It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
I can tell from what he's saying that these "Mayan elders" are the likes of Hunbatz Men and Don Alejandro. Both of these men have taken the writings of 2012 "researchers" and then repackaged them as ancient Mayan wisdom. Many of the claims made in what you posted are demonstrably wrong and come from the likes of John Major Jenkins and Jose Arguelles. It's true that the K'iche Maya (and only the K'iche) talked about multiple incarnations of Earth in the Popol Vuh there is no indication that this represents traditional Mayan beliefs. There is no mention of such a thing anywhere during the Classic period (the Popol Vuh comes from the post-Columbian period) and it has been found that the Popol Vuh along with the books of the Chilam Balam were written with significant influence from Christian beliefs.
Originally posted by biggmoneyme
the mayans don't exist as a people anymore
Originally posted by biggmoneyme
the mayans don't exist as a people anymore
Originally posted by cornucopia
why not get your information directly from the source?
Originally posted by cornucopia
The first five-year stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992 was the beginning of the destruction of the material world. We have progressed TEN years deeper into the transition phase by now....
Originally posted by cornucopia
....that element is 'ETHER'.
Originally posted by miniatus
Originally posted by biggmoneyme
the mayans don't exist as a people anymore
That is the key thing for me .. the Mayans were wiped out long ago, they have descendants in a way but the understanding of the Mayan people was lost with their culture.. these elders aren't much of an authority if you really ask me. ( Don't even get me started on the crystal skulls, which have NO historical ties with the Mayan people )
Another thing people lose sight of with all this Mayan fear mongering is that this calendar has cycled 15 times already and the world has hummed on each and every time.. it's a cyclical calendar.. when it ends, it just starts at the beginning again.. as it has done 15 times since it's inception.
Originally posted by rabzdguy
K so nothing will happen in 2012? Then what? back to taxes, wars, pillage, rape, abuse, racism, religion?
Look back at human history..Ages change..just like your own...
If Ages never changed..we would all be in your caves..fighting wooly mammoths for food...
Things change.. dont deny it..
WORLD IS RIPE FOR A MIRCALE
Originally posted by starchild10
Does it not depend which 'Mayan elder' you are listening to? I have seen a recent TV interview where they totally debunk everything. The tourism authorities are however planning to make as many bucks as possible during the countdown.
Originally posted by Drezden
So basically after that date living things on earth will be able to interact and use the new element of "ether" in the same way we use and interact with water, air..etc.. ?
Originally posted by angellicview
"If you established any spiritual foundations in the previous year, now is the time to build on those foundations. Consider yourself as having been issued a Creative License by the Universe. While the world changes under your very feet, you can begin embodying your Angelic Self and learn to wing it." ~Inelia Benz
Thank you for posting this very important information. It seems as though we have two groups of people. The ones who adamantly oppose these ideas are standing on one side of the ethereal room and the ones who believe in these theories on the other. The "cosmic force" is not going to drag you kicking and screaming into the world of Love and light, you can go if you want to. For those standing in the middle wondering which way to go, I hope you will come with us - the more the merrier.
In addition to those thoughts, science is now beginning to understand under the quirky laws of quantum physics that up to an infinite number of alternate universes exist. You may exist simultaneously in (many) more than one universe. So, if anyone did ascend to a higher level of consciousness on any given date (whether that was Oct 28, 2011 or Dec 21, 2012) no one would necessarily be aware of it. So no one can say for certain whether anyone did ascend or will ascend. So go ahead and make your choice - no one but you will know about it.edit on 2-1-2012 by angellicview because: (no reason given)