Sorry babe, but you do have a penis....... [WTB]

I bet you any money she was abused herself and since there was an incident before it made her see what she wanted to see. She wanted to feel better about herself so in her mind you might be an abuser so she got all involved.Most women who have weight problems have some sort of issue.Today society has turned people paranoid and therefore policemen and ready at a drop of a hat to rat people out. No one stands back and actually looks and observes things for what they are, they are in too much of a hurry. I have a buddy high up in the american navy who adopted some kids who were hawaiin. One girl the oldest was from an abusive family.Well being a military family they moved to wiscousin and the oldest didnt like it and was caught in a chatroom on the computer with men from hawaii and was told not to do it again. She said he abused her and the SHTF he lost his career and ended up divorced. He didnt do it but just the allegation he lost everything.

Always makes me think of this radio bit.
It's been animated for your pleasure.

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I would have stayed there with your camera taking pics. Leaving is just what that woman wanted to see you do... Some people are just out to spoil another persons day.

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Exactly! And this what i call bad karma for the male gender because most males build themeselves on the destructive impact they have on what surrounds them. Whether it is Nature or nuture, the ego of most males feeds on the fear of others.

Mate, that's terrible.

I'm a Perthite too. And I get the same stares from mums who think it's weird that I should be looking after my 6 year old son. I do shift work so I'm home quite often during the day and me and the little fella do heaps together.

In this day and age when they decry the fact that dads don't do enough with their kids, the stares I get from clowns astounds me. I've had it happen at Scarborough a couple of times. Luckily I'm pretty good at talking to people and I just beat em in a conversation. It's even worse when I take him for his swimming lessons at Beatty Park.

I do school roster at his school too. The amount of kids who absolutely love it because a dad is doing roster is a great feeling. But even there I have to be careful. I can see that a lot of the kids don't get enough "dad time" at school, they want to sit next to me, hold my hand, chat with me, show me what they're doing... luckily the teachers know me well and know I would never do anything remotely inappropriate with the kids, but I still have to be careful about what I do. The world has me second guessing myself about letting innocent little kids have fun!!! That's seriously WTF material.

I'm not one for telling people to mind their own business because I think that's a big problem in society - people not speaking up when they see something wrong so the "bad" person gets away with it - but, I encourage people to have more than a cursory glance at a situation before interjecting.

Originally posted by BrokenCircles
reply to post by 1littlewolf

 

Much of our society still remains conditioned to believe that:

[color=FF7B61]Long Hair

[color=FF7B61]Beard

[color=FF7B61]Tattoos
[color=FF7B61]= Bad Guy

&

[color=7AFF7A]Well Groomed

[color=7AFF7A]Clean Shaven

[color=7AFF7A]Suit & Tie
[color=7AFF7A]= Good Guy

9 times out of 10, it's the guy in the suit that you should keep your eye on.

Exactly! You know the saying, "the suit makes the man"? The amount of sales people I deal with for work, whom all wear expensive suits and at times seem to have no brains whatsoever, make me think the saying should be "the suit hides the moron".

Disclaimer: I am a troll at the moment! Alert this post asap and too you all btw!

Explanation: Did the OP have a reasonable expectation to ANY PRIVACY on a PUBLIC beach!

Personal Disclosure: No BLOODY way ... come on Australia ... be FAIR DINKUM!

You want that level of privacy ... go buy your own PRIVATE beach!

Cheers for slgging off fellow Aussies WHO CARED!

This is what is WRONG with the world ... and if it is infecting Australia at this level I'd rather you lot put me down for being the TERRIBLE MONSTER THAT CARES before I go troppo in this hot house of BS!

This is the normal sized mad emoticon! ...

And this is how mad OL is right NOW!



You selfish ungratefull ...





2nd Disclaimer: Dear The above post IS a [WTB] post OK! Now to be reasonable, stop trolling and show the REAL beef ...

Its in HERE! ...



Give it to me straight ... face to face ... are you really disapearing ... just another dying race!

Where the BLOODY HELL ARE YOU TRUE BLUE!

OL is asking YOU!

I feel for you mate!

The same thing is happening in New Zealand too. The following is just one good example of the MADNESS that our fine feminist and liberal brigade have brought this fine country to (Happened Sept 2010):

Pervert caught taking photos of young girls in short skirts. That was the view of some women in an item covered by TV3's 'Campbell Live' last night. However, another possible angle to the story was this: Father harassed for taking innocent photos of his daughter playing netball.
And that from our perspective was all it was, a loving father taking a couple of photos of his 9 year-old daughter during a netball game.

