..
the economy is on the up i heard as well


anyway...uneeded...republicans and their "covenant" judges should concenrate on finding a better rep.

peace



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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One more thing when your looking at the typewriter museum.

Govt contracts were usually the same for those long after WWII and the primary providers for govt equipment are the same people that manufactured the M1 carbine, and parts for them.

Underwood, Remington, IBM are the ones to collect samples from.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
Being born on foreign soil of an American parent is a bit different.


Our daughter is adopted from Bolivia. Her birth certificate is from Bolivia and has us listed as her parents. There is nothing on the birth certificate (or citizenship certificate) stating she was adopted. When we finished the adoption process (with the feds in Atlanta) we (jokingly) asked them if she would be eligible to be POTUS. They said YES ... because as far as they were concerned she was an American born overseas to American parents.

Anyone who saw her birth certificate and citizenship papers would think that I gave birth while we were visiting a foreign country. And that simply isn't the case. It's very misleading.

(of course the official could have made a mistake when she told us this POTUS information but as far as we know, it's accurate )



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