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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
The govt IS to blame for being complicit in and allowing the Goldman Sachs crowd a room at the Inn wherein they have taken the public to the cleaners. Govt allowed the baillouts.
Goldman & Co. IS the government, there isn't a difference anymore. Look at the CVs of those politicians, like Geitner they're all Goldmanians in disguise
Yeh, I saw that list of GS people in govt. A very sad picture indeed. And very telling too.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by dadgad
The govt IS to blame for being complicit in and allowing the Goldman Sachs crowd a room at the Inn wherein they have taken the public to the cleaners. Govt allowed the baillouts. Govt supported it. Govt is a very bad parent right now and the answer is partially to get rid of the Nanny State and let the bad companies go bankrupt. In fact that is how the free market is supposed to work, but govt gets in there and interferes with what it thinks is the solution because they serve the bankers and the bankers serve them too. If it were not for politicians who let Goldman Sachs wag the tail, the public would not have been used as it has. If we had good people in office, Goldman Sachs would never have been given this chance, nor would Fannie/Freddie have been allowed its abuses. Barney Frank was Congressional Oversight and he did NOT do his job, he was in fact on the take. Greed in govt is at least half of the problem.
It was collusion in the govt which allowed the Federal Reserve Act to be passed in the first place which gave the banking cabal a room at the Inn and to steal all the money from the public over the last century. Who was President then? Woodrow Wilson.
Read G Edward Griffin's book, "The Creature From Jekyll Island" to find out how bankers and their cronies in govt ruined this country with the Federal Reserve.
I'll help you with a YouTube of one of his lectures. I will post part 1 and you could go on YouTube and find the rest
Here is a radio show nutshell version
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Some isp providers will allow you to roam with a laptop and piggyback on WiFi feeds as and it's free as long as you stay within a certain zone (like 5 miles from your house). The entire city of Jersey City, NJ is one giant WiFi hotspot!
Originally posted by bjarneorn
Originally posted by mastahunta
conservative ideas are the ones that make sure the corporation and the bankers
are eternally free, thanks to hiding behind the free market, marketing plan
Wanna challenge the banks today? You are deemed a socialist. Guess who calls the
person a socialist? Guess who wants to give the banks more freedom and more power?
AMEN
Ignorant crap ...
I suggest you go and visit China ... it's a communist country. To get a driver license, you need a bank account ... and if you run over a red light, it's automatically drawn from your bank account. If you run over and kill someone ... you have to pay money. If somebody hijacks your child and sells it as slave labour, you'll have to bring a receipt to get compensation. Maybe they'll give you a "dime", literally.
If this is the world you want ... get the hell out of the western world and move your family to China.
Originally posted by kenochs
Dear OP. At least have the decency and honestly not to take the President out of context.
The President was speaking only about the disproven concept of 'trickle down economics.' Not to Free markets and individualism. Dishonesty doesn't work on ATS.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Jersey City's WiFi is provided for free by Google and is of no charge or additional surcharge to the end user which was amongst the group that launched the third type of WiFi along with Private (home) - Corporate (company owned WiFi) and that is Public (Govt provided)!
As long as your account is verifiable the access is free!
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMunicipal wireless network (Municipal Wi-Fi, Muni Wi-Fi or Muni-Fi)
is the concept of turning an entire city into a Wireless Access Zone (WAZ), with the ultimate goal of making wireless access to the Internet a universal service. This is usually done by providing municipal broadband via Wi-Fi to large parts or all of a municipal area by deploying a wireless mesh network. The typical deployment design uses hundreds of routers deployed outdoors, often on utility poles. The operator of the network acts as a wireless internet service provider.
Such networks go far beyond the existing piggybacking opportunities available near public libraries and some coffee shops. The basic premise of carpeting an area with wireless service in urban centers is that it is more economical to the community to provide the service as a utility rather than to have individual households and businesses pay private firms for such a service. Such networks are viewed as capable of enhancing city management and public safety, especially when used directly by city employees out in the field. They can also be viewed as a social service to those who cannot afford private high-speed services such as DSL. When the network service is free and a small number of clients consume a majority of the available capacity, operating and regulating the network might prove difficult.[1][2]
The US Federal Trade Commission has expressed some concerns about such private/public partnerships as trending towards a franchise monopoly.[3]
Technology continues to advance. In 2007, companies with existing cell sites offered competing paid high-speed wireless services where the laptop owner purchased a PC card or adapter which uses communications based on EV-DO cellular data receivers or WiMAX rather than 802.11b/g. High-end laptops in 2007 featured built-in support for these newer protocols. WiMAX is designed to implement a metropolitan area network (MAN) while 802.11 is designed to implement a wireless local area network (LAN).