Business consultant Kendall Langston was at the Action Indoor Sports Stadiums in Christchurch watching his daughter Caetana play a game of netball. Like any parent might, he took a photo of her playing... well, two actually. A parent of one of the girls on the opposing team approached and challenged Langston, telling him it was illegal to take photos and demanded that he delete them. Suspecting that the woman had misjudged his motives, he explained he was merely taking photos of his daughter playing and he refused to delete them. The woman was still not happy, so Langston and his daughter left. The woman then called the police, followed them to their car, wrote down the registration and blocked his departure. When the police arrived, probably diverted away from a violent assault, rape or home invasion, they suggested he crop one of the photos so only his daughter could be seen. Rightly frustrated he then deleted them both, and he went home very annoyed, his daughter went home upset, the narrow-minded vigilante went away triumphant and the police returned, one would hope, to more serious complaints.

What is society coming to when a father — or anybody — can't take photos of kids playing sport? Or any public activity? What was this stupid woman thinking — well not much obviously — when she focused her wrath on such an innocent event? She reminds us of that certain brand of feminist who screams such things as 'All men are rapists'. But this is no more true than men claiming that 'All women are cheating whores'. Seemingly this woman and her supporters believe that men only take their daughters to sports activities so that they can collect revealing photographs of scantly clad young girls. What for? Well, no doubt to trade them on the Internet and/or to use them to satisfy their own immoral sexual desires. We find this view insulting and the height of ignorance and stupidity.

Why has management in some of these public places even introduced bans on photography? Are their boards made up of deluded women like the complainant, obsessed by silly myths of child pornography rings, Satanic rituals, and paedophiles on every street corner? To our knowledge paedophiles don't need to go to netball games to catch a fleeting glimpse of a young girl's knickers. They can find thousands of more intimate images and videos on the Internet, in TV lingerie ads and in glossy advertisements received free in the mail of young girls just in underwear, without the inconvenience of a netball skirt. So if paedophiles really are going to netball games, they're going for the purpose of seeing real girls in the flesh, not in photos, so banning cameras has achieved nothing. They're going to these games to get closer to these girls, to strike up a relationship or to follow them home. They're not going just to photograph them with clothes on. But of course paedophiles are like tigers, dangerous, but nevertheless quite rare and you are unlikely to ever come across one. Banning photography because of an unrealistic fear of paedophiles only punishes ordinary parents and citizens and does nothing to expose the rare paedophile that is elsewhere, taking confession from your child or chatting to them outside in the carpark while they're waiting for a ride home.

Teachers and parents complain that there are few male teachers these days, and as Kendall Langston noted, society wants fathers to be involved in the lives of their daughters, taking them to sports (or dance or skepticism for kids classes or whatever). But now we have these ignorant morons that imply that fathers and males in general that would want to watch kids play sport are only there because they are sexual perverts, there to catch a glimpse of prepubescent flesh and with luck, get a photo of it. These people disgust us, with their warped, obscene and false view of adult/child relationships and their resultant hatred and distrust of all males. They are making the world a darker place and it's worrying that so many people in authority — teachers, police, sports bodies, social workers, counsellors etc — are acting on their groundless suspicions and treating camera-wielding parents as potential sexual perverts.

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Had a deputy school principle
(rock spider) who was responsible for photography at the swimming and athletics carnivals. A decade ago, karma finally found him out and he was dealt with (after thirty years of getting away with it), albeit lightly, due to the sympathisers our justice system is riddled with. It is not some you might see as a little bit different you should be wary of, but those around you, who are trusted and looked up to. Unfortunately his sort of behaviour has resulted in our friend here being persecuted.

Off topic lets see if anyone can translate our Aussie ryhming slang. G'Day china plate, we should catch up at the rubbidy dub for a couple of pigs ears, then hit the frog and toad grab a dogs eye with dead horse, avoid the polly waffle and get home to the hugs and kisses.

Originally posted by Exv8densez
reply to post by MaMaa

 

...most males build themeselves on the destructive impact they have on what surrounds them. Whether it is Nature or nuture, the ego of most males feeds on the fear of others.

On the contrary, men's egos are based on positive behaviour such as creating/fixing things, providing for his family and protecting his wife, children and friends.

You on the other hand appear to feed your ego with aggressive feminist rants against men.

It isn't healthy to project your internal psychological issues as an external hatred for men.

Have you considered talking through your issues with a mental health professional?

