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Looking to build a zero point energy device, need help.

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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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I commend your intentions, though I find them misguided. I would suggest that you focus your energy on improving the conditions of your native country. Perhaps a city wide trash management system that is cheap and easy to implement. Potentially a subterranean waste disposable system utilizing waste receptacles as chutes that empty into sewage pipes. Couple that with a seal which opens one way to prevent gas leakage, and an improved large to small waste filtration system and you've got an idea that will introduce cleanliness to that Indian city. Couple that with perhaps plastic toilets and A cheaper anti bacterial soap, and you've got a city with less disease, improved conditions, which would inspire more local economic growth.

My point is start with what you know: health. You are way in over your head when it comes to physics, let alone quantum energy use. Also, whatever you do, do it in the private sector as any government will turn anything you develop into a weapon.




posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 01:06 AM
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Free energy is all around us. The reason why we pay...is because...well...what money is there in making products that are FREE? That's not GOOD business. hahahahah.

Anyhoot. Here's what you can do to power some l.e.d.'s. You drive 2 poles in the ground, 1. 4' long the other 6' long, and tah-dah...free power.


For something more complicated...you can build a wind-mill...attach some copper wiring, a few magnets...run line to charge the car batteries, and a car alternator. Then, you have these things called generators...but, you're gonna need gas. Everything has a catch. Hey, here's an idea...run some copper wire, around the wheel of a stationary bike, attach a few magnets, and get someone to pedal, real FAST! hahahah

Go to meta-cafe...and search for the videos or Yahoo it. It's really NOT that complicated.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by Perfectmatthew

Originally posted by asen_y2k

Originally posted by jeichelberg
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Free energy is energy out of nothing, like a motor that keeps spinning and spinning and spinning without any external force like wind water or sun.


And this describes your dilemma as there is no such thing as perpetual motion.


Well
being a member of ATS for 4 years made me believe that there is such a device. Ok not energy out of nothing but energy that can be pulled out of the quantum flux, that research has demonstrated as possible. They made photons come into spontaneous existence. Photon=energy, so I think its possible and I need ATS's help in making a device which works. I am not a inventor so I need an already built device to demonstrate it to companies which have not crossed roads with such a device to prove it exists and give credit where it is due. What they do with such a device is their wish, but i have no intention of making a penny out of its feilding.


Contrary to popular belief, such a device does exist.


Yeah, its called solar panel, turns photons into energy.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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I hear people state this(perpetual motion doesn't exist) all the time. If this is fact true, could you please explain to me why I can pick up a rock from any planet (including ours) and even if it is 5 billion years old it still has protons and neutrons still actively circling in every atom? Or from at least my understanding of physic, even in the standard or newtonian model of physics that theoretically space is infinite, if I flashed a beam of light it would travel infinitely unless something obstructed it correct?
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:41 AM
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The whole universe is in perpetual motion, however we don't have the technology to tap into that energy. The OP will be very disappointed if he ever tries to build a free energy device from plans on the internet or youtube or whatever. They don't work. Not one of them has ever worked. They're a hoax.

And let me ask the OP a question. You want to make a device from plans on the internet and give it away to governments and companies? They don't have internet access? Why not just send them a link? If you believe the devices work and the plans are freely available, then what you're attempting to do has already been done - the working machine is there already, is it not?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
The OP will be very disappointed if he ever tries to build a free energy device from plans on the internet or youtube or whatever. They don't work. Not one of them has ever worked. They're a hoax.


How can you know for certain that none of them work?

Have you built and tested every single one of them yourself?

Just try building it anyway, even if you don't think it will work. That's the whole point.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by cupocoffee
Just try building it anyway, even if you don't think it will work. That's the whole point.


Really? You think that's sensible behavior? What will you be building yourself today?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
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The whole universe is in perpetual motion, however we don't have the technology to tap into that energy. The OP will be very disappointed if he ever tries to build a free energy device from plans on the internet or youtube or whatever. They don't work. Not one of them has ever worked. They're a hoax.

And let me ask the OP a question. You want to make a device from plans on the internet and give it away to governments and companies? They don't have internet access? Why not just send them a link? If you believe the devices work and the plans are freely available, then what you're attempting to do has already been done - the working machine is there already, is it not?


Most of the people who have built it, built their own designed device, could have been a hoax and they wanted to promote it for financial reasons, but i want to build someone elses design and as i have no interest in benefitting from it financially, if the device does not work i will scrap it and admit it does not work.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe

Really? You think that's sensible behavior?


Yes! How is anyone here ever supposed to build a real overunity device if no one ever tries?

Searching on "Bedini replication" in Youtube brings up over 700 pages of results. Plus all the other people claiming successful replications all over the web. That's more than enough evidence to go on, IMHO.




What will you be building yourself today?


Well, if I were in charge, I wouldn't do the building myself - since I'm just a janitor.

I'd get a little team of three or four Electrical Engineers to do it. For credibility.

Oh and I'd make them state their real name and credentials for the camera too, and film the entire process in real time, with multiple cameramen. That way, if the device does work, I'd have the video footage as proof, and the engineers wouldn't be able to chicken out and run away!



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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Just found this, its the prototype i have been trying to find for ages. I'm sure this guy is dead by now as this video seems quite old. maybe you can pick up where he left off?? ill shall look into it more myself when i have time


www.youtube.com...



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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sounds like an awesome idea! i would love to see pics and results if possible
as to posting images, while typing your comment for a thread, above the box u type in is the font size and color editor and right under that are a bunch of things that let u add videos or images or links and bs.