2010 ushers in the potential for what is being called “super WiFi” or "white spots.” In September 2010, the FCC announced that radio spectrum formerly only available to television stations would be opened for public use, carrying with it the potential for increased WiFi range and decreases in cost, and potentially making it easier to offer rural areas broadband Internet access.[4][5][6]
Usually, a private firm works closely with local government to construct such a network and operate it. Financing is usually shared by both the private firm and the municipal government. Once operational, the service may be free, supported by advertising, provided for a monthly charge per user or some combination.
a few sectors of a city to demonstrate competence before making the larger investment of attempting full coverage of a city.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Jersey City's WiFi is provided for free by Google and is of no charge or additional surcharge to the end user which was amongst the group that launched the third type of WiFi along with Private (home) - Corporate (company owned WiFi) and that is Public (Govt provided)!
As long as your account is verifiable the access is free!
edit on 8-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Last time I checked, Google is still a privately owned corporation, so even if they are providing a service free to someone, they still paid for it and not the State. If they have a deal with the city of New Jersey then great. Did the taxpayers pay for this service to be used by the State? If not, then it is a donation made by a private corporation.
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Theodore Roosevelt disagreed. He was the Republican son of a wealthy family. He praised what the titans of industry had done to create jobs and grow the economy. He believed then what we know is true today, that the free market is the greatest force for economic progress in human history. It’s led to a prosperity and a standard of living unmatched by the rest of the world.
And in 1910, Teddy Roosevelt came here to Osawatomie and he laid out his vision for what he called a New Nationalism. “Our country,” he said, “…means nothing unless it means the triumph of a real democracy…of an economic system under which each man shall be guaranteed the opportunity to show the best that there is in him.”
Now, for this, Roosevelt was called a radical. He was called a socialist -- even a communist. But today, we are a richer nation and a stronger democracy because of what he fought for in his last campaign: an eight-hour work day and a minimum wage for women -- (applause) -- insurance for the unemployed and for the elderly, and those with disabilities; political reform and a progressive income tax. (Applause.)
Now, just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, there is a certain crowd in Washington who, for the last few decades, have said, let’s respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. “The market will take care of everything,” they tell us.
If we just cut more regulations and cut more taxes -- especially for the wealthy -- our economy will grow stronger. Sure, they say, there will be winners and losers. But if the winners do really well, then jobs and prosperity will eventually trickle down to everybody else. And, they argue, even if prosperity doesn’t trickle down, well, that’s the price of liberty.
Now, it’s a simple theory. And we have to admit, it’s one that speaks to our rugged individualism and our healthy skepticism of too much government. That’s in America’s DNA. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. But here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible postwar booms of the ‘50s and ‘60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade. I mean, understand, it’s not as if we haven’t tried this theory.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
The deal in q is with the City Of Jersey City directly.
www.nj.com...
Comcast is also providing hotspots which reclassifies it as public as a Comcast or a Google's Corporate WiFi only applies to their offices and all property they own.
If you are using a Starbucks WiFi that only is connectable while inside the spot and if you are outside and do not have an independent signal nor are on your cities WiFi you can't get a signal as the signal only goes to like 20 or so feet from the box inside the store and does not extend to a sidewalk or a parking lot.edit on 8-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Algernonsmouse
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
I guess the roads really tripped you up because it made you vomit nonsense about internet access in response. Try the roads first. The founding fathers liked those socialst ass roads that got me to where my computer is today.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
The deal in q is with the City Of Jersey City directly.
www.nj.com...
Comcast is also providing hotspots which reclassifies it as public as a Comcast or a Google's Corporate WiFi only applies to their offices and all property they own.
If you are using a Starbucks WiFi that only is connectable while inside the spot and if you are outside and do not have an independent signal nor are on your cities WiFi you can't get a signal as the signal only goes to like 20 or so feet from the box inside the store and does not extend to a sidewalk or a parking lot.edit on 8-12-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Then likely it is the real paying customers who pick up the tab for these services. No wonder they have been attaching more and more fees and taxes for these services. But you see, someone still has to pay the price don't they, and don't you and your friend feel so proud to be people who take advantage of it?
Unintended externalities are possible as a result of local governments providing Internet service to their constituents. A private service provider could choose to offer limited or no service to a region if that region’s largest city opted to provide free Internet service, thus eliminating the potential customer base. This could prevent other municipalities in that region from benefiting from the services of the private provider. The smaller municipalities would at the same time not benefit from the free service provided by the larger city. Overuse could be another issue. If usage of the publicly provided network became heavier than existing private options network overload issues could arise, forcing the municipality to invest more heavily, thus spending more revenue, on infrastructure to maintain the existing level of service. This issue could be compounded if private providers begin exiting a market as mentioned above.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Indigo5
Don't count your chickens before they hatch buddy. I have just heard word that Sensenbrenner has come out of a courtroom whereby the AG Holder is going to have his feet held to the fire on his dirty dealings and it is an impeachable offense what he did.
Happy Holidays buddy!