I'm betting that "middle aged woman" spends her evenings watching "Twilight" to see the young boys with their shirts off. But there's nothing weird about that, right? She'd scream blue murder if she caught her husband watching teen bikini programs, though. I wonder if she'd leave her kids alone with her priest...

Great post OP. Being a father is a great gig. Unfortunately society has painted 'Dad' to be the bad guy, even where he clearly isn't.

I'm so glad you held your ground. You're my hero of the day.

Originally posted by TinkerHaus
The ER doc checked him thoroughly for signs of abuse. I'm kind of "fringe" looking too, so I deal with this alot. The bump on his head turned out to be just that, a bump on his head - and of course he has no other bruises or scars because, well, I love my kids and I'm not a violent person. At first I was really offended, but after thinking on it for a few minutes I guess it is in the best interest of kids everywhere.

No, not really. We wouldn't want parents to feel discouraged from taking their children to the hospital on the chance a police state mentality will cause them to be taken away from them. Rather, the doctor should first do his job and then worry about abuse after that is done. And if you tell him he does not have permission to check in other areas, then he can't violate your rights as a parent and check any way without a search warrant issued by a judge.

This kind of discrimination against caring, family orientated men in countries of "sexual equality" really gets me down... maybe its Karma for our oppression of women for so long?

I do have 3 relevant experiences to add which show there still needs to be at least one rebounding "Twang" back to a fully equal society of both sexes or civilsation will suffer:

1) SITUATION: I have 3 children and was married for 13 years. When the children were 11, 10 and 4, I was a fast track UK IT consultant in a global company and building a secure, comfortable future for the family.

EVENT: My father (a Sufi) had a terminal brain tumour, work was demanding, we just upgraded house... and my wife chose to pursue a romantic flight with a karate instructor, abandoning the children.

REACTION: I chose to single parent my kids alongside work (with the help of a nanny and after school care).

RESULT:
For the Kids: They have grown to responsible adults who don't smoke, do drugs or get in trouble... BUT they have chosen as adults to live closer to mum than me??? (the need for mother's bond is even stronger when a child has been rejected!).
For me: burnt out mid 40s, heart attack and aneurism late 40s, and still sleeping 3 hours a night as fallout from "trying to do it all". Oh, and no maintenance received from the mother!

2) SITUATION: Close friends of mine ran a childcare/kindergarten and had my kids after school. The owner used to be a primary school teacher and her husband was a well-respected secondary school english/drama teacher.
EVENT: a 6yr old girl at the kindergarten accused husband of abuse and police were called in.
REACTION: My children, since attending their chilcare, were interviewed by police and I had to demand to be present. The small town rumour mill demonised the accused and his standing and professional career were irretrievably truncated.
RESULT: Months later, the accusing girl admitted she wanted to get him back for being told off. No charges were raised, however, the accused and his family had to move town, the kindergarten (once highly regarded) had to relocate. My decade long friendship was broken because I sat on the fence until charges were dismissed.

3) MOST WORRYING SITUATION FOR FUTURE: I was a school governor at my childrens primary school and part of the teacher recruitment committee.
EVENT: We had to select a new teacher but county guidance said that any male teacher could not be left alone in a primary class without a woman present!!
REACTION: The second best, female candidate, got the job because we could not afford to always have a second person in class while a male teacher taught!
RESULT: Apart from the obvious, hundreds of children went through primary school with no male role model around. This would be particularly damaging for children with no father living at home either. Multiply this up to the number of primary schools in the county following the guidance... and again to perhaps 40% of UK counties... and we have engineered a generation of children with less respect for society's boundaries.

reply to post by 1littlewolf


Sorry to hear that happened.

But with what's going on in the media right now concerning Jerry Sandusky and Bernie Fine, people have child abuse on their minds and are angry.

I don't blame them for what they did, but once you made it known they were YOUR children you should have received plenty of apologies from your accusers. I guess some people are too proud to admit when they made a mistake.

But sorry, what a frustrating situation to be put in. I would've lost it.

glad you handled it well by just walking away.

Next time, tell the walrus, that her being in a bathing suite has to be breaking some kind of law. And that she should really cover up

hehe im bad, jk though, i shouldn't make fun of the morbidly obese.

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reply to post by 1littlewolf


I understand your feelings, bro. I try to help a child or play with them and then I get stares or someone in my face saying that I'm a threat when I didn't even cause any kind of threat to begin with.