& Binder, Thanks for saying "great way of thinking" i get bombarded with negativity for thinking outside the box a lil too much over here, anything i think of is hippie fantasy nonsense to these people EVEN IF I HAVE SCIENCE TO BACK IT UP! like my compost bin. i war with my dam mom to keep it composting LOL
u got some nice ideas 2, we need to hook up our neighborhoods with this! we must allow our self's the chance to change our homes!

There should be a whole sub category called (survival / technology )



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Few devices look very promising, was hoping someone over here has some knoledge of engineering who could help me out with some things.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Cant really help you with the engineering side as my im not very knowledgeable in that area. Maybe try contacting some specialist with your intention?

I think the Indian Vimana's have a good concept to go off. It appears to have 2 wheels of magnets opposite each other creating a never ending spinning motion once jump started.
If you get a machinist to create to cylinder blocks on a rod, with each block having a weight placed on it this will create spin. attaching magnets somehow would create force, just not sure how to harness it :/ and just have a battery and starter motor off a motor bike to get it running.

Links to Indian Vimana's
Thier poor quality but the best i could find...

www.crystalinks.com...
2.bp.blogspot.com...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
ufopress.files.wordpress.com...
2.bp.blogspot.com...
www.world-mysteries.com...



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Cant really help you with the engineering side as my im not very knowledgeable in that area. Maybe try contacting some specialist with your intention?

I think the Indian Vimana's have a good concept to go off. It appears to have 2 wheels of magnets opposite each other creating a never ending spinning motion once jump started.
If you get a machinist to create to cylinder blocks on a rod, with each block having a weight placed on it this will create spin. attaching magnets somehow would create force, just not sure how to harness it :/ and just have a battery and starter motor off a motor bike to get it running.

Links to Indian Vimana's
Thier poor quality but the best i could find...

www.crystalinks.com...
2.bp.blogspot.com...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
ufopress.files.wordpress.com...
2.bp.blogspot.com...
www.world-mysteries.com...



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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hopefully this images comes through..... now... take the blinders of your eyes and let me reduce your "noise level" This works exactly as I say it will... but you have to figure out how I did it... Remember to share it in the same way I gave it to you... LOL,, I will notice if all of a sudden someone claims to have invented a wonderful gizmo... remarkably similar to this... It is a New age of exploration, Free energy, and Free exchange of Ideas

For now, forget about finding some exotic form of energy... We all can do this right now.. Take it.. its yours... teach others how to build it, and wire it and run your homes and communities with it... Remember to be flexible in your design.. it can vary tremendously.. with variations on shapes of tubes.. If you made it like a big Doughnut.. it could surround a big area like a perimeter or fence.. .. hide the fans or show them... it doesn't matter... numbers of windmills verses the fans in between them that push the air... for me, it seams that I loose the push of the air after 20 fans in sequence and Have tried to device a doughnut shape that the fans are in. this makes the air stay confined and helps push the primary fan

I am posting this image here to get the brain juices going and some of you may even come up with better ideas than I..

... the only way I can figure out how to post an image is through facebook... so I am going to make a page not linked to my name or anything with the image on there.. it will stay on for about a week or a few day's before i delete the account.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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But the whole point of this thread is to try building it anyway, in spite of all the people telling you it won't work Electrical engineers don't have any concept of "Radiant Energy" in their models....

I guess I agree, however the spinning magnets, charging batteries that store alternator current model has been beaten to death. It's a lossy contraption that if worked, would have to be considered a miracle.

The spinning of mercury models seemed to be a cool approach. Some researchers claim that there is an anti-gravity effect, but do not know how it really works. As yet, too much energy in for what comes out, and in this case it would be lifting a heavy object, but that could be turned into a machine that creates power by scavenging the energy of the object once it is allowed to free fall due to earth's gravity. Again, a PMM... but is it really? , since the process of how it really works is not understood.

I do believe that there will be a breakthrough, but it won't be by creating energy from nothing. It will more likely be something able to process an abundant element like hydrogen, oxygen or carbon and figure out a way to produce electrical current or direct heat from them without expending more to process it.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 03:12 AM
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thanks... i cant wait for my financial aid school money crap to get here! thats all im waiting on



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by charlyv

I guess I agree, however the spinning magnets, charging batteries that store alternator current model has been beaten to death. It's a lossy contraption that if worked, would have to be considered a miracle.


I wouldn't say that. It's never been given a fair chance on here.

Like I said, 700+ pages of results on Youtube alone. But ATS members have never conducted a proper experiment or investigated it in an organized and unbiased way...

I think the technology does work, but people don't really want something that just charges a lot of batteries; they want something that generates useable power directly.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by cupocoffee

Originally posted by charlyv

I guess I agree, however the spinning magnets, charging batteries that store alternator current model has been beaten to death. It's a lossy contraption that if worked, would have to be considered a miracle.


I wouldn't say that. It's never been given a fair chance on here.

Like I said, 700+ pages of results on Youtube alone. But ATS members have never conducted a proper experiment or investigated it in an organized and unbiased way...

I think the technology does work, but people don't really want something that just charges a lot of batteries; they want something that generates useable power directly.


Ok then, sounds fair. Let an ATS member that has perhaps worked on some of these gadgets chime in and see what they have for results.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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There are none, that's the problem.

There were one or two members who tried the "School Girl Motor" experiment, that's about it.

If there are other members who have first-hand experience with overunity devices, they're keeping awfully quiet about it.......



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