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Originally posted by MaMaa
Honestly I wouldn't have given two thoughts about some dad on the beach with his kids. Some people just go looking for trouble or assume that people are bad and just waiting to do something. This lady and I use that term loosely, obviously had some pretty deep dysfunctional beliefs if that was her first thought.
However, I'd like to offer up a different perspective on why women inherently do not trust men. From a very young age we are taught to watch our surroundings because some man might kidnap you and or rape you. You are taught to travel in groups to avoid such things. "You and we" meaning young girls in general. We see other girls/women abused by men, you live with knowing there are things like abused women's shelters and the like because men abuse women. Even in the bible that we grow up being taught, you read about men who treat women badly, abuse them, sell them, ect.. These are not even always a spoken thing, although often it is, but it is this background knowledge that all girls grow up with. Even the more innocent things like making a joke about dad and the reactions to the first boyfriends. Why? Because boys want sex, boys could hurt your little girl, ect.. You don't think that young girls hear and understand these things even when they are not spoken directly to her? We do and it forms an underlying opinion of males in general. It isn't just news, it is people, it is parents, it is other kids, it is society as a whole that create these notions. And lets face it, it isn't all untrue either.
I am 36 and generally speaking do not trust most men. Ironically,me of all people had four boys and am married. I live with 5 males! LOL I am learning much along the way and hopefully raising my own boys to not be the idea that a lot of girls have in their heads of what boys/men are. This is not something that women are just being intentionally awful and sexist towards men and their intentions. These are deep rooted ideas taught to girls from a very young age.
Originally posted by ollncasino
On the contrary, men's egos are based on positive behaviour such as creating/fixing things, providing for his family and protecting his wife, children and friends. You on the other hand appear to feed your ego with aggressive feminist rants against men. It isn't healthy to project your internal psychological issues as an external hatred for men. Have you considered talking through your issues with a mental health professional?
I hope your not referring to me? That was a reply to one of my posts, not me. I absolutely agree that a lot of men's ego is based in a positive behavior and have basically said as much in a few of my posts. We all have egos however, but I promise you I am far from aggressive or a feminist. I have no hate towards men, I'm rather partial to them actually. I have four boys and am happily married.
Anywho, I'm just hoping your post is not directed at me because I am none of those things you speak of.
Originally posted by celticdog
Most women who have weight problems have some sort of issue.
Originally posted by TheCounselor
Really well written story, you have a gift with words.
In the 70's, it wasn't like that, not from any accounts I recall.
My family had taken in a Czech dissident who loved to swim.
Every day, with our safety pin passes hooked onto our swimsuits, a pack of at least five kids of mixed genders would go with Jerry to the pool. There was never an incident or question.
He was a camera nut, too. So pictures were taken. There was never a problem.
I don't know when it got so bad for men to take their own kids to the beach, but I'm sure it's more of an issue with ugly fat women than anything else. She seemed to be the match that started the fire.
Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by 1littlewolf
You relay an important point, and a yardstick of [some] of our societal "norms"; we are quick to attach our own suspicions to people, aren't we? We are quick to judge, and to think that we have the right to do so. That's something I guard myself against -- judgement. I just don't have the right.
Someone with a little intellect would've had the stones to walk up to you and inquire, rather than accuse. I have to confess that I fell into this same pattern once. I was meeting friends of mine at the local school..... they were picking up their kids and we were all going to pile into my van and meet my darlin' at a local beach for a picnic. There was a man I didn't recognize, standing at the chain-link, watching the kids. I live in a small place, and it's somewhat unusual to not at least have visual recognition of people.
I walked up to him and asked him if there was something I could help him with. He looked at me, shook his head. I stood there. He looked at me again and said, "You don't have to worry. I'm not a perv. I'm from ________, and I'll be teaching here next week." I introduced myself, and we talked for a bit. he'd walked from his house to the school and was getting a feel for the property. I felt like a turd. He's an excellent teacher, so I hear.