I just want to put a bullet inside the person's head who even dared to make my life a living hell or a perversion of life when I try to do some good and have a good time with my family.

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sorry dude, but this is what America WANTS!
Why do you think the news in this country is the way it is?
They want EVERYONE to think that their next door neighbor is a serial killer and youre a rapist on the beach... why? SO that we wont communicate, see how alike EVERYONE is. They want us to trust that they are keeping us safe, when the truth is, there's really not that much out there that can or would harm us.
They want you to go to the mall and not talk to anyone, just buy and get back to your house, your haven of security from which they can stream feed you their interpretations of the "real world," instead of going out and discovering it for yourselves.

in any case, you handled that better than me.

reply to post by 1littlewolf
The fact is, we have a lot..and I do mean A LOT of disgusting human beings walking the planet right now. Not to get off subject but I believe all the souls that have ever incarnated as human beings are alive on the planet right now for some kind of judgement that is about to take place. Seriously, everyone who has ever been, is here right now and some kind of climatic event is going to take place that is going to result in the best of the best going forward into the next evolution or higher frequency or dimension and the crud is going to fall back and remain trapped to do what I have no idea. This is both a theory but much more a gut feeling when I focus and refocus on what is going on in the world and our solar system. Every possible evil and sickness a human being is capable of is being allowed to manifest and what and who people really are is being coaxed to reveal itself in order for this "Judgement" to take place.

So, what I want to say pertaining to your story and experience with the Walrus, don't sweat it, be true to who and what you are and everything will work itself out; we will not be plagued with all this crud for much longer. As for the "Crud" I speak of, you know who you are and while I have no idea what you can do about it, it is yours to do or not do and not my concern.

So you are innocent,

You were then perceived by strangers as a person up to no good

Those people trusted their subjective judgment, treating their assumptions as the ultimate truth (which happens too often), thereby taking action against you as if the verdict was already out

Perhaps it wouldn't have been such a bad idea to continue taking pictures of your kids

I'm not sure how a Pedo would act in your predicament but because you stopped taking photos, it could've seemed like you were complying to the woman's warning, thus making her feel righteous & putting you in the opposite position, a Pedo that got caught of wrong doing, so now he's trying to lay low by trying to fit into the crowd by working on his tan.

Perhaps it wouldn't have been such a bad idea to continue taking pictures of your kids.

There were many ways to play your cards, but you dealt with the situation just fine

On a different day it is possible that her reaction to act on impulse could've actually hindered the actions of an actual pedo. Maybe she came across some actual pedo's on that beach before and she just so happened to still be that mindset, we don't know,

But they should've at least shown some integrity by apologizing for treating you like a confirmed criminal from square one based only on their speculation

I will assume a ridiculous assumption for the sake of assuming. Those people that confronted you probably didn't bother to reflect on their miscalculations, focusing their attention instead on anything they didn't like about you as a means to distract themselves from coming face to face with their own mistakes. This is probably not the case. I hope it isn't.

Guys I could not be more blown away by the response that this thread has received. In my short time on ATS few of my threads go over a page or ever receive more than a few stars. Most of them are a bit left field though.

A few things I will say. The womans initial reaction was probably not from the tattoos. Perth is a city driven by mining and as such nearly every 2nd or 3rd person sports a few. I'm originally form somewhere that having tattoos isn't nearly so common so that's why I initially assumed her reaction was due to me having them. Thinking back I guessing she did have some negative experience in her past and me sneering back at her probably didn't help the situation. We do all have our dramas and it is hard to break out of a the problems that they cause us later in life. I am not making excuses for her however, she obviously behaved very poorly even when it was obvious there was no issue, and i have no doubt karma will find her in the end.

The main reason I left the beach was that if I had stayed any longer I think I would have smashed someones face in. And the issues that would have caused me and the kids later that day would have simply not been worth it. The main reason I stopped taking further pictures was threefold. firstly I did not want to deal with any further negativity. Probably not the right response and obviously it didn't work anyway. But all I really wanted was a quiet day at the beach and really couldn't be bothered making a stand at that time. 2ndly the kids had moved that far down the beach the photos by then would have been crap and I would have probably included other kids in them as well, and Lord only knows haw that one would have panned out. 3rdly the camera battery was more or less flat by then.

In short it was a hard one. Obviously you must be vigilant, but everyone involved cold have handled thins a little better, even myself. I did not for a moment 'keep my cool', and it was all I could do do contain myself. But even if just one of us had acted slightly more level headed, I seriously doubt it would have turned out the way it did.